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Two hundred ideas to improve the GAA

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Just looking through old threads and came across this one. Anyone else got idea's that could make an improvement on something that currently annoys you.
Was surprised that this thread didnt catch on and more idea's posted

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/11/2012 15:58:16    1303485

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Bring back the Archbishop of Cashel throwing the ball/sliotar in at the start of the All Irelands

juniorbsub (Wexford) - Posts: 646 - 27/11/2012 17:13:52    1303529

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Finish the All-Ireland club championship in one calendar year so that players can have a proper break for Christmas and be refreshed for a new season in February/March.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3070 - 27/11/2012 18:00:38    1303555

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allow palyers to play for 2 clubs in one year, for example someone from donegal in college or working in cork should have the option to represent the local cork club in say the league and their own club for the donegal championship, reducing travel or worse, having to give up playing

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5331 - 27/11/2012 19:18:53    1303593

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hill16 should be patrolled more and stewards should be made more aware of their surroundings its an amazing spot and the young lad loves it too but going to matches and finding yourself stuck beside some baboon lighting up a joint with 10+ lads waiting on standbye for their go is very off putting most times this happens the stewards just turn a blind eye when their eyes should be wide open to this going on especially in a family enviroment..

p.s. great thread ormondbannerman spot on....

dubbydave. (Dublin) - Posts: 3927 - 27/11/2012 19:34:44    1303599

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-Get rid of replays altogether. So come up with a rule on how a drawn match AFTER extra time is decided.
Option 1- Start another period of ET and the first team to score wins.
Option 2- Penalties. Cruel but that's life.
Option 3- Point Free taking. Like what they are doing for the Sigerson Cup next season.
I think option 1 or 2 would be more exciting
-County boards to draw up a master club fixture list at the start of the year and stick to it. Croke park to assist by also preparing a properly structured master fixture list.

jimmyjojo (Donegal) - Posts: 85 - 27/11/2012 19:46:24    1303606

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Scrap the toe-up rule.
Scrap the rule allowing players to fist it over the bar.

Either have the championship based on Champions League format, OR at least make a level playing field i.e a north, south, east, west province system.

More coverage for college football. The standard is high, but it doesn't get enough coverage.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 27/11/2012 20:08:26    1303617

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Standard pricing for games across counties and codes.

You should know what you're going to be charged before you go to games regardless of whether its club or county (at least at senior and intermediate).

Admission prices should be up beside the list of fixtures. All other codes you know what you're going to be charged going to a game.

Also the season ticket should be widened out to incorporate more games.

The GAA has improved in this regard but there are still discpreancies particularly at club level.

Stuckinthepast (Galway) - Posts: 472 - 27/11/2012 20:40:39    1303640

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Change the all Ireland structure to a first round 1 and 2 seed open draw with the winners being grouped into 4 groups of 4 with the the and the losers playing and all Ireland B competition
The top 2 in each group of the A completion qualify for the all Ireland quarter finals
Closed fist only handpass

bernardmessi (Dublin) - Posts: 182 - 27/11/2012 21:27:44    1303667

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I agree with Hill16 that we shouldnt be trying to change all the rules of our game, maybe with the exception of cutting out cynical fouling, diving, time wasting and other sneaky ways of cheating.

One thing I wouldnt love see brought to the GAA that wouldnt affect the play of actual matches is a citing regime brought in by the CCCC so that players can be punished properly for their misdemeanours, and I dont mean just the big teams that get televised, which is usually the case, there should be no bias in the suspensions.

CaisleanCnucha (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 27/11/2012 21:35:11    1303671

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Give both football and hurling a chance. Give players who play both sports a chance. Stop pretending that they are not two completely different sports, with only a few basic similarities and to a large extent completely different skill sets. It's a difficult task but this is what I propose:

1. A separate season for each intercounty season. This season would last approximately 4 months. There would be no League but a championship that would give all counties plenty of games.

2. The football seaon could run from the begining of March to the end of June. Matches to be played most weekends up until the latter stages of the championship.
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3. During this time frame, the club hurling championship could take place in each county. Midweek games should become the norm. (There would still be difficulties with this plan but far less than current set up).

4. The hurling championship would run from July to October. Likewise the club football championship would run in all counties during the same period.

