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McGuinness for Celtic

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I am no fan of Celtic and that sectarian SPL, and soccer and gaelic
football should never mix, but I wish Mc Guniness well at his new job.
I can't see how he can stay at Donegal as well, and if he tries to,
there could be another few 'Kevin Cassidy' sagas in Donegal, but
then again, the Donegal 'obsession' with Celtic could be in his favour!
Its Great news for the rest of us! I am delighted!
Good man Jimmy. ;)

On a side note, how will Jimmy address the endless foot-passing in soccer!
It will be new to him! ;)

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 09/11/2012 18:05:40    1295506

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every other county manager in the country has a job, according to some of the posters on this forum jim shouldn't have one, there is no reason jim can't do the celtic job two to three day's a week and still manage the donegal team. theres a direct flight from donegal to glasgow daily. as a proud naomh conaill man, a proud donegal man and a celtic supporter i wish jim the best of luck in his new job (although he wont need it) and i look forward to donegal trying to defend our all ireland title with the added knowledge jim will pick up in glasgow.

tirconaillabu (Donegal) - Posts: 85 - 09/11/2012 18:41:46    1295520

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I am sad to see such a talented man leave GAA coaching which is what I believe will eventually happen, however it is a tribute to the quality of manager we have in the organisation. I cannot fault him for taking whatever paid employment he can get in the current climate and would like to wish him every success.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 09/11/2012 19:30:15    1295546

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hill16no1man
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no far from it but i was born with the attitude of if you love something enough to get involved knowing you want get paid that you should stick to your beliefs and that means not being bought.again the situation of money is rearing its head would he take up this role in scotland if the 150,000 cheque wasnt flashed at him?



Your an unemployed man with a wife and three young children. Your offered a part time job offering (apparently) 150,000... What would you do?????

up_donegal (Donegal) - Posts: 659 - 09/11/2012 19:33:20    1295548

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now your resorting to taking shots at celtic of course they are a big club their league has diminished but they have a 60,000 seater stadium which they get great attendences for and have a massive support base and are former european champions so explain how they are not a big club?....how has mcguiness left gaa?...gilroy quit on dublin for the money according to your logic....jim mcguiness has a psychology degree does he not and took a relatively similar job at a soccer club which is where he could utilize the degree and his experties on a part time basis please explain?...it is a clear double standard...both took highly paid jobs however one quit his county and one did not yet you criticize the one who stays?..is a man not allowed take a job which he is qualified to do to support his family?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 09/11/2012 19:55:26    1295562

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in your opinion he wont stay on as manager yet it is being widely reported that he will so why should anybody listen to you when it is clearly stated that he will be staying on as manager that is the fact so please stop trying to say how much time he will have im sure jim who has brought more to gaelic football in recent years than anybody can answer that question himself

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 09/11/2012 20:00:43    1295568

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Next year Donegal should be OK. But I fear he will eventually go full time with them. He's going to earn 150k a year for 3 days work a week. Can't see him staying with Donegal as long as he would of now unless he wins the All-Ireland every year.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 09/11/2012 20:02:03    1295569

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up donegal jim should take a small little job off the county board that pays poorly and he has no interest in instead according to the logic being displayed here

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 09/11/2012 20:15:59    1295575

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Well done Sir. I know how hard it is in this country, as i have to go back to Sydney on a full time basis for employment. This is a major achievement for Jimmy Mcguiness. He did a suberb job with Domegal and wish him all the best. The GAA has lost a good man.

kerryrowz (Kerry) - Posts: 833 - 09/11/2012 20:36:18    1295586

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I think Jimmy will do a great job at Celtic. The man will be a fantastic addition to Lennon, i think he is a very astute signing.

I hope he tries to stay on at Donegal, he is a gifted manger who has proved himself without a doubt in GAA circles. It will be interesting to see how he progresses up in Glasgow. A Question for you GAA men on site, is he the first GAA manager to try his luck at Soccer?

Mancirish (UK) - Posts: 2200 - 09/11/2012 22:01:53    1295616

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Neil Lennon spoke very well about this appointment last night and stated clearly Jimmy's role is as a "Consultant" (Flexibility) and that it would not impinge on his work with Donegal which is something both Celtic and Jimmy are determined on.
Hope the county board support him on this.

Jimmy will now be paid to be a performance coach with the u-20's imagine being paid to develop youth in Sport. Not sure how the press have come up with the 150k€/ £120k sterling salary given that neither party would want to divulge but...

