McAnarney captain? I guess he is 100% in the team now,bad call in my view..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2012 09:33:47    1188707

Anyone remember the score he last time we played Carlow? It was in either 2008/09,I was there and we gave them a good hammering,but a prize for anyone who remembers the score ! :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2012 09:45:43    1188718

not many of us would have Mc in the team,so a stranger decision to make him captain. Obviously Banty has him down as a definite starter

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2012 09:48:15    1188720

Very strange to make a player who is not guaranted his place captain of the team.mcanarney has not been playing well in my opinion and would not be in my starting 15 but banty seem to think otherwise

bobjaffacake (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 07/06/2012 10:13:55    1188740

meath v carlow 2008 meath won by 20points,

baker (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 07/06/2012 10:19:58    1188744

Its prety clear now that banty will start same 6 defenders that finished the wicklow game.the only change id say he will make to team is bray and gilsenan coming in for ward and forde/collins

bobjaffacake (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 07/06/2012 10:24:22    1188747

Jinxie
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Janey Jinxie - come down off that high horse of yours - chillax

"The referee is unknow with the square ball rule? What dya mean by that? " - I mean referee on Sunday Barry Cassidy - who knows how he will react to the new rule - we should have beaten Kildare last year, except GG was ruled in the square, when replays showed it was a valid score.

And as for the rule not being tested yet, what about the Longford Laois game 3 weeks ago? Didnt see that , that ref was Michael Duffy - my point is different refs will react differently. An All Black coach was in Ireland recently to assess catching skills said his impression of the game was centred on the inconsistency of referee calls - I was at Croker for the 2 games last week - the new square rule wasnt tested at all in 140minutes.

RoyalSt.Pat (Meath) - Posts: 333 - 07/06/2012 10:25:04    1188749

With one of the best goal poachers around in Joe, do you not think we will benefit from the new rule. We should try and take advantage now. If the old rule only applies to dead balls (sideline/free kicks etc), the new one in open play means there isn't any square ball rule to concern refs. This means there is no decision to be made. Allow play to continue. The only issue now is how protected or otherwise are goalkeepers, especially if there is a large gathering of players in his area.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 07/06/2012 10:53:10    1188768

RoyalSt.Pat
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1188749 Jinxie
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Janey Jinxie - come down off that high horse of yours - chillax

"The referee is unknow with the square ball rule? What dya mean by that? " - I mean referee on Sunday Barry Cassidy - who knows how he will react to the new rule - we should have beaten Kildare last year, except GG was ruled in the square, when replays showed it was a valid score.

And as for the rule not being tested yet, what about the Longford Laois game 3 weeks ago? Didnt see that , that ref was Michael Duffy - my point is different refs will react differently. An All Black coach was in Ireland recently to assess catching skills said his impression of the game was centred on the inconsistency of referee calls - I was at Croker for the 2 games last week - the new square rule wasnt tested at all in 140minutes.


How is anyone on a high horse? I simply asked you what you meant by the comment. Nothing more than that.
How do you percieve that to be in some way condescending?

You point about the ref and the square ball somewhat contradicts itself.
Your questioning how this particular ref will react to the rule. Then you say you havent seen it tested at all. So essentially, you dont know how ANY ref will react, not just this one.

Do you believe that the ref or the squareball rule is something Meath need to be concerning themselves with before the game?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 07/06/2012 11:00:31    1188777

ziggy32001
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1188718 Anyone remember the score he last time we played Carlow? It was in either 2008/09,I was there and we gave them a good hammering,but a prize for anyone who remembers the score ! :)

Cant remember the exact score but think it was about 1-23/1-24 to 0-08. From what I remember tho, Carlow went 2 or 3 points to no score up at the beginning but Meath steamrolled them after that but it was a shocking boring game it a virtually empty Croke park.
Think it was Longford or Offaly v Wexford on before hand, but there was scarcely 15k in the place.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 07/06/2012 11:04:22    1188784

