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The Munster championship might have the 'potential' to be a cracking competition. Unfortunately it won't be all that great if this year is anything to go by. People are quickly realizing that winning the Munster championship is not what it used to be. Only three times in the last 20 years have the Munster champions actually won the All-Ireland. The crowds at this year's Munster championship were very low. In other recessions (in the 1980s for example) Cork and Tipp were always packed to rafters. There was plenty of room this year. The games were very tippy tappy affairs with little intensity. Players know that Munster championship victories are not that important. Winning the All-Ireland is the only show in town. In terms of winning that, one team is head an shoulders above the rest. It is oh so predictable. Kilkenny will get there is September regardless of what happens before. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 14/10/2012 19:50:05 1283039 Link 0 |
Bennybunny, would you (and anyone else) support the abolition of the provincial championships in hurling? Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 16/10/2012 15:11:50 1284018 Link 0 |
Pinkie Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 16/10/2012 17:53:04 1284130 Link 0 |
Marlon_JD Topa_the_left (Antrim) - Posts: 250 - 16/10/2012 19:51:15 1284178 Link 0 |
What are Portaferry's chances in the Ulster final? They had an impressive win over the Derry champions, Swatragh. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 16/10/2012 20:07:10 1284185 Link 0 |
I am not in favour of getting rid of the Munster championship. I am in favour of getting rid of the backdoor. Getting rid of the backdoor might give some meaning back to the munster championship. If Tipp played KK in the first round of the championship in some champions league style game I don't think there would any more interest than, say, if they played in a league game-it seems we are only interested in knockout games in this country-the big event. If there is to be a back door I would have it for division 2 teams only (or something like that). To me the backdoor was to help weaker teams. What it has done is helped stronger teams and ruined the provincial system. Either it helps weaker teams or it doesn't. If it doesn't then scrap it. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 16/10/2012 20:50:16 1284199 Link 0 |
Ya I'd agree with you Bennybunny if that was the way we were to go, would certainly bring back the provincial championships. But overall I'd prefer Marlon_JD's proposal. I think the league could be reduced even further and a champions league style system could be brought in, say 3 groups of 4. Similar to AFL top teams qualify and play each other with losers playing winners of a round-robin between teams finishing 2nd. Or something like that! Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 16/10/2012 21:54:40 1284232 Link 0 |
How bout 2 groups of 6. Each group plays a round robin. Top 2 play in league semis and get a bye to AI quarter finals. The other 8 teams go into an open draw for the championship first round. Winners play top 4 teams from league in quarters. Losers play in a relegation playoffs, with the loser going down to div 3. Winner of div3/Lory Meagher Championship comes up. It's basically a template of the Kilkenny senior club championship. Get rid of Munster and Leinster championships. Games can start in April richiescats (USA) - Posts: 420 - 17/10/2012 15:56:10 1284481 Link 0 |
The 'champions league' style format sounds nice but I am not sure if the Irish public has the stomach for it (or more to the point has the cash to pay for so many games). We would also have to factor in club championships. Kilkenny and Galway only played 5 games in this year's championship yet the county finals are still going on. RichieCats idea might not be too bad-that is making the championship dependent on league performance - or else just scrap the league altogether possibly! a league followed by another league will not go down well though... bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 17/10/2012 18:34:26 1284595 Link 0 |
bennybunny Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 17/10/2012 19:29:46 1284637 Link 0 |
MarlonJD bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 17/10/2012 20:32:25 1284683 Link 0 |