Yawn boaring please shut this down

delboydub (Dublin) - Posts: 665 - 12/05/2013 09:35:00    1382348

But WaynoI, Jim McG is talking, we all must listen and re-open the debate based on his teachings.

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Ha ha very good :)

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13659 - 12/05/2013 11:03:31    1382368

Jimmy is right to stand up for the player who got bitten,
but why did he leave it so late to voice his opinion?!
Let it go Jimmy, you'll get them through the backdoor
later in the summer!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 12/05/2013 12:27:15    1382406

A lot of people here seem to have a problem with JMcG cutting through the waffle & calling it as it is. He has outlined the course of events, including new material, which is at variance with the consensus & yet no one has called him on it or said he is wrong. Curiouser & curiouser!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 12/05/2013 12:36:44    1382413

I agree with you there muckross. I raised the point that he said the guy apologised afterwards, nobody has addressed it even though it is probably the most interesting line in the whole article. People are burying their head in the sand here, they are doing everything except address it. Lets call a spade a spade, people are either saying mcguinness has made that up and told a blatant lie, or they are accepting it happened. Which is it?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/05/2013 13:48:53    1382464

I just listened to Paudric Duffy on RTE and he sounded very embarrassed, indeed a bit sheepish, about this incident. He acknowledged that a biting incident had taken place and said it wasn't right that no one had been disciplined for that. However he once again seemed to put the emphasis on Donegal and McBrearty for not having turned up at the hearing. However if there was a biting allegation made, a statement given by the player bitten and a medical report backing that up WHY should a player have to turn up in person to defend what he has already stated? Of course Dublin and the player accused have to put their side of the story but surely the medical evidence and testimony of the player bitted are enough for the CCCC to make a decision as Jimmy McGuinness said. Asking McBrearty to turn up smacks of kopping out by the GAA and makes McBrearty and Donegal look like sneaks and that's why I believe Donegal are rightly furious.
Furthermore the fact is that some within the GAA and most GAA journalists want to keep on Dublin's side and don't want to be laden with a reputation for writing negative stories about them and some of them shamefully have buried their heads on this story while others have unashamedly automatically taken Dublin's side side irrespective. I also repeat could someone post the RTE Radio show that some posters have alluded to where certain allegations were made about this incident; that is something important that has been ignored. As Duffy said on the Radio there, this has indeed been a dark period for the GAA; you are right there Paudric and some within the GAA heirarchy have contributed to this. There are some who would be quite happy for all this to slip away and disappear but a lot of the GAA integrity and trust will also be lost along with it.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9840 - 12/05/2013 15:44:22    1382514

Someone gives a verbal statment,and then doesn't have to back it up,jesus the prisons would be full of people.Donegal have being showing up for what they are with this saga,and i hope to god you have a short summer,you have carried the mantle of champions with shame

D5dub (Dublin) - Posts: 283 - 12/05/2013 15:55:47    1382517

Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 6045

1382514 I just listened to Paudric Duffy on RTE and he sounded very embarrassed, indeed a bit sheepish, about this incident. He acknowledged that a biting incident had taken place and said it wasn't right that no one had been disciplined for that. However he once again seemed to put the emphasis on Donegal and McBrearty for not having turned up at the hearing. However if there was a biting allegation made, a statement given by the player bitten and a medical report backing that up WHY should a player have to turn up in person to defend what he has already stated? Of course Dublin and the player accused have to put their side of the story but surely the medical evidence and testimony of the player bitted are enough for the CCCC to make a decision as Jimmy McGuinness said. Asking McBrearty to turn up smacks of kopping out by the GAA and makes McBrearty and Donegal look like sneaks and that's why I believe Donegal are rightly furious.
Furthermore the fact is that some within the GAA and most GAA journalists want to keep on Dublin's side and don't want to be laden with a reputation for writing negative stories about them and some of them shamefully have buried their heads on this story while others have unashamedly automatically taken Dublin's side side irrespective. I also repeat could someone post the RTE Radio show that some posters have alluded to where certain allegations were made about this incident; that is something important that has been ignored. As Duffy said on the Radio there, this has indeed been a dark period for the GAA; you are right there Paudric and some within the GAA heirarchy have contributed to this. There are some who would be quite happy for all this to slip away and disappear but a lot of the GAA integrity and trust will also be lost along with it.