As for Celtic and it's stature - Xavi said before Wednesday night that the Celtic fans were the greatest he'd ever encountered. I don't think there's any doubt he's done the right thing professionally.
Hope works out for all parties.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 10/11/2012 10:31:24    1295623

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ffgg
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1295405 its not a label culann the man has shown this in relation to kilkenny and sweetman..he has a double standard for gilroy and mcguiness i wonder why?..what has mcguiness done wrong culann why does he deserve to be attacked?..changed his job is it while remaining manager of donegal?


You did label him and you have a habit of labling people very negitively when they express opinions different to your own. It shows an intolerence by you and it can be quite annoying. Do or make what you want out of that. Regarding McGuiness, as I have said above, I think he is one of the best managers ever to grace the game. I have also recognised that he is qualified in coaching and in different aspects of sports and say fair play to the man for going to Celtic - and that from a man who thinks professional soccer is one of the most boring and worst sports in the world. My opinions differ to Hills but I won't be calling him 'anti' this and that and amking assumptions about him. He is entitled to his opinion and I can see why he holds such an opinion, especially in the case of Kilkenny.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 10/11/2012 14:46:24    1295680

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well the man clearly lives up to the label on almost every occasion so i wont apologize for it he shows a clear lack of respect to those he attacks so why should he receive any himself?....as for you your happy to label people who follow soccer and have these 'foreign influences' so dont be so hypocritical please......what ever about kilkenny this case is a lot different as the man is actually staying on or that is what is being reported by both the papers and jim himself...my issue is how pat gilroy receives different treatment yet he also left for big money why is this the case?..why does the fact that the job is in a sport matter?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 10/11/2012 15:21:47    1295694

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well the man clearly lives up to the label on almost every occasion so i wont apologize for it he shows a clear lack of respect to those he attacks so why should he receive any himself?....as for you your happy to label people who follow soccer and have these 'foreign influences' so dont be so hypocritical please......

bla bla bla. I told you on the above post you can do or make what you want out of what I said. Regarding me I never labled anyone. I said english soccer was not Irish and said other British and American things were not Irish. Thats not a lable, that a fact. I expressed a lot of opinions on Irshness and you started name calling and labling. Thats another fact. You were the one who was assuptious and who true out the lables - anti british, inward thinking, someone who didn't live down the country bla bla bla. All ignorant assumptions. Grow up and learn to debate and discuss without labling and name calling. Now, i'll leave you with the final word on this - if you want it.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 10/11/2012 15:33:15    1295696

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again resorting to attacking me....you accuse people of using american terms and such yet never back it up just clueless ramblings as usual from you..bunch of spoilt brats you called them how is that not a label tell me?you accuse them of chanting in english accents also with nothing to back it up...none of these things you have said are facts they are just taking shots at people who follow soccer...so please come back when you can actually debate instead of taking shots at people with nothing back it up...i backed up what i said about hill as there is various proof to show he is very anti other sports in relation to the gaa most notably soccer as why would he take such an issue with a job jim mcguiness took?...a job is a job and an unemployed man has a right to earn a living to support his family why does the fact that the job is in a sport matter?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 10/11/2012 16:10:59    1295711

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and you take various shots at me in the post so who needs to grow up inform me?...less of the anger please..you sought to pick a fight with me on here so please deal with it

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 10/11/2012 16:18:35    1295714

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ffgg
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.my issue is how pat gilroy receives different treatment yet he also left for big money why is this the case?..why does the fact that the job is in a sport matter?

Gilroy went back to his same job after his contract with Dublin was up. what are you on about left for big money, he sold his company years ago for a nice few bob.
As for mc guinness good luck to the man , it will be interesting to see how he gets on doing both roles.
Sad part is ,the more professional in approach the gaa becomes, the more these people just like kilkenny will be in the public eye and poached, which is great for the individuals but ultimately the supporters loss.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 10/11/2012 16:29:53    1295717

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im not saying gilroy did but the logic being displayed here if it is applied to gilroy means he left for the money as he left dublin for his job but nobody seems to have an issue with it as why would anyone?..a man has a right to a living?..why cant the same be applied to jim mcguiness a job is a job..what was the point of getting those degrees if he was never able to put them to use..that is the issue i have

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 10/11/2012 16:50:10    1295721

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The Gaa is a non paying job and takes up alot of time. Most managers just get petrol expenses and they do it out of the love for the sport. However Jim has been offered a carrer at celtic the biggest club in scotland with a wage that most of us on here will dream of and it would have been foolish if he did not take it. I think he should stay on with donegal for 2013 and see how it goes.

Jackos_Wacko (Kerry) - Posts: 417 - 10/11/2012 17:05:18    1295726

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Jim is staying with Donegal. it's 2 day a week. he won't miss any training sessions or games.
well done to him. everyone in Donegal is happy for him well done Jim

Cement (Donegal) - Posts: 5 - 10/11/2012 17:31:22    1295732

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