sedico
County: Kildare
Posts: 941

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clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 3150

1328914 Lads I'm crying here, crying laughing at the state of Meath football hahaha.



Thats a sad pathetic and childish post. Seriously grow up will you. I'm no fan of Meath and indeed certain posters from Meath on these boards deserve stick but there are a lot of decent Meath posters on this forum who don't deserve to read that rubbish above.



Would have to agree Sedico, on each point. No fan either but the genuine Meath fans don't deserve this rubbish.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1734 - 05/02/2013 16:24:39    1329122

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 3152

1329027 Sedico hahahahahaha I'm sorry but I can't help it hahahahahaha. Don't worry Meath lads it could be worst you could be Kildare hahahahahaha


Is this the level we've being dragged down to? Nothing more to be said.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 05/02/2013 16:26:57    1329125

TheGateKeeper
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1279

1329115 Meath's demise = Karma


karma from what?? some people on here are actually just being ridiculous...

meathalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 05/02/2013 17:18:32    1329161

TheGateKeeper
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1279

1329115
Meath's demise = Karma

Ha! That could be it indeed..................;)

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13837 - 05/02/2013 17:27:15    1329167

Unfortunately at present we are there to be kicked at and this whole thread is a Meath kicking exercise however as I said previous not all Dubs and certainly not all Lillywhites derive their days entertainment from not only slamming us in the present but diluting what we achieved in the past, a past record that most decent Dublin supporters would have been proud of back then, anyway my life is too short and my love of all things GAA is too great to be annoyed any further by such nonsensical musings

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3757 - 05/02/2013 17:34:38    1329176

Beelzedub
County: Dublin
Posts: 121

It was freakish luck. I don't know what you'd call it.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. So we were just "lucky"for everything we achieved in our 2 successful decades of the 80's and 90's? Why don't you go over to the Tyrone forums and post that they were also "lucky" that Micky Harte came along and brought them to the promised lad. And while you're at that sure head on over to the Down forums and tell them that they were also "lucky" for what they achieved in the early 90's.

While Sean Boylan was a great manager and an astute tactician there is no denying the fact that some of the finest footballers ever produced came from Meath during the 80's and 90's. Claiming that our success came purely from the luck of the appointment of Sean Boylan is an insult to any Meath supporter. Regardless of whoever could have been at the helm during that time, the players that were produced in the county during that period would have been successful anyway.

I don't know why we're the only county being singled out here. Most counties have their periods of success and failings and obviously we're in a fairly tough place. Offaly are another traditional footballing county who're in a similar position to us, so why aren't they getting as much attention? Some Dublin posters on here are very patronizing. Do you think for a moment we don't know ourselves whats going so wrong within the county? I wouldn't mind but you'd swear Dublin are the benchmark for Gaelic football with all their condescending posts aimed at Meath. We're very lucky for all we achieved because of our inferior population? Well if that's true then it only makes sense to say that your county's comical tow of 3 All-Irelands in 30 years is nothing short of hilarious for a population boasting 1.2 million.

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 790 - 05/02/2013 17:43:57    1329182

Richieq

I honestly didnt mean to kick Meath when their down.
I was just trying to make a point that was Meath achieved with those two sets of players and under Sean Boylan was above anything that was ever achieved before in Meaths history
The man with those two teams on the bounce won 4 All Irelands which is over 50% of your total AI's ever.
An amazing achievement. Those sort of stats speak for themselves. Everything came together wonderfully for the best part of 20 years in Meath
I think theres a chance that you may win more in the future but I dont think you'll ever see anything like the success in the 80's/90's ever again
It was a once off in Meath.

You had 3 spread out over many decades... then you had 4 in 2. A remarkable achievement but not sustainable forever.

Beelzedub (Dublin) - Posts: 480 - 05/02/2013 17:54:38    1329189

RoyalClass
County: Meath
Posts: 508

1329182 Beelzedub
County: Dublin
Posts: 121

It was freakish luck. I don't know what you'd call it.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. So we were just "lucky"for everything we achieved in our 2 successful decades of the 80's and 90's?


You were lucky to have two golden generations on the bounce and you had a man in charge that is easily up there with one of the greatest managers of all time.
If it wasn't lucky to produce those players all at the same time then why haven't you come close to reproducing the same circumstances again.

We were lucky to produce the team of the 70's. We too had a truly gifted man in charge and there was a generation of young lads in the 70's that all grew up and matured at the exact same time.
We never had such a crop before and we proved that they too were not a produce of our CB because we went years without being able to reproduce their achievements.
We still haven't pulled it off... 6 AI finals in a row with no back door.
They were a truly remarkable bunch. That doesn't come along every day... you boys had two incredible bunches on the bounce. It's a very rare thing
It's obvious that your county board had very little to do with it also.
Because it's proven to be unsustainable and hasn't been reproduced..
It was a remarkable achievement to win 4 AI's in 2 decades when you had only won 3 over the entire history of the GAA

Such an achievement is remarkable and when you look at your stats nothing comes close to those two decades 80's/90's
I don't think you'll ever see it again.

