daytona11.
thats disgusting whats happened to you and with a young family to support , i really hope you get the compensation and the culprit is brought before the courts and banned for lfe . i wish you well

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 17/02/2012 18:27:12    1113840

Sorry to hear that Daytona - terrible injuries.

I had my nose broke by an elbow to the face on the field... something similar to your situation.

Very expensive and painful business to get corrected... hope it plays out well for you,

Revenge is fun by the way.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 17/02/2012 20:44:11    1113911

Have to say I think Daytona II is absolutely right in feeling hard done by ,both in what "happened" on the pitch and in the "treatment' he is or isnt receiving afterwards
The word "OMERTA" comes to mind when dealing with playing field skulduggery during GAA matches. The "sly dig" is nothing new to football, and has been there since I was a lad many years ago , and was on the receiving end of quite a few , but I never saw injuries to the extent that seem to be occuring nowadays.
The attitudes that condone this violence and the ensuing "saw nothing" approach are part and parcel of Irish life in general. Who could deny that just maybe the political , economic climate that has prevailed in Ireland and brought the country to the state its now in, was nurtured and fostered on the playing fields of the GAA over the years (and I dont exempt the rugby "boyos ' either). Does the phrase "Get the business done when the ref is not looking" resonate with anyone ? Just parlay that statement onto Irish political and business culture and it might make some sense!!!
Manly play and toughness is one thing but downright thuggery under the cloak of sport is something else altogether, and I believe all right minded players and sportsfans know it when they see it ,but may not like to admit it for fear of being branded as soft or cowardly.
Fair and clean play is the best example for kids starting to play these games which should ultimately serve to help them become better adults, but unless a harder stance is taken then the story just goes on and on.... Anyway hope you have a good recovery Daytona and get back on the field again soon.

nemlodoak (Meath) - Posts: 170 - 17/02/2012 21:46:22    1113940

jeez daytona thats awful. As somebody mentioned before the insurance is such a hassle that many just give up on it. Letters followed by more letters requesting other letters, its easy see why peopl get fed up with it and lose patience. You dont mention your club but if I were in your position I would feel very left down. A fella gives alot of time and effort for the club colours and should be backed through thick and thin. As an example, Derrytresk, they know they did wrong but you didnt see them leave their players down, they fought tooth and nail to clear them which rightly or wrongly shows unity in the club. Have you any brothers or close friends on the team that are tempted to stay away?
Anyway, best of luck with it, hope the insurance officer at the club pulls the finger out and pushes the case through

mmcartan (Cork) - Posts: 17 - 18/02/2012 09:35:32    1113961

Daytone - I'm very sorry to hear about what happened you and I think enough has been said by others in relation to it which I agree with so I'll not add to it - I would like however to comment in relation to the GAA injury scheme and how you feel it has not served your needs.

I'm sorry to say that any mis-treatment in relation to expenses is solely the fault of your club and the GAA Injury scheme is NOT a disaster - Your clubs needs to appoint someone to administer it properly, and the goalposts do not change in relation to processing claims. If the claim form is completed correctly by your club's claims officer they will pay out every time.

Our Club will always ensure that the player is not out of pocket and will cover all medical expenses, then they process the claim to get that back through the GAA injury scheme. We get all medical expenses up to 4.5k with a €100 excess. The injury scheme is administered by Willis, but it is not an insurance scheme - All claims are under-written by the GAA itself. There is no comparable injury scheme in any of the other common field sports in Ireland, your issue here is that your Club is obviously badly run, and they do not take care of their players as they should.

I think it's unfair to admonish the entire GAA organisation just because your club is badly run and that you have suffered as a result.

I would suggest that if the same people were running your local soccer club, it would be no better !!

In relation to your medical expenses, this a local club issue not a GAA issue, and whilst yours is probably not the only GAA club which does run it's affairs properly, don't tar the entire organisation with the same dirty brush.

GAA125 (Monaghan) - Posts: 34 - 18/02/2012 10:18:47    1113967

First of all I hope you recover and get better and also the indignity you have had to endure should be addressed. I would get myself a lawyer and sort the thug out and the club responsible - believe me watch everyone run for cover, its worth it just for that alone.

But in fairness to the GAA Insurance scheme (its one of many) it cannot compensate you for anything really, only the courts will do that. The Scheme is to protect the GAA first, it doesn't compensate for medical expenses that are covered say by your own medical insurance, it won't pay loss of earnings if your boss pays you while out sick. If your boss doesn't pay you while out sick it will pay up to a max of 400 euro a week, first week is nil.
If there are dental fee's it will cover them so any medical procedure NOT covered by your own medical insurance can be billed for.

But more importanty the Ref must have filed a report, your mentor must inform Club Secretary within 8 days and they in turn must apply on your behalf within that time frame or else you will encounter problems. Bear in mind, your employer has to be involved, the doctors, medical insurance, social welfare, club, county board and ref thats a lot of paperwork.

This scheme does work well I have had to use it for a player and a fellow mentor and it works IF you follow the procedures if nor forget it. But I would sort the thug out with a lawyer - you'll be amazed at what you might be entitled to when a lawyer gets his teeth into this.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 19/02/2012 18:33:11    1114574

arock
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1114574 First of all I hope you recover and get better and also the indignity you have had to endure should be addressed. I would get myself a lawyer and sort the thug out and the club responsible - believe me watch everyone run for cover, its worth it just for that alone.

