gotmilk
County: Fermanagh
Posts: 1479

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jafallon was it not around this time in 2008 that Tyrone were trading around the 20s mark? I wouldn't say that the bookies are usually on the money around this time of year. Cork were clear favourites at this time last year. Donegal were around 4th or so if memory serves correctly.
The Dubs will always be short odds though due to the dedicated numbers of Dubs who will bet on them year after year

Sure every team that has ever won it has looked too big a price in hindsight. Donegal last year hadn't won it since 1992, had been hammered by Cork in years previous and had lost to Dublin the year before. There was no way they couldve been shorter in the betting than Cork Dublin and Kerry. Tyrone were in the qualifiers at that stage in 2008. At those very times they were likely the right price. Somebody had to win.

The team the bookies make favourite doesnt always win. Dublin are a 2/1 shot with most. The bookie's are saying they have a 33% of winning with those odds, and 66% chance of not winning. It's not saying they're even more likely to win than not. If they don't win this year, will you come on next year saying the bookies got it wrong?

@Sugardaddy, Mayo have a pathetic record in the All ireland series and Kerry don't. hence Kerry must be shorter. Mayo would be a shorter price to reach the final than Kerry. But until they actually win an AI, layers will always be willing to take them on.

jafallon (Galway) - Posts: 489 - 01/07/2013 20:27:51    1421060

Tipps 27th

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 01/07/2013 20:37:22    1421069

@51longago

UCD hurlers were 1/500 to beat DCU in the group stages of the Fitzgibbon Cup earlier this year. They only won by 6 points in the end!

UCDlad (Dublin) - Posts: 21 - 01/07/2013 21:50:13    1421156

sugar.daddy
County: Mayo
Posts: 60

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How they have Kerry shorter odds than Mayo is beyond me, are you telling me that the current Kerry team and management of Eamon Fitzmaurice is stonger than the Mayo setup, no chance. Now neither side holds the favourites tag at present with that going to Dublin but in my opinion the winner will most definitely come from either Dublin, Donegal or Mayo, they have all the attributes of an All Ireland winning team end of.

I think Kerry have a better chance than Mayo. Mayo won't win it as they are bottlers. Its between Dublin or Donegal.

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 668 - 02/07/2013 09:13:42    1421214

Ja Fallon Donegal lost by 2 points to a side who went on to become All Ireland champions. McFadden had the opportunity to win the game for Donegal against them also. All I am trying to say is that normally at this time of year the side who are favourites do not go on to win it.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 02/07/2013 09:34:46    1421229

Kerry are 9/2 but Cork are 15/2 , I don't see the logic in that.

CaisleanCnucha (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 02/07/2013 10:21:40    1421263

CaisleanCnucha
County: Dublin
Posts: 452

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Kerry are 9/2 but Cork are 15/2 , I don't see the logic in that.


The logic is that Kerry are favourites to beat Cork Sunday, which means Cork will have an extra game to play to make the Quarter Finals, that game is an unknown quantity, hence the big price.

Cute_Kerry_Hoor (Kerry) - Posts: 2518 - 02/07/2013 10:33:55    1421282

Ok,but I would say that Cork are almost guaranteed to make the 1/4s once they avoid Tyrone, and I would still fancy them against Tyrone. I suppose then they have to play Donegal/Mayo/Dublin (most likely) but this is all assuming they lose to Kerry, and I reckon they have a good chance against Kerry. I see the logic in them being higher but 15/2 is very generous.

CaisleanCnucha (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 02/07/2013 10:45:17    1421300

Aidan64
I think Kerry have a better chance than Mayo. Mayo won't win it as they are bottlers. Its between Dublin or Donegal.

Some superb opinions there backed up with some concrete analysis.its a foregone conclusion now,get your money on everyone.

The_purist (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 02/07/2013 10:48:50    1421307

all ireland football championship betting as of this evening

Dublin 15/8 biggest price of 21/10 with william hill

Kerry 10/3 biggest price of 4/1 with william hill

Donegal 7/2 biggest price of 9/2 with boylesports

Mayo 4/1 biggest price of 11/2 with stan james

Cork 9/1 biggest price of 12/1 with paddy power

tyrone 14/1 biggest price of 18/1 with paddy power

and its 50/1 the field

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/07/2013 21:01:24    1426123

From what I saw today Kerry at 10/3 is a mystery.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 07/07/2013 21:13:58    1426130

all ireland hurling championship

Kilkenny 5/4 with biggest price of 11/8 with paddy power

Dublin 3/1 with biggest price of 4/1 with ladbrokes

Galway 9/2 with biggest price of 13/2 with paddy power

Cork 11/2 with biggest price of 13/2 with paddy power

Limerick 6/1 with biggest price of 8/1 with william hill

Clare 9/1 with biggest price of 14/1 with boylesports

Waterford 30/1 with biggest price of 40/1 with boylesports

Wexford 100/1 with biggest price of 200/1 with paddy power

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/07/2013 21:18:15    1426139

I'm surprised everyone is ruling Kerry out. They will still have a big say in the cship. Expect them to get to the All Ireland if they avoid Dublin

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 08/07/2013 10:53:03    1426308

tiobraid
I'm surprised everyone is ruling Kerry out. They will still have a big say in the cship. Expect them to get to the All Ireland if they avoid Dublin

And how do you suggest they do that? If they win their games, they are going to meet them in the semi, if they lose from here on, they are out...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 08/07/2013 11:00:46    1426315

Tiobraid, kerry and the dubs cannot meet in the final this year, its leinster munster and ulster connacht semis

loyal82royal (Meath) - Posts: 260 - 08/07/2013 11:44:49    1426366

Right now it looks like a Dublin Donegal final but i wouldnt
rule out a kerry Mayo final whicch would mean no AI for Mayo in 13

wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 08/07/2013 12:44:54    1426445

tiobraid
County: Tipperary
Posts: 1156

1426308 I'm surprised everyone is ruling Kerry out. They will still have a big say in the cship. Expect them to get to the All Ireland if they avoid Dublin

They can't get to an All Ireland final without facing the Dubs (that's if An Mhí don't beat us on Sunday and I don't give an Mhí a chance in a billion).

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 08/07/2013 13:16:27    1426491

How in Gods name are Kerry a shorter price than Donegal? Dublin and Donegal should be favourites. To be honest I dont think Mayo will do it.I think Kerry have a better chance of winning it than them

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 668 - 08/07/2013 13:24:21    1426498