Beelzedub (Dublin) - Posts: 480 - 05/02/2013 18:05:31    1329202

Look this is a typical kick em when their down thing,
We will take it on the chin and move on, sean was probably the greatest manager of all time, while we had some good footballers he made them great footballers, sean and those days are gone, meath were renowned for their confidence and they played with a swagger, these are traits that sean instilled into gifted players that made them unbeatable and also loosing was never anyone's option, it's really is that simple, I played under many a man but never one so special

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/02/2013 18:32:54    1329216

ConnollyDub

"Yes I think we can all agree that luck played a huge part in Meaths success in that time. I think most genuine Meath fans will admit that."

Pure luck and 13 men behind the ball played a bigger part in your only All-Ireland in 17 years


I agree re the failure of the County Board but that Harnan, O'Rourke and Giles are the only All-Stars from this era who have touched an underage County team to my mind.

I would also make the point that the players from the 90's success could have achieved more but lost Giles, Ollie Murphy, Cormac Sullivan, Barry Callaghan, Mark O'Reilly and more in their mid to late 20's. The quality just hasn't been there to replace them since.

They say things come in cycles and ours if it is a cycle at the moment would seem to need whatever Lance Armstrong is having. However if a County wins 7 All-Irelands and loses its fair share spread over the 40's, 50's, 60's, 80's, 90's and 00's its hardly apt, educated or remotely related to fact to say that the 80's & 90's was some sort of a flash in the pan. How so do you explain Tyrone's 3 All-Irelands in 6 seasons? Or Down's 2 in 4. What about Cork's 2 in a row after how many years? Donegal won the only 2 All-Irelands they ever contested.

The right talent, a small province or handy backdoor route, an injury free year, a good manager, a rich vein of form and plenty of luck can be attributed to any team winning an All-Ireland. I would concede though that we did win all 4 under Boylan during Kerry's last slump in their cycle.

rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 05/02/2013 19:08:48    1329243

t is odd though comparing last odd quarter century with the dubs, look at their huge population and only 2 all ire in that time p we have four. Plus it would look unlikely that they will win one this year, despite underage success and a great program it's just one all ire and even that had a certain degree of luck about it,

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/02/2013 19:17:07    1329246

You were lucky to have two golden generations on the bounce and you had a man in charge that is easily up there with one of the greatest managers of all time.
If it wasn't lucky to produce those players all at the same time then why haven't you come close to reproducing the same circumstances again.

Listen they didn't all come along at the one time, the team that was successful from 84 to 92 was built incrementally, Mick Lyons, Colm O'Rourke, Joe Cassells and Getty McEntee began their careers in the 70's, the early 80's saw the likes of Martin O'Connell, Colm Coyle, Robbie O'Malley and Liam Hayes join the ranks and then the mid 80's saw players such as Brian Stafford, PJ Gillick, Dave Beggy, Bernard Flynn come on board so in actual fact you can say the building of that team took 7 to 8 years but as I stated before unless you know these things it's easy to make silly assumptions. Similarly the 96 to 01 team began building at the end of the last team with Colm Brady Tommy Dowd and Brendan Reilly being blooded in the late 80's early 90's with Colm Coyle and Martin O'Connell staying on to give valuable experience, John McDermott, Graham Geraghty and Trevor Giles began to make strides in '92 & '93 with the likes of Evan Kelly, Donal Curtis and others showing up later before '96 itself saw Mark O'Reilly, Darren Fay, Barry O' Callaghan etc come to the fore so again that time was built over a 7 to 8 year period, nothing came together at once and not many managers would have picked out those players from junior and intermediate ranks as Boylan did, again I advise you study up on the subject you speak about as you are doing yourself no justice here

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3757 - 05/02/2013 20:06:25    1329280

Some lads are having great fun slagging off the Meath lads and its tempting to join in especially since there is an element in Meath who are "not nice" and that is not a referewnce to their players or officials.

BUT even if Meath were to lose another game, 5 wins would see them with a place in the final and in Div 2, so while Monaghan & Laois might be the likely 2 at present I have seen Meath come from the back of the pack too often to write any obits in the first week of February.

With a few back from injury and a couple of the U21 team ( who are totally seperate at present) Meath will have a big say in Div 3 before the end of April.

KELF (Kildare) - Posts: 775 - 05/02/2013 20:18:56    1329290

Even when we're not doing well we're still the team that people love to hate.......that'll do for me :-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 05/02/2013 20:19:25    1329291

Htaem agreed

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/02/2013 20:28:04    1329301

A free piece of candy for the first person to spot the mistake in KELF's post...

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 05/02/2013 20:28:27    1329302

Kelf............. Laois are in Division 2............ and as for Meath i was very impressed by them when i watched one of their great wins pre 2010 on the History Channel the other night.

kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 05/02/2013 20:38:31    1329315

Bar Of Moro please

kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 05/02/2013 20:44:47    1329323

Oops !!!

Then we Biffos never really rated Laois !!!!!

KELF (Kildare) - Posts: 775 - 05/02/2013 20:59:47    1329338

kikfada
County: Louth
Posts: 767

Bar Of Moro please

For such a quick response I'll send you a whole selection box.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 06/02/2013 11:14:50    1329424