But in fairness to the GAA Insurance scheme (its one of many) it cannot compensate you for anything really, only the courts will do that. The Scheme is to protect the GAA first, it doesn't compensate for medical expenses that are covered say by your own medical insurance, it won't pay loss of earnings if your boss pays you while out sick. If your boss doesn't pay you while out sick it will pay up to a max of 400 euro a week, first week is nil.
If there are dental fee's it will cover them so any medical procedure NOT covered by your own medical insurance can be billed for.

But more importanty the Ref must have filed a report, your mentor must inform Club Secretary within 8 days and they in turn must apply on your behalf within that time frame or else you will encounter problems. Bear in mind, your employer has to be involved, the doctors, medical insurance, social welfare, club, county board and ref thats a lot of paperwork.

This scheme does work well I have had to use it for a player and a fellow mentor and it works IF you follow the procedures if nor forget it. But I would sort the thug out with a lawyer - you'll be amazed at what you might be entitled to when a lawyer gets his teeth into this.

That seems like a lot of hassle

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 19/02/2012 18:43:15    1114582

Shocking story Daytona and common enough. I can recall reading in the Leitrim Observer at least 3 very similar cases which happened in local matches and all 3 went to court. In most cases I think the culprits got away with paying compensation to the victims. I had the misfortune of having 3 ribs broke myself in a match from a very late shoulder to the chest when the ball was long gone so I have a dislike for thugs on the football field. And of course there was the high profile case of a player from Fermanagh was lucky to be alive after being struck in a game in San Francisco.

Grey_Wolf (Leitrim) - Posts: 236 - 20/02/2012 11:29:16    1114791

It is a very sad story.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 20/02/2012 11:53:06    1114810

Disappointing to see some people on here condoning thuggery on the GAA field. Very sad. Shocking story Daytona and you were 100% right to follow this up through the garda. It's only a matter of time before a player who is seriously assaulted wins a case and the perpetrator does time, hopefully this will waken people up and free the GAA from this plague

EnolaGay (Tyrone) - Posts: 653 - 20/02/2012 12:10:47    1114830

what was the outcome of the Fermanagh lad that was hit playing out in San Fran, there was a case of a lad almost being killed.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 20/02/2012 13:21:18    1114883

I am sorry to hear this and sympathize with you but I think preventing your kids from playing GAA is going too far. If you have issues with your club have them play for another club. Why punish your kids and have them miss out because of one thug on a pitch. In fairness your club should have covered your costs until your claim came through and supported you in seeking justice but don't tar the whole organisation with the one brush.

farney_exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 71 - 20/02/2012 18:33:23    1115156

why is this here?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 20/02/2012 19:38:15    1115213

Just reading on the home page where "Former" cork footballer Diarmuid Duggan was left to foot his own medical bill totalling 7,000 euros to me these players are the ones who make the turn stiles click, with no pay back.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 299 - 20/02/2012 20:03:59    1115233

I wouls like to ask a few questions to verify this thread if allowed.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 20/02/2012 20:45:29    1115259

Real Kerry Fan
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Go ahead?

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 20/02/2012 20:53:50    1115262

Daytona that was a bad touch you got. I have seen these type of thugs playing many times and nearly always they picked on someone smaller or hit them dirty. Although I have also seen some people getting injured and they deserved it as they hit first. The GAA is full of double standards.

Doublebounce (Tyrone) - Posts: 26 - 20/02/2012 21:24:28    1115288

There are some real dirtbirds playing Gaelic Games and they seem to get with away with an awful lot which I believe is driving some parents to direct their kids towards soccer. There are some real headers playing in the Antrim Leagues, at junior level especially, and they think once they are on a pitch they are untouchable and often are. Officials get some awful abuse as well and I can see why some counties are struggling to recruit them. There has to be zero tolerance on this thuggish behaviour and clubs and counties should be made to sign up to pre-season agreements on their players, fans and management behaviour.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 20/02/2012 21:43:05    1115306

Firstly datona that was a disgrace that happened to you my playing career was ended at 18 by a boot to back of my knee. I had to miss college and to be honest it still gives me trouble to this day and I'm 41. The lad didn't even get sent off. Cost my family a fair bit of money at time hospitals , operations etc
Secondly the guy asking for verification needs to get his head out of the gaga clouds this sort of thing happens in hundreds of games around country plus due to legal issues I'm sure datona can not give many details. So let's get real this happens way too often and it needs to be stopped and for deliberately injuring and causing serious harm to anyone should be a criminal offense

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/02/2012 21:45:46    1115308

arock
County: Dublin
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1115262 Real Kerry Fan
County: All
Posts: 2564

Go ahead?

Well for one a man with no money and 3 children,morgage etc and didnt bother to claim his sick benefit from Social Welfare because it was 'too much hassle'
I am very familiar with Kildare football and just wondering when this occured in 2011..Also he started a thread previous to this one 'church and GAA etc' and had much of the same re guards etc and the administrator closed it. I asked some of these questions already but they never saw the light of day.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 21/02/2012 09:44:48    1115345