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Why have minor commentary in Irish?

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Always been a bugbear with me. RTE is a public service broadcaster and should not be politically or culturally discriminatory.
Especially now that there is a station TG4 specifically for the Irish language.
It just seems that the language is being nodded to and patted on the head - an important occasion but not that important - if they really wanted they could do the senior game in Irish.
Another example of the various alternative universes which populate modern Ireland today.

lamhliathroid1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 25 - 21/08/2013 16:50:17    1465244

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Tradition and nothing else, unless the people in the Gaelteacht only follow minor hurling. Donegal, Kerry, Rathcairn.... nah, must be Galway so : )

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8818 - 21/08/2013 16:57:59    1465257

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If people like you had their way, the language would be dead and buried. Irish culture and heritage is valued by some

Popitover1 (Galway) - Posts: 76 - 21/08/2013 16:59:22    1465259

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If people like you had their way, the language would be dead and buried. Irish culture and heritage is valued by some

Popitover1 (Galway) - Posts: 76 - 21/08/2013 16:59:24    1465260

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lamhliathroid1
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"Always been a bugbear with me. RTE is a public service broadcaster and should not be politically or culturally discriminatory.
Especially now that there is a station TG4 specifically for the Irish language.
It just seems that the language is being nodded to and patted on the head - an important occasion but not that important - if they really wanted they could do the senior game in Irish.
Another example of the various alternative universes which populate modern Ireland today."

That is such a hypocrtical post

kinnegad75 (Westmeath) - Posts: 68 - 21/08/2013 17:04:41    1465263

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a dúirt go maith Popitover1

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 21/08/2013 17:09:34    1465268

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lamhliathroid1
County: Tyrone
Always been a bugbear with me. RTE is a public service broadcaster and should not be politically or culturally discriminatory.


Yeah, a public service...in Ireland. How is broadcasting in the (love it or loathe it) native language of the country being politically or culturally discriminatory? Does the fact that your own username uses 2 Irish words make you a bigot? Actually, its because its a public service broadcaster that RTE should have it in Irish. Its just 2 games a year, is it that much of an imposition?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 21/08/2013 17:10:25    1465271

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I can see both sides to this argument. I for one, have reclaimed a certain amount of the Irish I learned at school through watching Gaelic games on TG4. Then again, from a promotional point of view maybe English is the better option...

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/08/2013 17:10:41    1465272

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It was brilliant when Micheál O'Sé was doing it for years he made it so special. With his unique voice it didnt matter if you didnt understand the language he had a way of connecting to anyone that was watching. I notice he is not doing it anymore the last couple of years anyone know why?

robopaddy (Waterford) - Posts: 81 - 21/08/2013 17:22:02    1465285

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Now I don't speak a word of Irish but my wife and a children have all A level Irish and I doubt they could translate the commentary as it seems pretty rapid fire.... But I for one like the commentary to be kept in Gaelic nothing like starting the build up to the All Ireland Semi final and final Sunday with a little bit of Culture , Our society seems hell bent in eroding away our identity to the PC brigade ,we'er a Christen country and it seems wearing a Cross can be seen bye some as offensive so we should try and keep as much of OUR culture as possible . Now that's my rant over for another week and I'm away to have a big slice Irish wheaten some Irish cheese and wash it down with a big glass of Irish Whiskey . Oíche mhaith!.

williewentwell (Tyrone) - Posts: 1712 - 21/08/2013 17:26:40    1465288

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Is Brea liom An Lu.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 21/08/2013 17:27:22    1465289

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Just move minor games to TG4 and then no problem

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4958 - 21/08/2013 17:29:35    1465292

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I wish I could speak and understand our native language but when watching these games I mute the tv and turn on the wireless commentry.

muckla (UK) - Posts: 373 - 21/08/2013 17:32:31    1465294

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Kind of so used to it now, I'd probably miss it if they changed it!!

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2506 - 21/08/2013 17:42:30    1465301

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21/08/2013 16:50:17
lamhliathroid1
Always been a bugbear with me. RTE is a public service broadcaster and should not be politically or culturally discriminatory.
Especially now that there is a station TG4 specifically for the Irish language.
It just seems that the language is being nodded to and patted on the head - an important occasion but not that important - if they really wanted they could do the senior game in Irish.
Another example of the various alternative universes which populate modern Ireland today.

Tradtion. Keeps Irish in the association in another way to other existing ways the language is kept alive through the organisation.
How is promoting the native language of the country discriminatory in any way?

21/08/2013 17:22:02
robopaddy
It was brilliant when Micheál O'Sé was doing it for years he made it so special. With his unique voice it didnt matter if you didnt understand the language he had a way of connecting to anyone that was watching. I notice he is not doing it anymore the last couple of years anyone know why?
retirement perhaps?? No idea

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/08/2013 17:48:01    1465305

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It doesn't bother me one way or the other.
I think some people' particularly in gaa can go overboard in the cultural thing and are obsessed with keeping this that or the other to keep our identity. I never needed the language flag anthem or anything like that to keep my identity. I'm secure in it myself and don't need a crutch to reinforce it.
On the flip side you have those that want rid of anythingthey see as old fashioned in a ddesperate attempt to prove we are a modern purist society. Again not a argument I subscribe to.
But then that's just me.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/08/2013 17:54:36    1465308

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The game largely speaks for itself in that it can be easily followed even without commentary. Its not like the news or a political debate etc. where they could be discussing anything and so shouldn't particularly affect persons with little or no Irish in understanding the spectacle. I personally think that the commentary as gaeilge is great and helps promote the language and culture wherever it may be heard, something that's intrinsic in the ethos of the CLG / GAA. For that alone I think its well worth it. I also think the way its spoken lends itself to the excitement of the game and personally really enjoy listening to the Irish commentary, even if I'm a bit rustier in the comprehension than I'd like to be.

All the senior championship games are commentated on through English. Does anyone really want the small minority of games that involve Irish commentary to be changed?

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 21/08/2013 17:59:50    1465312

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Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1748 - 21/08/2013 18:01:55    1465314

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Thank you Mr Ballhand for those observations. It's clear from your username you haven't a word of Irish. Some of us are proud of our national language and the commentary for minor games is one of the few ways to promote the language rather than surrender to the Anglicisation or Americanisation of the spoken and written word in Ireland.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8230 - 21/08/2013 18:22:54    1465320

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Micheal O'Se has indeed retired. He is often seen around Tralee having the odd bet.

kerry74 (Kerry) - Posts: 1354 - 21/08/2013 18:32:55    1465329

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