5. A format that would give all counties 10-15 games each season minimum.

6. The following year the seaons could be reversed i.e. intercounty hurling season first etc. This would mean that eg a hurling season would follow a hurling season after the winter break, giving more continuity to both sports at both levels...

7. The all-ireland club championship could still continue as usual between November to February though a complete winter break may be preferable

PT109 (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 28/11/2012 21:20:15    1304118

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juniorbsub
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1303529 Bring back the Archbishop of Cashel throwing the ball/sliotar in at the start of the All Irelands

nice one yes I agree it would be nice to see that back

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 29/11/2012 09:00:30    1304145

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Intercounty league to last from Jan to March.

Intercounty championship to last from June to August.

Provincial championships to be totally scrapped and knockout 32 county open draw.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2592 - 29/11/2012 13:13:01    1304298

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We are at 100 ideas by my count. well done everyone on their suggestions
ideas 1 to 30 are below
1. change structure of all ireland senior championships to champions league formats
2. reduce further the u12 go games championship. dont have specific groups. have 1 night a week in each county/division which is u12 night and several clubs go to 1 club and play 4 or 5 games against other clubs. the following week each club goes elsewhere and plays a completly different group of clubs. have no finals day at all
3. market schools cup comps like the harty cup better, they are an incredibly high standard yet GAA media puts nowhere near enough coverage on them
4. Provincial winners to get home advantage in championship.
5. Id condense the championship to run over 2 months.
8 weeks of dedicated weekends to inter county.
No replays
6. Get rid of the hand pass score
7. scrap provincial championships or play them as a different competion seperate from the All Ireland
8. Yellow card for any keeper attempting to influence/distract an umpire by flagging shots as wide.
9. Bring in the TMO ref for all inter county games
10. Scrap extra time and go straight to penalties, would be far more exciting.
11. Create a season long all ireland club league.
12. Minimise the number of Consecutive handpasses in a row
13. Goalies can't go outside the 14 yard box
14. Introduce the 'mark' to encourage high fielding
15. penalise diving
16. Remonstrate with the ref and you get an automatic yellow card!
17. the time keeping should be done like in womens football
18. Footblocks by keepers should only be penalised when its dangerous play not when the keeper blocks a shot with his feet
and no players near him.
19. Penalise professional interchange fouling. This is the practice where one player fouls usually outside scoring range, they take turns, no-one gets red-carded and teams are prevented from running at or getting momentum
20. End the farce wherby three, four and five players can surround a player with the ball and they automaticallly get a free.
21. Enforce the rule that keepers are not allowed to leave their line before a penalty is struck
22. Encourage past players to become referees
23. Allow fans on the pitch after games
24. Allow season ticket holders to decide if they want to go to a cheaper area of the stand
25. Do something lobbying with regards the fact that you cant get TV3 on digital up north (therefore we dont get to see alot of televised games)
26. Black card/name recorded for checking a player running without the ball, i.e. using anything other than the shoulder to take the momentum out of a runner.
27. 2 points for long range points taken (e.g.40 metres at senior, 30 metres at underage)
28. Play club championships (Senior/Inter/Junior) during the summer and not in the muck of autumn/winter
29. No drawn games, i.e. advantage given to most attacking team, e.g. the team with largest no. of points from play,
then largest no. of individual scorers, then largest number of wides, then least no. of red/yellow cards, etc.
30. Two referees.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/11/2012 14:07:58    1304337

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ideas 31-50
31. And maybe if you receive the ball from hand pass you must kick or something like that. Just something to make
players kick the ball more.
32. let managers challenge a decision, like in american football, get so many per game, just have video ref for that
33. any fans stepping out of line during games depending on severity of the act they should be named and shamed ie.
fighting,drunk and disorderly throwing etc.
34. games to be played over 80 minutes, consisting of 4x20minute quarters/turnarounds with a break only after
40 minutes/half time.
35. no replacement of red carded players if a game goes into extra time, this is NOT a new game it's a continuation
of a the same game. a replay is a NEW game.
36. Adapted this to a degree from rugby. Many rugby clubs traditionally go to a club in england/wales on tour
every 2nd year around easter. This is great for creating friendships beyond the football pitch
If not abroad, to places like london, anywhere in UK. create links between football clubs in antrim and cork or
kerry and donegal for example where a club could go up on a bank holiday weekend. play a game and go out 1 or 2
nights in the local town/village. the following year the visit is switched and the club that did the
hosting goes on tour
37. yellow cards to carry over in the championship, anyone accumulating 3 yellows receives an automatic 1 match ban.
this is designed to effect the players who persistently pick up yellows in games but face no penalty
38. 13 a side across all levels.
39. allow pick of the ground as AFL.
40. A mark from the goalkeeper kick out.

