2011 All Ireland football semi-final full-time score:

Dublin 0-8
Donegal 0-6

Nuff said.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1258 - 24/08/2012 20:31:37    1251462

ballydalane
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 6

1251462 2011 All Ireland football semi-final full-time score:

Dublin 0-8
Donegal 0-6

Nuff said.

the scoreline of one game is hardly a good yardstick to meaasure how god or bad a game is

1903 All Ireland hurling Final

London 1-5 - 0-4 Cork

Which proves exactly nothing either

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 24/08/2012 20:47:46    1251474

ballydalane
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 6

1251462 2011 All Ireland football semi-final full-time score:

Dublin 0-8
Donegal 0-6

Nuff said.

ye you've said too much already.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 24/08/2012 21:01:17    1251487

Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
Posts: 3630

1249933
There is a LOT more skill in kicking a heavy ball out of the hands on a wet day over the bar from 30 yards at an angle than ANYTHING you will do with a hurl in your hand and a tiny ball that will travel 80 yards with a good smack!!
This notion that hurling is more skillful is nonsense. I will tell you what it is, its quicker, a lot quicker, and its pretty obvious why!! Cos a fella can smack the ball half a mile down a pitch in one go!
So saying that its more skillful, because its essentially quicker, is like saying Usain Bolt is a better athlete then Mo Farrah.....cos he is quicker...???

Like most Dubs I grew up playing both sports. There is a lot more skill involved in playing hurling than football imo. You must of been some amazing hurler Liam if you think that smacking the sliotar over the bar from 80 yards under pressure is easy.

Take two people who've never played any sport before. It will be a lot easier to get them competitive to Junior standard football than hurling. There are players plating inter-county football who have very little skill as they can survive in the game through fitness and strength. This can never happen in hurling as anyone with low skill levels will be exposed.

I love football and hurling. There are of course hurling snobs, no doubt about it but in my experience they are far outnumbered by those who believe the GAA to only consist of Football and do all in their power to keep one sport down. Dublin GAA from the 1960s up until the late 90s is a perfect example of it.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13841 - 25/08/2012 11:45:25    1251581

ballydalane
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 6

1251462 2011 All Ireland football semi-final full-time score:

Dublin 0-8
Donegal 0-6

Nuff said.

thats probably more then kilkenny scored all year!!!!

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/08/2012 11:47:49    1251586

if hurling is so much more skillfull then football then why are kilkenny so far behind any other county at football why cant they master the skills of football ?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/08/2012 11:48:59    1251587

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 2343

1251587
if hurling is so much more skillfull then football then why are kilkenny so far behind any other county at football why cant they master the skills of football ?

C'mon man.

You're going to use the fact that Kilkenny can't master the skills of football to compete at the top level as some sort of proof, really man, one county?

Do you want to go through the list of counties who cannot sufficiently master the skills of hurling to compete at the top level? Big hint, the list comprises of more than one county.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13841 - 25/08/2012 12:21:03    1251598

MesAmis
County: Dublin
Posts: 4844

1251598
hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 2343

1251587
if hurling is so much more skillfull then football then why are kilkenny so far behind any other county at football why cant they master the skills of football ?

C'mon man.

You're going to use the fact that Kilkenny can't master the skills of football to compete at the top level as some sort of proof, really man, one county?

Do you want to go through the list of counties who cannot sufficiently master the skills of hurling to compete at the top level? Big hint, the list comprises of more than one county.


no my point here is simple they are two differant games and have differant skill sets so how can you compare people who play one sport to be more skillfull then somebody who plays another as both sports need a player to be good at the skills of the sport and we keep hearing on here that hurling is far more skillfull which i find very strange how one can measure a skill from one sport to a skill in another and its value!!!
i previously stated how somebody can determine that handpass in hurling is a better skill then a pass in rugby with the hand as they are both a neccessary skill in their sports

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/08/2012 12:53:43    1251612

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 2344

no my point here is simple they are two differant games and have differant skill sets so how can you compare people who play one sport to be more skillfull then somebody who plays another as both sports need a player to be good at the skills of the sport and we keep hearing on here that hurling is far more skillfull which i find very strange how one can measure a skill from one sport to a skill in another and its value!!!
i previously stated how somebody can determine that handpass in hurling is a better skill then a pass in rugby with the hand as they are both a neccessary skill in their sports


If that was your point then fine. However my original post was in responce to Liam's assertion that football is more skillful than hurling.