If someone dangerous like Joe was to camp inside the 21 would that not bring the fullback and sweeper closer to goal and leave more room for kicking points and running at the opposition defence? Think if exploited rightly the lack of a square ball rule in open play can benefit in more than goalscoring.
Remains to be seen

rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 07/06/2012 11:14:22    1188790

ziggy32001 Jinxie

score was 1.25 to 0.8 and game before was mcgeeneys first championship game with kildare which they lost to wicklow 0.13 to 0.9

philipb323 (Meath) - Posts: 146 - 07/06/2012 12:04:15    1188823

worth a try,if you put Joe in front of the goalkeeper,it may confuse the defence,even if he is just standing there,as rath says,it could create more space..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2012 12:27:37    1188846

Rath-togh -
my point exactly - no team in Croker last weekend seemed to have changed the way they play with the new square rule (I was half expecting to see Longford/Louth forwards especially poaching in the square)..at some points, Louth had not one player up front, loading defence instead.

So my point to Jinxie is not whether Meath should worry about it, rather have they a strategy to exploit the new rule? eg. ie draw defenders out , and leave the square free, or leave one forward stand alone in the square. As for the referee interpretation, who knows as you say, but I suspect a call on this will be news before too long.

RoyalSt.Pat (Meath) - Posts: 333 - 07/06/2012 12:36:26    1188855

What exactly is to be exploited by it tho?

Leave Joe standing on the keepers toes for 70 minutes in the hope he'll fist in anything that drops short?
Does the possibility of that working outweigh the fact that you would then be losing him out the field for the game?

Other than that its a case of play the game as normal, IF theres a goal scored from a look ball into the box, grand we'll take it, but I think a pretty pessimistic view of what our forwards can do if thats what we are hoping for.
Id rather they worked at exploiting areas of the Carlow defence and create scores from distances and if possible great proper goal chances that involve an actual shot on goal.

To me, trying to put a focus on scoring goals from inside the small square is a bit short sighted.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 07/06/2012 13:14:26    1188885

If u ask me joe should camp inside the 21 in all games anyway because hes not mobile enought too be comming out the field.remember we tried joe on the forty last year and it didnt work cos he didnt have the pace

bobjaffacake (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 07/06/2012 13:20:51    1188892

Was mac not voted our best player last year?! He was excellent against Galway and in the 2nd Kildare game. Def better in a central position rather than as a man marker

ki ki musampa (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 07/06/2012 14:06:17    1188943

Jinxie

My suggestion said nothing about Joe staying on the goalkeeper's toes, it suggested when that he be inside the 21 before making any run to make himself available. Given that he is invariably moved out to centre half forward for periods of games I don't see how this would inhibit him at all. How many point chances drop into the goalkeeper's hands/chest in a game and set up an attack for the opposition? These need not go unchallenged anymore either if there's someone within a realistic distance to arrive under, catch break or punch them. This squareball rule is potentially a massive game changer and we are one of the best equipt teams to exploit it. I just hope we don't miss the boat!

rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 07/06/2012 14:26:37    1188960

jinxie

Joe has many strengths but undoubtably one of his biggest is he's a handful for any fullback and one of the best in the country under a high ball in, he shouldn't stand in there for 70 mins but without doubt we should test the goalie and full back of carlow and then kildare with towering ball in a few times give them something to worry about, we have good natural forwards and a full back line worried about a high ball in dropping back will free up room for these players

Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 07/06/2012 14:35:18    1188968

It is a potential game-changer - I'm not saying I support it, or it is specific to this game v Carlow - but it cannot be ignored by Banty/Evans.
eg it's now allowed that Carlow put a 6'7'' Donaghy on top of the Meath small square to challenge / fist the lobs usually handled by the keeper..

Anyone know what was the rationale for the rule change at Congress? Make the game "more exciting" to neutrals, keepers gettin too much protection, GG's disallowed "goal" last year v Kildare...so far, it seems to be ignored anyway

RoyalSt.Pat (Meath) - Posts: 333 - 07/06/2012 14:42:55    1188973