There are a lot of comments on the cavan Fermanagh game on sunday. Some people think it was puke football and to a certain degree I can see why. Its typical for an ulster match to be tight, physical, low scoring, defensive but I must admit I was disappointed by the man in the middle. Both teams adopted a defensive structure and that is fine and from what I could see, there were plenty of men breaking the lines but then they were being mobbed by 2 to 3 players, and not just being surrounded, fouled quite cynically. Several times it could be seen that runs were being checked off the ball.
It is my opinion, that its up to the referee to cut this out. If this is indeed ruining our game (as some people think) then it must be up the refs and the Gaa HQ to cut it out. Both teams were exhausted the last day but it was from fouling and wrestling each other. Both teams and all teams will continue to play within the rules as long as the refs allow them to do so. For the record I enjoyed the game, its hard to beat an intense physical battle that's close but it was frustrating to see the offensive players on both teams receive no protection from the ref. How can forwards and teams genuinely express themselves without the protection of the ref.

81DLSAM (Donegal) - Posts: 281 - 18/06/2013 15:53:54    1409978

A lot of people over looked the main factor.two div 3 teams it was never gonna be a game of pure top class football

Midlu1 (Louth) - Posts: 790 - 18/06/2013 16:05:16    1409991

Is the East Terrace at Breffni Park the one along the sideline?

MourneArmy (Down) - Posts: 1787 - 18/06/2013 21:09:22    1410323

Lads, ye shouldn't be bothered with the media slating Ulster football, its been going on since the 70s. Yes, the Cavan/Fermanagh game wasn't very pretty to watch in the first half, the second half was a much better affair. But I enjoy watching them because in most cases they are at least competitive and are not over at half time like every game in Connaught and Munster this year (How in the name of god did the Mayo/Roscommon game attract 20,000, unbelieveable crowd for what was always going to be an easy win for Mayo). Leinster have had a couple of close contests, Wicklow/Longford, Wicklow/Meath, Louth/Wexford, Offaly/Kildare! Don't get too worried what they say, Ulster football is still the best!

Salmanneile (Longford) - Posts: 113 - 19/06/2013 10:17:31    1410458

s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 2087


This is factually incorrect. so let me put the record straight here. Cavan have won 6 ulster titles since 1951.

My Bad,its 1969 not 1951,its that far back i was getting mixed up.

So since 1969 Cavan have won 1 Senior Title,thats my point.

hardcore (Monaghan) - Posts: 1366 - 19/06/2013 13:28:29    1410695

Hardcore : If we were as dirty and doing so much messing , how did use come too have more players sent off ? We'll wait now for you too start blaming the ref I'm sure :-) Would'nt be like use or anything :-)

cavanman10 (Cavan) - Posts: 78 - 19/06/2013 15:19:22    1410799

hardcore
County: Monaghan
Posts: 759

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s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 2087


This is factually incorrect. so let me put the record straight here. Cavan have won 6 ulster titles since 1951.

My Bad,its 1969 not 1951,its that far back i was getting mixed up.

So since 1969 Cavan have won 1 Senior Title,thats my point.

Well that wasn't actually your point at all until I corrected you. :)

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5524 - 19/06/2013 15:59:38    1410849

From Hoganstands How does your county Rank:

22. ANTRIM (no change)

Antrim pushed Monaghan to the pin of their collar in Casement Park two weeks ago. It was a creditable performance and a major improvement on the form which saw them relegated to Division 4.

What planet was whoever decided this on? Pushed Monaghan to the pin of their collar? Creditable performance? Hoganstand, can you please introduce mandatory substance testing for employees please.... ;-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/06/2013 16:03:47    1410855

19/06/2013 15:59:38
s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 2097

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hardcore
County: Monaghan
Posts: 759

1410695
s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 2087


This is factually incorrect. so let me put the record straight here. Cavan have won 6 ulster titles since 1951.

My Bad,its 1969 not 1951,its that far back i was getting mixed up.

So since 1969 Cavan have won 1 Senior Title,thats my point.

Well that wasn't actually your point at all until I corrected you. :)

NO NO, you corrected me on the year,that i got wrong,but not on the amount of titles yous have won.

1 senior title in 44 years,yeah us Monaghan people have alot to be jealous about!;)

hardcore (Monaghan) - Posts: 1366 - 20/06/2013 13:55:52    1411505

Offside_Rule
County: Antrim
Posts: 851

1410855
From Hoganstands How does your county Rank:

22. ANTRIM (no change)

Antrim pushed Monaghan to the pin of their collar in Casement Park two weeks ago. It was a creditable performance and a major improvement on the form which saw them relegated to Division 4.