Would you be on here saying the same if an ulster team was accused, or in your mind are they always the ones who are wronged,
when you start putting arguements for different counties in Ireland based on facts and not geographical locations, maybe your points then might seem genuine, not as they mostly do as propaganda and rhetoric.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 12/05/2013 15:59:14    1382521

You're so wrong Ulsterman, I worked in the media for years, and believe me, I've never been in such an anti-Dub environment in my life. The sports editor was a counrty lad, as were 90% of the reporters/journalists. They liked nothing better than to watch Dublin take a beating.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 12/05/2013 16:04:37    1382527

ANY mantle of shame is being carried by the GAA, Dublin and their media apologists. This is ONLY happening because it is Dublin.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9840 - 12/05/2013 16:11:18    1382533

Someone gives a verbal statment,and then doesn't have to back it up,jesus the prisons would be full of people.Donegal have being showing up for what they are with this saga,and i hope to god you have a short summer,you have carried the mantle of champions with shame

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Completely agree with the first bit of this post but wouldn't like the second bit. Donegal where and are deserved champions and they are still the team to beat.. !!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13659 - 12/05/2013 16:24:08    1382543

D5dub
County: Dublin
Posts: 111

1382517
Someone gives a verbal statment,and then doesn't have to back it up,jesus the prisons would be full of people.Donegal have being showing up for what they are with this saga,and i hope to god you have a short summer,you have carried the mantle of champions with shame

Sad bitter little post.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 12/05/2013 16:45:28    1382555

The dubs got away with it again they always do

chicago09 (Kerry) - Posts: 694 - 12/05/2013 16:59:09    1382568

I agree with Master who to give him his dues has been very consistant in his posts. You can't SHOUT this incident down or away no matter how loud you are and no matter how much you try to ridicule or abuse people. There are questions by the GAA and Dublin to answer here and they haven't been answered as of yet. Jimmy McGuinness has only raised these theories and doubts to a new level and it's obvious Donegal are spitting fury. Their reputation and integrity has been the ones to suffer here and deliberately left to do so by some elements.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9840 - 12/05/2013 17:01:12    1382570

D5dub
County: Dublin
Someone gives a verbal statment,and then doesn't have to back it up,jesus the prisons would be full of people.Donegal have being showing up for what they are with this saga,and i hope to god you have a short summer,you have carried the mantle of champions with shame


Pathetic, it is you who should be ashamed!
Ashamed of this post!! Pathetic!!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 12/05/2013 17:04:15    1382573

For God's sake lads, obviously something happened, but all involved have made a complete balls of it, and nothing will be rectified on here or anywhere else at this stage. If one of our lads bit McBrearty and he apologised, it's obvious that McBrearty didn't want to push this and the the authorities are incapable of dealing with it properly.

You can bounce this ball around all day and it won't land.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 12/05/2013 17:06:25    1382574

It's funny how things change. Dublin player bites a Donegal lad and Dublin posters on here blaming Donegal now for the way they handled this. Fact remains lads, Paddy WAS bitten. Dublin circle the wagons and deny, deny, deny. Dublin C.B. handled this shamefully, trying to shift the blame from the culprit to the victim. Fair play Jim, standing up for young player who the cccc and Dublin CB Hung out to dry. I'm not suprised how this has turned out. Was expecting it.

DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 503 - 12/05/2013 17:06:27    1382575

Chicago,

Fair dues, for many that is it in a nutshell!

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9840 - 12/05/2013 17:08:11    1382578

Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 6050

1382570
I agree with Master who to give him his dues has been very consistant in his posts. You can't SHOUT this incident down or away no matter how loud you are and no matter how much you try to ridicule or abuse people. There are questions by the GAA and Dublin to answer here and they haven't been answered as of yet. Jimmy McGuinness has only raised these theories and doubts to a new level and it's obvious Donegal are spitting fury. Their reputation and integrity has been the ones to suffer here and deliberately left to do so by some elements.

Very true. You cannot shout this incident down.

What you can do is keep shouting about it without having anything to back up your allegations.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13846 - 12/05/2013 17:08:29    1382579

I'm waiting for someone from the Dublin management to come out & call JMcG a liar. Until they do.....

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5030 - 12/05/2013 17:10:05    1382581