The letter might be a collectors item in the future. It could be the second last letter that Wegner signs as Arsenal manager

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 03/12/2012 11:14:23    1305650

Culann

That is typical of Irish people. This is what I am talking about ffgg.

Ps The premiership is as much part of Irish sport and Irish life as Katie Taylor is British. We Irish hate when the the Brits stake claim to our sports stars yet some of us Irish people here are staking claim to a full empire/league. Unbelievable.

By the british soccer has become part of life in Ireland not a part of Irish life as you call it. Big difference mate!

What is typical? Your response seems typical of some people on this site that respond to a person's argument by making some sort of covert insult. Am I not Irish enough for you?

I am clearly not as erudite or enlightened as you either. If you could educate meet on the differences between Irish life (in the 21st century) and life in Ireland, I might not make such uncultivated remarks in the future.

Nobody, has claimed from what I have read, that the Premier League is Irish. However, most acknowledge that it is a product with global appeal that is, for the most part, produced in the UK. Some GAA supporters clearly are not comfortable with the amount of the premiership soccer that is consumed in Ireland. That is the introverted GAA of Rule 19, Rule 21, Rule 42, the GAA that is so afraid of other (sports) that it feels like the best thing to do is ban them; a GAA with an inferiority complex. Luckily, most of use have moved beyond that. Others are struggling. Hopefully they will see the light.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 03/12/2012 14:56:20    1305798

well wenger is regarded as a great man in the world of sport..or he certainly used to be anyway!..not an inferiority complex at all..just more of the usual ranting this has turned into

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 03/12/2012 15:09:31    1305807

What is typical? Your response seems typical of some people on this site that respond to a person's argument by making some sort of covert insult. Am I not Irish enough for you?

Typical of Irish people. Abandoning their own for things Irish and American. It is happening all round you. The Irish people have their own league. They would rather support the Wnglish league. Basically they would rather follow a league where money buys success to a league where hard work and sport get you sicess. By the way, I think soccer is by far the most boring and overhyped sport going. That said I'd much rather, adn for many many reasons, that Irish people followed their own soccer instead of English socccer - just like every other country.

I am clearly not as erudite or enlightened as you either. If you could educate meet on the differences between Irish life (in the 21st century) and life in Ireland, I might not make such uncultivated remarks in the future.

That is clear.

Nobody, has claimed from what I have read, that the Premier League is Irish.

You said above that it was part of Irish life and Irish sport.

However, most acknowledge that it is a product with global appeal that is, for the most part, produced in the UK. Some GAA supporters clearly are not comfortable with the amount of the premiership soccer that is consumed in Ireland. That is the introverted GAA of Rule 19, Rule 21, Rule 42, the GAA that is so afraid of other (sports) that it feels like the best thing to do is ban them; a GAA with an inferiority complex. Luckily, most of use have moved beyond that. Others are struggling. Hopefully they will see the light.

I am not one bit comfortable with the amount of Premiership soccer that is consumed in Ireland. I have many many reasons for this. Among them are patriotic and economical reasons. I am a very proud Irishmen and I hate to see Irish society being diluted by things British and American. As I said this is happening all around us. We are losing our identity on a daily basis. When its gone there will be no getting it back.

I am not one bit afraid of other sports. I just feel that its pathetic that Irish people and media would prefer to support and promote English sport ahead of their own. Only in Ireland does this happen. I have no problem with Irish soccer, rugby, basketball, golf etc etc.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 03/12/2012 20:54:25    1306102

you must hate lads who watch the nfl and nba over irish american football and basketball so

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 03/12/2012 21:13:57    1306117

Culann.

(1) The Premier League is part of Irish sporting life unless you want to define Irish sport so narrowly that it is only sport which is played and competed in Ireland. In which case our international sporting heroes like Katy Taylor, Padraig Harrington, Brian O'Driscoll are not really sports stars at all (in their current guise) as they require international competitions to prove their worth as sports stars. Likewise, our soccer stars also head abroad to play in more competitive leagues and we support them. It is not feasible for them to stay here (I am not going to elaborate on this point ).

(2) Look up the word netiquette in a dictionary.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 03/12/2012 21:39:02    1306137

bennybunny
County: Cork
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(2) Look up the word netiquette in a dictionary.

A few others could do the same.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 03/12/2012 21:49:57    1306150

bennybunny
County: Cork
Posts: 1511

1306137 Culann.

(1) The Premier League is part of Irish sporting life unless you want to define Irish sport so narrowly that it is only sport which is played and competed in Ireland. In which case our international sporting heroes like Katy Taylor, Padraig Harrington, Brian O'Driscoll are not really sports stars at all (in their current guise) as they require international competitions to prove their worth as sports stars. Likewise, our soccer stars also head abroad to play in more competitive leagues and we support them. It is not feasible for them to stay here (I am not going to elaborate on this point ).

The English soccer league is part of sporting life in Ireland. Yes. Its not part of Irish sporting life. Don't elaborate on it.
There is no point. I do not agree with it.

Is this is a response to what I wrote above? Its just that you did not address any of my points.

(2) Look up the word netiquette in a dictionary.

Its not in the dictionary.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 04/12/2012 08:52:01    1306161

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1922

1306117 you must hate lads who watch the nfl and nba over irish american football and basketball so

Where did I say I hated anyone? Are you up to your old tricks again?