41. Anyone sent off is not to be replaced in extra time.
42. Increase moving the ball from 13mtrs to 30mtrs for dissent.
43. A point scored directly from sideline = 2 pts
44. The balance of paid coaches in a county should reflect the need to promote the weaker code in the county e.g.
more football coaches in Kilkenny, more hurling coaches in Tyrone.
45. Make the ball in hurling not travel so far
46. Have a coaching week end for referees and officials. Which promotes the use of common sense. Let the game be physical.
47. Consistency by referees re all rules,
48. Fairness to be shown by CCCC
49. better promotion of games.
50. actually promote the games to the general public and counties involved. Get a promotions company to do all
the publicity for games and give them a % of the gate for increased attendances. Have bars, food and other
activities inside the grounds.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/11/2012 14:09:51    1304338

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ideas 51-70
51. Stop the clock like the ref's do in rugby. This will put an end to any injury time controversy.
52. Allow goalkeepers kick-out from the ground or from a tee. Let the goalie decide.
53. Beaten provincial finalists should get a home draw for next game which takes place 2wks after provincial final.
This rubbish about beaten provincial losers going out 6 days later is nonsense.
54. Engage with stakeholders in the tourism industry to attract more of our foreign visitors to our stadia -
both Croke Park and nationwide. This could be done via weekend packages involving the Croke Park Hotel, or
tour buses stopping off at regional venues which would boost tourism in the likes of Thurles, Ballina etc.
55. Offer GAA camps to the international audience. We have a strong expat network internationally who have children
growing up and playing our games abroad. Similar to the Irish Colleges, a GAA Camp would offer the kids a 1-3 week
holiday in Ireland where the can receive some coaching and learn about Irish culture or even improve their English
language skills in their downtime. In the short run it would boost revenues for both the GAA and the country, and
in the long run it would possibly provide benefits to sustainable growth of the games abroad.
56. Similar to the Tain Hurling League, introduce a regional club football league for weaker football counties.
The South East is the most obvious location - Waterford, Carlow, Kilkenny, Wexford and Tipp are all at a development
stage in football and have had little success at club provincial level.
57. Align underage age levels with school year not calendar year, to stop splitting up groups of school friends and
hopefully keep more kids playing Gaelic games rather than moving to other sports which are already aligned
to the school year and allow these kids to stay together playng their sport.
58. Encourage more women to attend games by having a best dressed lady competition at each championship game.
Both county and provincial, Winner receiving tickets to finals.
59. half of county boards officers to have at least hurling background and have having footballing background
60. Team captains are the only players allowed to speak to the ref - like rugby. If you have a gripe speak to your
captain. (there is no respect for gaa refs - they are not all bad)

61. Introduce 2 refs
62. Goading = yellow card
63. Name and shame fans who act the pup
64. Hooter to keep time
65. Free for blocking players' runs off the ball
66. get rid of the parallelogram
67. Penalise professional interchange fouling. This is the practice where one player fouls usually outside scoring range,
they take turns, no-one gets red-carded and teams are prevented from running at or getting momentum.
If a player commits over 3 of these fouls instead of giving them a yellow card introduce a 21yard free from the
third foul onwards. Keep yellow and red cards for dangerous play etc etc
68. Have u10/12 players coming onto the field with the senior players before club games, kind of like the mascots
in soccer. Then have them playing a quick game at half time.
69. Group supporters more together at matches instead of having them all completely mixed which takes away from the
atmosphere.
70. Do to Antrim hurling and football what they did with Dublin. The population is there.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/11/2012 14:10:34    1304340

