Why can,t we have the red button press it for Irish language if not in English, everyone a winner.
That would be to easy it would never work.

knowtherules (UK) - Posts: 181 - 21/08/2013 19:24:44    1465354

Ye I think it's a bit annoying listening to Irish when the minor matches are on, English is my first language as it is for most people on this Island and I think the national broadcaster should broadcast in a language that the majority of people can understand, it's a simple ask really.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 21/08/2013 19:35:12    1465364

Historically,it goes back to when GAA insisted that 50% of commentary would be in the first official language. As for the opening post, he/she must be helpless altogether when attending a game and having no-one to commentate for them.

jerryp (Cork) - Posts: 104 - 21/08/2013 19:47:07    1465373

It's pathetic to see this old argument being drawn down again at this time of year.

Two matches a year are broadcast in Irish out of about 25+ games, a tiny fraction.
Most of the words are pretty easy to make out anyways e.g. húcáil= hook, blocáil= block, ciceáil= kick, pasáil= pass, púc= puck
Why not embrace it and use it as an opportunity to scrub up on your Irish rather than criticise it.

whitefire (Limerick) - Posts: 177 - 21/08/2013 19:47:53    1465374

Actually the red button thing is a great idea. Choose. Everyone wins.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/08/2013 20:13:31    1465388

Wait, isn't the All Ireland minor final on TV3(for hurling anyway)? The minor final will be broadcast in English on TV3, and in Irish on 3e. So anyone for who 60 minutes of Irish per year is too much, and can't follow the game without be told whats happening, they'll have the choice to watch the minor final in English. Rock on.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 21/08/2013 20:25:32    1465393

21/08/2013 19:24:44
knowtherules
Why can't we have the red button press it for Irish language if not in English, everyone a winner.
That would be to easy it would never work. We can't use red button for different language option like done on Welsh channel S4C and other channels across the world as RTE doesn't have the money to put in the required technology to do so.
21/08/2013 19:35:12
Htaem
Ye I think it's a bit annoying listening to Irish when the minor matches are on, English is my first language as it is for most people on this Island and I think the national broadcaster should broadcast in a language that the majority of people can understand, it's a simple ask really. should the national broadcaster also not help promote irish, native language of the country, and help give irish more time and on screen time to a larger proportion of population.
Is 60 minutes of a few games every year in irish such a big deal?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/08/2013 20:26:42    1465394

Don't worry hteam just log in here after the match and I'll tell you the result if you don't catch it "trí Ghaeilge".

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13839 - 21/08/2013 20:50:06    1465413

by rights, the whole country would be speaking Irish if the first Irish government had gone about it properly

look at Israel.
everyone speaks Hebrew, but before 1948 when Israel was established very few people spoke Hebrew

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1910 - 22/08/2013 08:28:48    1465483

I like the commentary in Irish. The players names are in English so it's hardly that much of an issue. Maybe some on here need to freshen up on our native tongue!

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 22/08/2013 08:36:45    1465485

Jesus we are in a world were people want everything dumbed down to the lowest common dominator.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 22/08/2013 11:17:14    1465600

why not do the commentary in french or spanish altogether?more wud understand it at least

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 22/08/2013 11:48:03    1465630

No harm in keeping some National Identity.
The bit of as gaeilge now adds to the minor game as usually the commentator sounds failty passionate and fluent unlike the likes of ger canning and now marty morrissey speaking as bearla in the senior game!

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 22/08/2013 11:58:16    1465642

Michael O Se's commentarty was one of the things I loved most about All Ireland final day. Could follow bits of what he was saying, but it just always felt part of the build up to the big day. To me nothing wrong with keeping tradition, but some people keep feeling there is always some changes needed.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 22/08/2013 12:03:16    1465648

Anyone who went to school in 26 counties should be able to follow most of the commentary. The vocabulary is pretty limited and it is hurling and football, not a symposium on the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Some Irish people just have a psychological aversion to their own language it seems.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 22/08/2013 12:12:03    1465651

witnof
Jesus we are in a world were people want everything dumbed down to the lowest common dominator.

Dumbed down? Is irish harder to speak than english or something?
The reality is that it is in irish to suit this wishy-washy idea that we all love speaking irish and everyone understands it - neither is true. There is an air of pompous self-gratification about it - much like on here, when posters choose to post in irish in the middle of an english speaking thread, adn continue to do so when asked to stop. Functionally, there is absolutely no purpose to doing it. It is the equivalent of someone choosing to post in spanish or latin as far as im concerned, it serves no purpose other than self-gratification. If we actually liked speaking it then we would be speaking it.
It is similar in the gaelthacht areas where signposts are in irish only - yet the signs are mainly for the purpose of non-irish speakers. What purpose does it serve? Surely the correct thing is to cater for everyone and not this elitist attitude that some (not all) irish speakers seem to revel in? It is the equivalent of putting on a television show that a fraction of the people are interested in, and making us all watch it.
GAA should be commentated on in english. If people want an irish version then turn on radio na gaelthacta or another specialised media outlet that caters for it. They are in the minority after all, I dont see why this particular minority should be treated differently to any other minority.
And before people jump down my neck, I fully understand irish and speak it quite well, Im just not of the opinion that it should be forced down everyones throat.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 22/08/2013 12:27:03    1465668

And people in the north get dogs abuse (rightly so for the style of football played) and not seen as real Irish! Some of ye mexicans make me sick!
'English is my first language blah blah blah'
Make an effort to listen for 60min! At least ye got the opportunity to learn our native tongue through your whole school career, be proud of your heritage. You follow Gaeilge Games, support other aspects of the culture

beansycpn (Down) - Posts: 128 - 22/08/2013 12:35:30    1465674

Kavie

Very funny. Trés drole.

Although on a serious note. More people wouldn't understand it in French or Spanish. Major underestimate of how many could understand commentary as Gaeilge.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13839 - 22/08/2013 12:44:16    1465684

when you go to a match you dont have a commentator telling you what your watching so why the big deal if you cannot understand our native language while watching a match,you see with your eyes whats going on regardless.
if anything i wish that rte would bring in for the senior matches an option of being able to watch the match without a commentary just the atmosphere from the stadium instead of listening to useless info about what johnnys dog ate for breakfast or how many championship points so and so has scored since he was 3.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/08/2013 12:50:16    1465687

"I dont see why this particular minority should be treated differently to any other minority."

What a stupid thing to say!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/08/2013 13:09:20    1465709