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 04/12/2012 08:52:57    1306162

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1922

1304861 yes the usual begrudgers are out in force

Only after seeing that. This is a GAA website yet you feel the need to spend most of your time telling people how good the English Premier League is.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 04/12/2012 09:15:43    1306165

bennybunny
County: Cork
Posts: 1511

1306137 Culann.

(1) The Premier League is part of Irish sporting life unless you want to define Irish sport so narrowly that it is only sport which is played and competed in Ireland. In which case our international sporting heroes like Katy Taylor, Padraig Harrington, Brian O'Driscoll are not really sports stars at all (in their current guise) as they require international competitions to prove their worth as sports stars. Likewise, our soccer stars also head abroad to play in more competitive leagues and we support them. It is not feasible for them to stay here (I am not going to elaborate on this point ).

Its a part of sporting life in Ireland. There is nothing Irish about it. That point about our boxers and our golfers, I do not agree with. These are international sports where people compete internationally. You can not compare them with national sports.

(2) Look up the word netiquette in a dictionary.

Its not in the dictionary. However, I know what it means. What have you got a problem with? Is it that I do not agree with you and that I am making points that you do not agree with?

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 04/12/2012 10:03:06    1306182

bennybunny
County: Cork
Posts: 1511

the three names you mentioned katy taylor,padraig harrington and brian o driscoll all live in ireland and play there chosen sport under the irish umberella unlike players in england who play under the english umberella.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/12/2012 10:12:28    1306183

ffgg why is that in poland germany and all these other european countrys they support their own sports first we are the only country who choose to promote english soccer ahead of any other sport played in ireland you say its a global thing countries doing this yet them other european countries dont do it like ireland.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/12/2012 10:15:34    1306184

as if needed to prove a point just look at todays so called irish independant theres more pages on kate middelton being pregnant and baby names then our own storys.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/12/2012 11:18:43    1306213

I noticed that myself hill. Aonther thing I have noticed in petrol stations/spars/centras with sit down areas they all seem to have televisions with Sky News on them. You get to see what is being debated in Westminister and you get an update on whats happening in Britain while at the same time eating your lunch. Brilliant! Only in Ireland!

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 04/12/2012 11:27:56    1306220

Ireland shares common cultural links with the UK through sport, literature, law, politics and every aspect of life ans society. These links should be embraced, this doesn't mean we can't still enjoy GAA and other uniquely Irish past times. Most people grow out the isolationist mentally by the time they are 18 and have seen some of the world

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 04/12/2012 11:46:43    1306238

Ireland shares common cultural links with the UK through sport, literature, law, politics and every aspect of life ans society. These links should be embraced, this doesn't mean we can't still enjoy GAA and other uniquely Irish past times. Most people grow out the isolationist mentally by the time they are 18 and have seen some of the world
bad.monkey , 04/12/2012 at 11:46

Britain don't share our cultural links. Its all one way traffic. We just prefer whats theirs. In my opinion, and it is a very strong opinion, we have abandoned what is ours for things mainly British but American also. We then try to justify it. Very sad. For what died the sons of Róisín?

When people take a stance like I am taking why are we always labled as things like 'isolationist mentally'? You make my views sound dirty and like a contagious disease. Have the French, the Spanish, the Russians, the Cubans etc etc got an 'isolationist mentally' also?

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 04/12/2012 11:59:36    1306242

Very well said Culann.
The "isolationist mentality" accusation is thrown about by those with an inferiority complex who lives are spent fawning the base elements of British culture.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3027 - 04/12/2012 12:14:28    1306251

Culann

Here here, more of the charm offensive that another sport has embraced upon to try and erode our culture.
For the price of a 1 class stamp Mr wengers Sec (I take it upon local promping) got a lot of publicity for his club and possible a few ticket sales
If you look at it a recent County manager had just won somebit of silverware and he was whisked away to Glasgow , Why I ask.
Would the fact that Rangers were demoted to 3rd Division and fall off in yearly ticket sales in old Donegal have anything to do with it ?

Do the Polish and east Europeans take our culture on board like what the Irish do i the UK.
I feel not

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4024 - 04/12/2012 12:18:17    1306252

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 3246

ffgg why is that in poland germany and all these other european countrys they support their own sports first we are the only country who choose to promote english soccer ahead of any other sport played in ireland you say its a global thing countries doing this yet them other european countries dont do it like ireland.

So what are the Polish and German peoples own sports?

Have they a national sporting equivalent to the GAA?

Other European countries don't do it like Ireland largely because they have professional football leagues of their own. I'd love it if we had the fanbase for the domestic league here to become fully professional and sustainable, but unfortunately most would rather spend their money in the pub roaring abuse at a tv than going to see their local team play.

As far as other European countries go, the Norwegians are mad about the Premiership too, possibly just as much as the Irish, despite having their own professional well run league with teams regularly featuring in European competition. Then again maybe they've all turned their backs on their Viking heritage...

What this has to do with a letter from Wenger to Lacey though I don't know, nice touch by the Frenchman, nice to see that some football clubs aren't as out of touch with fans as they are sometimes portrayed as being, even if the signature does look a little bit off.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3691 - 04/12/2012 12:22:11    1306255