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ideas 71-80
71. When teams play Dublin in Croke park such as Meath and Kildare offer their supporters tickets at the same price
as the hill but for the lower canal. Offer all the lower canal end tickets to the team (Meath Dublin etc) just
like Dublin get all the Hill tickets.
72. Play more club championship games early on in the year to stop the clog up at the end.
73. Make documentaries for the big games such as all provincial finals, Kerry v Cork, Meath V Kildare, Meath v Dublin,
Kildare v Dublin, Tyrone v Armagh, Galway v Mayo, every all-ireland game from the quarters up and all the big
hurling matches or any football match with a lot of hype surrounding it. I don't know if any of you seen the Meath
v Dublin 2005 short film but it made great viewing.
74. Bring back the Archbishop of Cashel throwing the ball/sliotar in at the start of the All Irelands
75. Finish the All-Ireland club championship in one calendar year so that players can have a proper break for Christmas
and be refreshed for a new season in February/March.
76. allow players to play for 2 clubs in one year, for example someone from donegal in college or working in cork should
have the option to represent the local cork club in say the league and their own club for the donegal championship,
reducing travel or worse, having to give up playing
77. hill16 should be patrolled more and stewards should be made more aware of their surroundings its an amazing spot and
the young lad loves it too but going to matches and finding yourself stuck beside some baboon lighting up a joint with
10+ lads waiting on standbye for their go is very off putting most times this happens the stewards just turn a blind
eye when their eyes should be wide open to this going on especially in a family enviroment..
78. Get rid of replays altogether. So come up with a rule on how a drawn match AFTER extra time is decided.
Option 1- Start another period of ET and the first team to score wins.
Option 2- Penalties. Cruel but that's life.
Option 3- Point Free taking. Like what they are doing for the Sigerson Cup next season.
I think option 1 or 2 would be more exciting
County boards to draw up a master club fixture list at the start of the year and stick to it. Croke park to assist
by also preparing a properly structured master fixture list.
79. Scrap the toe-up rule.
80. Scrap the rule allowing players to fist it over the bar.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/11/2012 14:11:06    1304341

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ideas 81-100
81. Either have the championship based on Champions League format, OR at least make a level playing field i.e a
north, south, east, west province system.
82. More coverage for college football. The standard is high, but it doesn't get enough coverage
83. Standard pricing for games across counties and codes.
84. You should know what you're going to be charged before you go to games regardless of whether its club or county
(at least at senior and intermediate).
85. Admission prices should be up beside the list of fixtures. All other codes you know what you're going to be charged
going to a game.
86. Also the season ticket should be widened out to incorporate more games.
The GAA has improved in this regard but there are still discpreancies particularly at club level.
87. Change the all Ireland structure to a first round 1 and 2 seed open draw with the winners being grouped into
4 groups of 4 with the the and the losers playing and all Ireland B competition
The top 2 in each group of the A completion qualify for the all Ireland quarter finals
88. Closed fist only handpass
89. a citing regime brought in by the CCCC so that players can be punished properly for their misdemeanours, and
I dont mean just the big teams that get televised, which is usually the case, there should be no bias in the
suspensions.
90. Give both football and hurling a chance. Give players who play both sports a chance. Stop pretending that they
are not two completely different sports, with only a few basic similarities and to a large extent completely
different skill sets.
91. A separate season for each intercounty season. This season would last approximately 4 months. There would be no
League but a championship that would give all counties plenty of games.
92. The football seaon could run from the begining of March to the end of June. Matches to be played most weekends up
until the latter stages of the championship.
93. During this time frame, the club hurling championship could take place in each county. Midweek games should become
the norm. (There would still be difficulties with this plan but far less than current set up).
94. The hurling championship would run from July to October. Likewise the club football championship would run in all
counties during the same period.
95. A format that would give all counties 10-15 games each season minimum.
96. The following year the seaons could be reversed i.e. intercounty hurling season first etc. This would mean that eg
a hurling season would follow a hurling season after the winter break, giving more continuity to both sports at
both levels...
97. The all-ireland club championship could still continue as usual between November to February though a complete
winter break may be preferable
98. Intercounty league to last from Jan to March.
99. Intercounty championship to last from June to August.
100. Provincial championships to be totally scrapped and knockout 32 county open draw.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/11/2012 14:11:56    1304343

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101. Mark awarded to a clean field inside the 45's from a kickout only.
102. Increase steps to 7 (football).
103. Can pick off the ground provided player isnt on the ground e.g. if a knee is in contact with grass he's on the deck.

104. Develop 3 big stadiums in Connacht Ulster, Munster to take the load off Croke Park.

crossfieldball (Galway) - Posts: 650 - 01/12/2012 17:10:17    1305217

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Fair play to ormondbannerman for taking the trouble to list them all down.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 01/12/2012 17:27:00    1305223

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