Will Philly McMahon be sighted for his cowardly kick....?

velo (Mayo) - Posts: 33 - 02/09/2013 10:02:14    1472762

The eye gouging incident has to be looked at by video - still photos don't tell the whole story.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6484 - 02/09/2013 10:06:45    1472767

Spot on jimbo.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 02/09/2013 10:08:53    1472770

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 8060

1472717 Yeah, but is he being cynical, because that seems to generate more column inches than cowardly physical assaults of this nature, discuss?

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Yes eye gouging of a Kerry player. Now where have we seen that before?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 02/09/2013 10:09:34    1472773

slayer
County: Limerick
Posts: 4727

1472767 The eye gouging incident has to be looked at by video - still photos don't tell the whole story.

Listen not for one second am I condoning this incident... O'Carroll should miss the final if something more conclusive comes out.

That sort of carry on is awful.

But I still have to agree with the above point...

Going on photographic evidence would suggest that Gormely could easily be found guilty of assault...

It looked that bad...

But the video of that incident tells a whole different story...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 02/09/2013 10:09:50    1472774

@jimbo
have you seen the video of McMahon's kick?

I agree with you completely, OCarroll cannot be done based on a photo only

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 216 - 02/09/2013 10:15:52    1472786

slayer
County: Limerick
Posts: 4727

1472767 The eye gouging incident has to be looked at by video - still photos don't tell the whole story.

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As I said I'm not condoning anything... but it's just plain wrong to judge an incident on the shutter speed of a camera

Which is quicker than the blink of an eye...

The Gormley incident is concrete proof of this.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 02/09/2013 10:15:59    1472787

There was no eye gouging - utter lies.

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 02/09/2013 10:17:59    1472790

jimbodub
County: Dublin
Posts: 10897

1472754 First off - it doesn't look good... it looks like he should miss the final IMO

BUT WAIT A SECOND...

If you are going to convict someone of a snap shot in time

Then Conor Gormley would have missed the semi-final...

Remember how that shot looked frozen in time... a closed fist to the face is what it looked like!

If you hadn't seen the video you'd swear it was a direct punch straight to the jaw based on the photo alone

themaster I think posted a shot of the incident... go have a look yourselves

But there's a completely different story to tell when you see it in real time

You see the video AND it's a completely different story altogether and he was rightly cleared of that incident

- Now please tell me if that's the truth or not!

If it was up to the photo alone he would have missed the semi which would have been an injustice to the player and to Tyrone

Based on that incident I think it's important not to judge on a photo as has been correctly pointed out by a number of posters

You then have posters on personal agenda's such as Brend to highlight injustices against his own county

But in doing so he's ignoring an incident that happened to one of his own county men... which could have seen him unjustly punished.

Going on photographic evidence alone...

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Perfect post on that Jim. Imagine if the shoulder charge to Cluxton's chest had been frozen or the shoulder charge by O'Donoghue to Cooper's chest or what if somebody analysed Galvin's antics holding his head after Cooper pushed him in the BACK, an attempt to get Cooper sent off.

People need to cop on and look at that game in terms of entertainment value and the effort of 30+ amateurs who displayed unbelievable levels of commitment, athleticism and skill. Fantastic stuff. The begrudgers will always come on and knock those heading for the top. I'm sure Mayo would love it if half the Dublin backs were suspended for the final but sure look we have a decent panel there anyway and depriving a guy of a place in a final for a frozen picture is outrageous.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 02/09/2013 10:18:25    1472791

Muckrosshead:

As I said I'm not condoning anything... but it's just plain wrong to judge an incident on the shutter speed of a camera

Which is quicker than the blink of an eye...

The Gormley incident is concrete proof of this.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 02/09/2013 10:19:03    1472793

BlastCalyle
County: Mayo
Posts: 23

1472786 @jimbo
have you seen the video of McMahon's kick?

I agree with you completely, OCarroll cannot be done based on a photo only

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Honestly I haven't...

Was it in your opinion 100% intentional?

As regards O'Carroll again I have to agree with that stance

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 02/09/2013 10:22:06    1472797

This is a serious incident as is Mcmahons stamp.If the CCC has any balls it will investigate both.If they were Tyrone players can you imagine the outcry

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1744 - 02/09/2013 10:22:48    1472800

There was no deliberate lashing out with the boot to trip Gooch, there was no deliberate stamp on the head of Gooch, there was no deliberate eye gouge on Gooch. Dublin played the game in a fair and sporting manner, it was all a massive coincidence that Gooch was taken out of the game. Yeah right,lol.

bryanadams (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 02/09/2013 10:23:49    1472801

I think saying things like 'wouldn't happen if they were teamX players' is wide of the mark.

We need to examine each incident in it's own merits and stop making comparisons that cloud the issue. Every time an incident happens in GAA you hear a comparison or mention of another team.

Forget who they play for & analyse as you would like to be treated on the field. At Inter County level I don't see any evidence of bias from the GAA or cccc or referees. We can all be passionate about our own team's plight but we need to start making decisions in the best interests of the game.

I think many Dublin fans have been fair on this topic today and if it it proven the Dublin player deliberately gouged Cooper then he misses the final. If it was pushing & shoving that accidentally resulted in a finger in the eye then that's different.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6484 - 02/09/2013 10:30:22    1472807

http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10194750/

56 minutes and 30 seconds into the match,
it shows the replay of the Philly McMahon kick

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 216 - 02/09/2013 10:31:15    1472808

Well said Slayer but the CCC MUST investigate both O Carroll and Mcmahon

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1744 - 02/09/2013 10:32:11    1472810

the CCC MUST investigate both O Carroll and Mcmahon

As far as I know they will as long as the referee did not deal with either incident on the field at the time?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6484 - 02/09/2013 10:33:47    1472813

jobber
County: Westmeath
Posts: 202

1472810 Well said Slayer but the CCC MUST investigate both O Carroll and Mcmahon
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That's only fair. That's what will happen I'd say...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 02/09/2013 10:35:15    1472817

Well said Slayer but the CCC MUST investigate both O Carroll and Mcmahon


And the fact that they wont will highlight your bitter begrudgery

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 02/09/2013 10:37:26    1472819

Why do the dubs feel the need to bring all the dirty little incidents into the game ?
They played great football that was a joy to behold .
Pushing after frees were awarded , Brennan lifting Gooch off the ground , McMahon kicking Gooch .
They were lucky to finish with 15 players still on the field .
They can play great football , I loved their aggressive style and commitment but cut out the stupidity .
Its not impressing anyone .
Up mayo !

StopTheLights (Galway) - Posts: 432 - 02/09/2013 10:37:48    1472820