What planet was whoever decided this on? Pushed Monaghan to the pin of their collar? Creditable performance? Hoganstand, can you please introduce mandatory substance testing for employees please.... ;-)
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ha ha ha ha, that's hilarious Offside, I dare even the most one eyed Antrim supporter would have had a chuckle at that.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 20/06/2013 14:04:17    1411520

cavanman10
County: Cavan
Posts: 71

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Hardcore : If we were as dirty and doing so much messing , how did use come too have more players sent off ? We'll wait now for you too start blaming the ref I'm sure :-) Would'nt be like use or anything :-)

Were you at the game?The ref lost control,Cavan backs targeted McManus & Hughes,McManus got the line,the rest lost their disapline,as Cavan were up for the game and we werent.

But you will see a very different Monaghan team Saturday week,mark my words.

And just for the record,john McCutcheon should not have been sent off that night,as Darren Hughes was slipping as he ran into the tackle,it looked a lot worse than it was,as i said before,the Ref lost his control!

hardcore (Monaghan) - Posts: 1366 - 20/06/2013 14:06:49    1411525

I reckon old Frankie boy was behind this one brend.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 20/06/2013 14:42:08    1411566

I was at the league meeting in feb and I don't see what the monaghan whining is about.mc manus got sent off for something off the ball,he must be very easily riled because I didn't see anything major done to him.martin Dunne sending off was very soft.mc cutcheon went after half time so that's 13v14.monaghan didn't score or look like scoring for 40 mins.was this the referees fault?cavans fault?too cold?the grass too long?or was it that mc manus was stupid enough to get sent off and ye have nobody else good enough to kick a few scores, other than old man Freeman.hughes is the only decent player ye have so if we look after him, we'll be grand

kanu (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 20/06/2013 16:09:04    1411672

HARDCORE, co. monaghan,u were telling gary from derry, that since 1951 cavan have won 1 ulster senior, well they have won more than 1, was it not cavan, down in all ulster finals bar 1, from 1959,to 1969, and did cavan not win 4 in that period, and they won ulsters from 1951 to 1959, the last 4 years they appeared in 4 u21,winning 3, also a ulster minor, some1 told me out of approx 120 years of ulster senior football cavan were in about 60 ulster finals thats half HARDCORE, winning 39,cavans last senior was 1997, monaghan s was 1988,cavan have been in 20 ulster finals on the trot, winning 3, 7, etc in a row, yes its a while ago, but they still have the record, of most senior titles in ulster, u say cavan are bitter towards monaghan, ???????????????????,i have said before, cavan fear no1 in ulster, never have,never will, and their record proves it, monaghan should win in their semi with cavan, older team, experience etc, but they are on the slide, this cavan team,young, used to winning, are on the up,and i think they will in the future beat us, donegal, anyway Hardcore if monaghan are lucky, it will be some game with us,donegal, i think when monaghan see donegal v down, well the pressure will get to them, first against their old rivals cavan, then donegal waiting in the final, unless monaghan win both games, it will be the end of this monaghan team, donegal to send a chilling message out tomorrow, no disrespect to down, or monaghan,

mchugh11 (Donegal) - Posts: 242 - 22/06/2013 20:54:37    1413003

MCHugh11 your as much a donegal man as barack obama

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1949 - 22/06/2013 21:10:36    1413018

Down to beat this over rated donegal team.come down off the hills lads the air is going to your heads

Midlu1 (Louth) - Posts: 790 - 22/06/2013 21:15:47    1413021

ave said before, cavan fear no1 in ulster, never have,never will, and their record proves it,

Whatever your drinking sir is there enough to go around?

Samsforthehills (Donegal) - Posts: 1075 - 22/06/2013 21:31:13    1413035

shaggylegend ,monaghan, why u say that, cause i stand up for cavan, well i only pointed out what i feel is correct, can u tell me when monaghan last beat cavan in ulster senior football,it has to be the 1980s,and i am proud of my donegal roots,

mchugh11 (Donegal) - Posts: 242 - 22/06/2013 21:32:15    1413037

no donegal are not over rated, only all ireland champions, and going for 3 in a row in ulster, yes i guess they can be beaten, but i cant see it, not in ulster, anyway,

mchugh11 (Donegal) - Posts: 242 - 22/06/2013 21:35:49    1413039

Mchugh what would that have to do with any thing .this monaghan team have some of the best forwards in the country they ll take cavan to cleaners. Call it for what it is.

Midlu1 (Louth) - Posts: 790 - 22/06/2013 21:43:32    1413050