good point arock.

I would love to see a minor, junior, intermediate and senior matches all played at croke park in a festival of hurling on AI day. Every game 60 minutes apart from the senior which is 70. You could play it off over 5 hours....maybe a bit long.

HQ needs to start treating weaker hurling counties with some respect, they're doing nothing to help them.

There should be a hurling board in every county alongside a football one. Equal power should be given in fixing matches and funding should be split evenly. Only then will we have equality.

The strides made by many weaker counties are despite their county boards (for the most part) instead of as a result of county board initiatives.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 23/05/2013 11:27:16    1389534

I'm behind Arock's idea to a degree. I believe though there is still a place for the current tiers with counties playing each other. If the B championship is a non-runner, why can't Kerry play in the Munster Intermediate Championship as well? Our senior club hurling champion already enters the Munster Intermediate Club championship. All tier 2, Ring counties, should have the option to play in the Intermediate championship as well.

Now I could be wrong but I think Kerry have inquired before about entering the Intermediate Championship but there's some rule which won't allow it.

Is anyone aware of such a rule? If it is, it's yet another rule denying certain counties the opportunity of more games and progression.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9798 - 23/05/2013 21:57:27    1390189

hurlinspuds
County: Cork
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1389534 good point arock.

There should be a hurling board in every county alongside a football one. Equal power should be given in fixing matches and funding should be split evenly. Only then will we have equality.

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I would support a hurling board for counties that wish to set one up. It makes sense being it is a different sport with it's own needs for personnel, funding and scheduling.
If hurling is not invigorated in more counties, it is possible that it could become less popular and be replaced by another sport as the 2nd most popular in the country.

mikeyjoe (USA) - Posts: 415 - 24/05/2013 12:32:57    1390409

Re the hurling:

Rather than having hurling boards in each county (I doubt my own could support two boards in funding or personnel), I think the weaker counties need to be getting together and forming a national hurling union of sorts, to put forward ideas in a more unified manner. We are being held back by the big boys, who are closing ranks and trying to keep the shop closed.

St.John (Carlow) - Posts: 202 - 25/05/2013 11:48:02    1390976

St.John
County: Carlow
Re the hurling:

Rather than having hurling boards in each county (I doubt my own could support two boards in funding or personnel), I think the weaker counties need to be getting together and forming a national hurling union of sorts, to put forward ideas in a more unified manner. We are being held back by the big boys, who are closing ranks and trying to keep the shop closed.

Who are these 'big boys'?

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 25/05/2013 14:15:04    1391034

Hurling will never be taking seriously in footballing counties for the following reasons, Hurling isnt in the history, young children look up to role models in the community who are usually footballers so they want to be footballers and another reason is the snobbery of strong hurling counties to weaker counties. Even if lads are talented hurlers they are perceived to be useless by lads from strong hurling counties.

On the matter of RTE showing more football games, well this is correct. Football is the biggest sport in Ireland with the most viewers so you show more football matches.

ballaghmen (Mayo) - Posts: 318 - 25/05/2013 15:05:15    1391052

ballaghmen
County: Mayo
Hurling will never be taken seriously in footballing counties for the following reasons, Hurling isnt in the history, young children look up to role models in the community who are usually footballers so they want to be footballers and another reason is the snobbery of strong hurling counties to weaker counties. Even if lads are talented hurlers they are perceived to be useless by lads from strong hurling counties.

So a reason why hurling will never be taking seriously in footballing counties is the snobbery of strong hurling counties to weaker counties, are you serious? I hear this rubbish trotted out from time to time, but it never ceases to depress me. What has the attitude of anyone else got to do with people promoting hurling in their own county. Did people's attitude towards Clare hurling stop Clare becoming the dominant hurling force in the mid/late 90's? No. In fact it drove them on.

And does the attitude of the 'stronger' hurling counties prevent people voting on hurling rules and competition structures at the various congresses? No. The supposed elite hurling counties are very much in the minority, so even if they wanted to protect these imagined interests, they could be easily outvoted by all the other counties, if any of the county boards sent delegates who gave a stuff about hurling.

But even at that, do you really think the 'stronger' hurling counties want hurling to die, do you really think they want no-one else to compete? If you do, you know very little about hurling. If some new teams came on and became really competitive. winning AI's, no-one would be more happy than hurling people in Kilkenny, Tipp, Galway, Clare, Limerick, Waterford etc. Any competition is diminished when less people care about winning it

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 25/05/2013 15:45:47    1391065

ballaghmen
County: Mayo
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Hurling snobbery??? pot. kettle. black? I think the "footballing snobbery in some counties is acutally amazing. Tippery are one of the most staunchet hurling counties. No tradition of "heroes" in football yet their underage success in recent years shows that where theres a will there is a way. In A number of years Tipp will be challenging for Munster in Football. I can just imagine you in Mayo stifling hurling development out of sheer predjudice towards a sport.

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 25/05/2013 17:34:14    1391122

ballaghmen
County: Mayo
Posts: 307
Hurling snobbery??? pot. kettle. black? I think the "footballing snobbery in some counties is acutally amazing. Tippery are one of the most staunchet hurling counties. No tradition of "heroes" in football yet their underage success in recent years shows that where theres a will there is a way. In A number of years Tipp will be challenging for Munster in Football. I can just imagine you in Mayo stifling hurling development out of sheer predjudice towards a sport.

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 25/05/2013 17:34:14    1391123