@Tyronetim
The county is referred to as "The Rebel County". This name has 15th Century origins, however from the 20th century the name has been more commonly attributed to the prominent role Cork played in the Irish War of Independence (1919-1921) when it was the scene of considerable fighting
Does that answer your question?

mmrebel (Cork) - Posts: 19 - 26/01/2012 19:29:26    1101023

mmrebel
someone's on the Wiki!!!!

Mon1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 153 - 26/01/2012 19:38:46    1101031

mmrebel Good lad...so the Cork boys can through themselves around too

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 26/01/2012 20:05:43    1101051

The posters here are totally divided on this subject. There is no middle ground. If this support for this thuggery continues then it will only get worse and we will see a death caused within a few years. NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOUT STOP. This toleration for thuggery goes back a long ways in the GAA. When the Gooch got his eye goughed in the AI final it was made a laughing matter by the victors and more suprisingly by RTE on their programme. The gooch has suffered eye problems since. Its this toleration for thuggery that leads to serious injuries such as the one in America last summer and in London some years back where a player lost all memory. A DEATH WILL COME IF THE GAA DONT GET THE MESSEGE. And its not just a Tyrone or Northern thing as im involved here in Mayo but there is a lot more toleration for it in the North. I have a lot of Northern friends and meet up at matches and i can see it in our conversations. Mentors should never confront opposing players and obviously that started the row on sunday. I coach teams and would never confront an opposing player.

keelman (Mayo) - Posts: 113 - 26/01/2012 20:12:34    1101056

The Dr. Crokes club looking for a separation of fans is probably OTT but GAA officials will have to up the number of stewards,security and GARDA presence or else they will have to scrap these All-Ireland series in junior and intermediate club grades

andhuglas (Cork) - Posts: 26 - 26/01/2012 20:37:32    1101077

Boy o boy must have been some tussle. This must surely be on a par with world war three. 30 pages, Anthony beevoir has written less about the 2nd world war.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 26/01/2012 20:47:20    1101083

"When the Gooch got his eye goughed in the AI final it was made a laughing matter by the victors and more suprisingly by RTE on their programme. The gooch has suffered eye problems since"

I could be wrong but didn't his eye troubles start after an incident v Monaghan.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/0413/cooperc.html

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 26/01/2012 20:52:03    1101085

I dont think that the Goochs eye problems stemmed from the incident in the 2005 final against Tyrone MichaelO but it was still a horrible thing to do to the lad.Win at all costs though,right?

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 26/01/2012 20:59:54    1101088

yes forthy -five,
i to was disappointed by dr crokes awful comment,
as a member of a small south armagh club i have often felt the but of a cross shout, but crossmaglen are a proud and dedicated club who suffered more than any kerry club and didn't resourt to violent methods but conducted themselves very diplomatically

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 26/01/2012 21:15:24    1101103

The reactions afterwards by somepeople have been worse than the row. Any posters on here who has played gaa would have seen or been in a brawl where their players ran into a brawl because their team mates were involved at least once in their life,if any of them brawls were rewatched on utube they wouldnt make confortable viewing. Im not saying for one minute its ok to throw punches in a match,but some posters need to step back and realise it happens in their own county as well.This is a gaa issue that it seems to raise its head more at junior matches . . I think gestures have to be made by the clubs involved and someone has to hand out an olive branch,with the match between crokes and cross coming up dont think anyone wants a dangerous precedent to have been set . chairmen should be aware how much responsibility they have and realise their words can send out the signal that this is what the county thinks. I think people should step up to the mark and stop all this name calling ,its actually quite sad ,when the one thing we all have in common is the love of the game.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 26/01/2012 21:26:43    1101115

As a Cross Rangers man I would be highly offended if the Crokes chairman was suggesting that they needed to be separated from us. I am prepared to give benefit of the doubt as the media are certainly not helping at the minute and some elements would not be averse to using his remarks in a way which was not intended. Having said that i would agree with someone elses earlier comment that all Club and GAA officials need to be very careful with what they are saying at present.

I hope and expect that we will do our talking on the pitch on Feb 18, playing our style of football - hard but fair, and whichever way the result goes behave in a sportsmanlike manner.

crossranger (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 26/01/2012 21:40:04    1101125

it's amazing that all logic goes out the window in situations like this. it seems that all tyrone posters (and most other ulster posters) have one opinion and the rest of the country have the opposite opinion. does that mean that people are not looking at things logically. do people take it personally if their,town,county,provence is being held to ridicule. I think it would be much better to take a step back

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 26/01/2012 21:59:21    1101145

I cant make up my mind if this is a mighty debate, or a dreadful one :)
Breff, what have we done!!! ;)

Lads Lads Lads....