Hurling is a more difficult sport to get the hang of when starting out imo. I hurl for the club and from time to time I line out for the footballers. There'd be gaps of months, once over a year, between my football appearances but I always do fine, get the odd score even. If I was to go that length of time without picking up a hurl I wouldn't do half as well.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13841 - 25/08/2012 13:13:39    1251622

seems readin a few posts here,some are ignorant as to what hurling is as a game,pastime and what it provides in entertainment value.I have attended 4 hurling games already this weekend,with 3 or 4 to go. Senior, u10, u14 and i thoroughly enjoyed every game,as i almost always do.Those that dont get to see hurling games on a regular basis are missing out.Great club games,and guaranteed skills on view in every game,some better than others.Ihave no great interest in football,but im not against it no more than im against basketball,it just doesnt interest me that much.For hurling people,inter county is the public side , its what non hurling people witness and judge the sport on,but its only a small part of what hurling is. The U10 Hurling BLITZ i watched this morning is what makes hurling great, Cappamore,Ahane,Croom,Glenroe,Garryspillane,Caherline,Murroe-Boher,Doon etc all in attendance and it was fantastic,100s of kids,Brilliant skills on view.Long may it continue, Luimneach ABU

eastgael (Limerick) - Posts: 629 - 25/08/2012 15:23:23    1251682

MesAmis
County: Dublin
Posts: 4848

1251622
hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 2344

no my point here is simple they are two differant games and have differant skill sets so how can you compare people who play one sport to be more skillfull then somebody who plays another as both sports need a player to be good at the skills of the sport and we keep hearing on here that hurling is far more skillfull which i find very strange how one can measure a skill from one sport to a skill in another and its value!!!
i previously stated how somebody can determine that handpass in hurling is a better skill then a pass in rugby with the hand as they are both a neccessary skill in their sports


If that was your point then fine. However my original post was in responce to Liam's assertion that football is more skillful than hurling.

Hurling is a more difficult sport to get the hang of when starting out imo. I hurl for the club and from time to time I line out for the footballers. There'd be gaps of months, once over a year, between my football appearances but I always do fine, get the odd score even. If I was to go that length of time without picking up a hurl I wouldn't do half as well.

but you are just one individual,i have played with plenty of guys who trained all year with the footballers and played the matches but were just ok at it and then these same guys would go out the following week without any hurling training and stand out far more they were much better at it then football despite the fact they had trained for football during the week,its down to each individual some people are naturaly good at most sports others find there good at one or two jst it doesnt mean one is more skillfull then the other it just means your better at one

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/08/2012 15:36:53    1251688

Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
Posts: 3630

1249933 There is a LOT more skill in kicking a heavy ball out of the hands on a wet day over the bar from 30 yards at an angle than ANYTHING you will do with a hurl in your hand and a tiny ball that will travel 80 yards with a good smack!!

Have you ever played hurling, or tried to be accurate with a pass with a hurl and sliothar, both codes have skills ye cant be dismissive of one that easily.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 25/08/2012 16:17:46    1251713

AthCliath
County: Dublin
Posts: 908

Reading through Liam's posts on the skills of hurling it seems that hurling must have come very natural to him as he thinks it was so easy.

Maybe we could've done with him in Portlaoise this summer.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13841 - 25/08/2012 16:44:29    1251722

MesAmis
County: Dublin
Posts: 4850

1251722 AthCliath
County: Dublin
Posts: 908

Reading through Liam's posts on the skills of hurling it seems that hurling must have come very natural to him as he thinks it was so easy.

Maybe we could've done with him in Portlaoise this summer.

Think liams confusing hurling with golf. though i do think their is a bit of snobbery to be fair.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 25/08/2012 17:03:32    1251729

Slayer, wrong on 2 points 1. You say people keep disagreeing? There are as many people on this thread agreeing with me as disagreeing. (Sign of a good debate!)

Ya, I said people were disagreeing. Not all of them, but some. My point is that opinion is divided.

I just wonder to what level have you played both games at? I briefly played Senior in both. I found football more difficult to play. I also found it more physical. The amount of body punches a lad can take in a game of football is no joke.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6603 - 25/08/2012 18:30:39    1251776

It's not snobbery at all, but a huge inferiority complex that has some hurling people the way they are. Very similar to how the rugby league crowd in Northern England drone on about their game relative to its Union cousin- protesting too much I think.
And as for the skill argument, Shane Ryan and Conal Keaney leaving football to concentrate on hurling tells its own story.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1267 - 25/08/2012 19:52:39    1251797

The last thing we need is Dissident dubs

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 25/08/2012 21:23:38    1251845

Best 2 field games in the world, we should just count ourselves lucky that we can watch and play both.

dufferman (Down) - Posts: 158 - 25/08/2012 21:30:01    1251847

dufferman
County: Down
Posts: 92

1251847 Best 2 field games in the world, we should just count ourselves lucky that we can watch and play both

does it matter whether they are they best, second last or whatever, if you enjoy them play/watch them and let everyone to their own.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 25/08/2012 21:35:37    1251854

There is undoubted snobbery in both codes. I played and coach both and although i was better at football i enjoyed playing hurling more. In my county hurling is virtually sneered at simply in my view because most are fed a constant diet of football. Our club had a summer camp this week where 242 children engaged in football, hurling, camogie as well as the scor disciplines of dancing singing novelty act and irish. Take a look at the photos on omagh st endas facebook page and you'll see 3 tyrone senior footballers having a ball coaching hurling. What i would call proper gaa!!

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 26/08/2012 09:54:01    1251887