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!?!?!

wont somebody think of the children....please....wont somebody think of the children!! (to be read in your best Maud Flanders voice!)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 27/01/2012 08:55:36    1101155

I think it's a dreadful debate Liam, too many petty insults being fired about and people getting carried away with the hysteria of it all.

As far as I can see, there was a nasty incident involving both clubs and both clubs wll be punished. One club felt aggrieved at thier loss and got involved with the media more than they should have. They will look back with embarassment on how they handled the affair in the clear light of day. The other club will look back with regret as to how a few minutes of madness by a few officials and their subs may now cost them an All-Ireland title.

The GAA will review the matter and hopefully make improvements to try to prevent incidents occurring again. The media (not all of it) will wait for the next incident they can use to generate a negative GAA story and people will continue to play GAA sports in greater numbers than ever.

No big deal, in a months time it'll have blown over and the world will keep spinning around (hopefully).

Good Simpsons reference though.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 27/01/2012 09:46:13    1101169

Again could we leave this to HQ to sort out one way or another. Too many people,who were not even at the match,roaring on all sides. Its like manna from heaven for the media and other sports organisations are rubbing their hands with glee.Also Dr. Crokes could have handled their situation better. This whole thing is only creating tensions all round and especially if Kerry meet Tyrone later in the year you can see this whole sad affair being resurrected by the media and certain fans to create a rift between two great counties.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 27/01/2012 09:51:58    1101170

Crossranger - you should be offended if that was the intent but I don't think it was.
Crokes were looking for a block booking for family/juvenile members so they can sit together as per their statement below.
Would hate to think we are going down that road.
As was said in the anyone but Ciarrai thread there is alot of respect for Armagh football in Kerry. Several of my countymen crossed the border after you 2002 win as a mark of respect. I've great memories of that final despite the loss. And to keep the Tyrone boys happy, 05&08 weren't the worst nights either ;-)

We've brought juvenile members to all our games this year and they have been together for the games. However we believe that there will be a large attendance at the game in Portloise and hence our reason for looking for an area where these can be accommodated together. All other interpretation of the clubs requests are a misinterpretation of the facts and the Club is in no way calling for segregation of supporters.

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 27/01/2012 09:53:16    1101171

superglue, it's hard not to take that wrong meaning out of the statement, given the timing, given the media furore over what happened in the Dromid-Derrytresk game, also in light of the comments made by the former Chairman Patrick O'Sullivan about our fans, it in my mind was a clear slight at the club. The teeling comment was that there needs to be more stewarding at the subs benches. The inference from that is that either our subs cannot be trusted to stay in their position or that the Dr Crokes subs need protection from our fans!! I presume he has no fears that there will be any issue with his own fans abusing our subs and his own subs staying in their own dug out.

We are a proud club and have been central to bringing the club game to its current high profile. We are confident and dare I say it a bit full of ourselves but no more so than any other great team, and that is one of the reasons we are a great team. However, we also have a great respect for the traditions of the game and great respect for the people who play the game and history has shown that. Gone are the times where our problems were the focus of the news around us and we are proud of that. The behind the veil remarks that were made this week may in your mind have been innocent but they were a clear attempt to undermine our club, undermine our team and undermine our people while in the same breath force the hand of the GAA to stack the cards a bit more heavily in your favour. It won't work and the one thing that will happen on the 18th is that the best footballing team will win the match. The game will not be won through the pages of the Kerry Examiner but on the grass of O'Moore Park.

RangerDanger (Armagh) - Posts: 101 - 27/01/2012 10:10:09    1101179

I agree RangerDanger. I found his comments very offensive, I have travelled all over the country and indeed over to the uk on 3 occasions to support Cross and Armagh and never once did i threaten or offend anyone at a game. This is a scandalous comment and I would love for Cross Rangers to make an issue out of it with HQ. I know however they won't do this as they are a club that concentrates on promoting gaelic games and culture and not a club that drags the GAA and its name through the mud by slinging unfounded and unfactual accusations. I hope all fans travelling to the game in Portlaoise drive carefully and enjoy what should be a great occasion. May the best team win and good luck to Crokes.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 27/01/2012 10:52:34    1101193

Years ago these games were sporting events but now its war talk.

georgelee (Louth) - Posts: 523 - 27/01/2012 10:53:13    1101194

Well said Realkerry

Superglue - I hope what you say is right and believe it to be credible as I think this is a responsible thing to do (for craic and atmosphere) but were there some comments made that did support the negative interpretation (thought i read something yesterday - happy to be corrected though).

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 27/01/2012 10:55:01    1101196