You've missed the point again Liam.

We'll agree to disagree on this one

EnolaGay (Tyrone) - Posts: 653 - 24/01/2012 15:44:20    1099523

The facts and video evidence speaks volumes as to what happened! If Tyrone people come on here and justify this sort of behaviour then i think it reflects as to what type of people they are! Shocking scenes that will go un-punished but it swings in roundabouts and these lads will get their commupance in the final if there is any justice.

Ciarrai Abu (Overseas) - Posts: 1050 - 24/01/2012 15:45:10    1099525

Breff if it was a Club from Dublin/limerick, I wouldnt be any different in my views I promise you. Enola seems to think that Dromid are as much to blame because they started the schmozzle on the pitch. But its not the scmozzle on the pitch thats the problem, its the fellas coming in from the bench and the stands, thats the problem, and that had nothing to do with Pearses. If it had been 2 teams having a barney, it would be very different. But when the officials, fans and subs got involved, that was not of Dromids making, and that was the problem.
Agree?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 24/01/2012 15:45:37    1099526

Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
Posts: 2852

1099526 Breff if it was a Club from Dublin/limerick, I wouldnt be any different in my views I promise you. Enola seems to think that Dromid are as much to blame because they started the schmozzle on the pitch. But its not the scmozzle on the pitch thats the problem, its the fellas coming in from the bench and the stands, thats the problem, and that had nothing to do with Pearses. If it had been 2 teams having a barney, it would be very different. But when the officials, fans and subs got involved, that was not of Dromids making, and that was the problem.
Agree?

So if it was a club from Dublin/Limerick you'd be wondering why a disproportionate amount of melees involve teams from there.

Everyone is condemning the violence. Only a few are condemning the reporting of it.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12410 - 24/01/2012 15:57:34    1099537

Good article on the key issues from last Sunday. Puts things into perspective really. Kudo's to teamtalkmag.

http://www.teamtalkmag.com/archives/12329

redhandmacca (Tyrone) - Posts: 240 - 24/01/2012 16:02:18    1099545

Cant agree with you on this one GF and I think, even tho u may not agree, had it been a club from say, Galway and club from ...Roscommon..you wouldnt be making the same point my friend.
Sorry but I cant agree with you here. I usually would :)

Liamo I honestly dont care where the club is from, I would still be making the same point. The Tyrone/Kerry thing has absolutely no relevance to the point I am making.

To clarify - Running to the media reflects badly on the Dromid club. If their motivation is simply to see justice done then report it to the GAA authorities who actually have the powers to impose disciplinary sanctions. If there motivation is to gripe and whinge then report it to the various media outlets who will no doubt whip up sensationalist 'GAA brawl' type stories. Please tell me what is achieved by the Dromid club passing comment in the media? In my view absolutely nothing.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 24/01/2012 16:33:19    1099569

It is the Kerrymen who are calling for the video of the game to be investigated.Fact.If they had anything to hide/were equally culpable, they would not want an investigation.Opinion.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 24/01/2012 16:33:56    1099570

Excellent article in teamtalk redhandmacca, sums the issues up pretty well for me.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 24/01/2012 16:38:30    1099573

the biggest problem I have with all this that the official involved in the initial row with the dromid player seems to be miles away from the dugout. What purpose does a lad with a clipboard serve when he's that far away from his own management team and dugout... One of the biggest issues in the GAA is the amount of people allowed to be on the line and in technical areas which are common in country grounds. If that man had been in his technical area then nothing would have started... how many times does a wrestling match occur between two people when one person doesnt give the ball back straight away to another person.. That should be left between the two players and there are too many officials who feel as if they have something to "contribute" by being on the sideline.. it's ridiculous..... And as for the individuals who hopped the barrier to get involved, they should never be allowed take part in gaa in any capacity for the rest of their lives, they are a disgrace. Keep selectors, statisticians managers etc in their technical area and keep the spectators in the stand, and any paying customer that feels the need to enter the pitch during play should be banned for life.

meathfan1 (Meath) - Posts: 231 - 24/01/2012 16:38:42    1099574

I've watched the footage a few times and have seen far, far worse brawls happen in the GAA. The incident definately kicked off with the Dromid player decking the Derrytresk official and then a few Dromid guys ran in which provoked the Derrytresk subs to get involved so don't give me any of this "Dromid are innocent" crap; the video completely disproves that. There were as many purple tops swinging punches as blue tops and there were also players and officials from both sides trying to break things up so people should take a step back. Those guilty of raising their fists should face punishment no one is disputing that but this concerted, sinister, nasty campaign against Derrytresk, Tyrone and the North from some Southern GAA folk and a rotten, partitionist Southern media is nauseating in the extreme. It is venemous, spiteful, biased, deliberately one sided and determined to get Derrytresk thrown out. It is further vindication that there is definately a fault line developing in the Association and has been for quite a while. There are those outside Ulster who are totally hostile to the province ane they stick the boot in at every opportunity. Armagh and Tyrone were vilified for daring to beat the media darlings Kerry while last year Donegal were the fall guy for the same elements for having the audacity to employ defensive tactics against Dublin; this is another chance for them to further abuse Ulster sides and Northern people. There is definately a jealous streak there because Ulster and Northern people have a fire in their bellies that doesn't exist in the rest of the island; just look at the placid meak acceptance of economic policies that are destroying ordinary people in the South. Ulster people have always fought against injustice and taken no crap and some in the South are envious of this. We don't just roll over and take it, we didn't take if ftom the Brits and their Loyalist satellite death squads and we are certainly not going to start taking it from some revisionist, partitionist people south of the border either.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 24/01/2012 16:40:33    1099577

Not offical yet but the tyrone club has been kicked a disgrace in my eyes and shame on croke park south v north ..

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/01/2012 16:48:55    1099584

24/01/2012 16:40:33
Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 4710

1099577 I've watched the footage a few times and have seen far, far worse brawls happen in the GAA. The incident definately kicked off with the Dromid player decking the Derrytresk official and then a few Dromid guys ran in which provoked the Derrytresk subs to get involved so don't give me any of this "Dromid are innocent" crap; the video completely disproves that. There were as many purple tops swinging punches as blue tops and there were also players and officials from both sides trying to break things up so people should take a step back. Those guilty of raising their fists should face punishment no one is disputing that but this concerted, sinister, nasty campaign against Derrytresk, Tyrone and the North from some Southern GAA folk and a rotten, partitionist Southern media is nauseating in the extreme. It is venemous, spiteful, biased, deliberately one sided and determined to get Derrytresk thrown out. It is further vindication that there is definately a fault line developing in the Association and has been for quite a while. There are those outside Ulster who are totally hostile to the province ane they stick the boot in at every opportunity. Armagh and Tyrone were vilified for daring to beat the media darlings Kerry while last year Donegal were the fall guy for the same elements for having the audacity to employ defensive tactics against Dublin; this is another chance for them to further abuse Ulster sides and Northern people. There is definately a jealous streak there because Ulster and Northern people have a fire in their bellies that doesn't exist in the rest of the island; just look at the placid meak acceptance of economic policies that are destroying ordinary people in the South. Ulster people have always fought against injustice and taken no crap and some in the South are envious of this. We don't just roll over and take it, we didn't take if ftom the Brits and their Loyalist satellite death squads and we are certainly not going to start taking it from some revisionist, partitionist people south of the border either.

Your post started off well with some good points but then you had to go into your southern media anti northern mode and you talk a load of rubbish. If you lost the paronoia with re to anything that is north v south, your posts would be ok

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 24/01/2012 16:48:59    1099585

Deny all you want ormond but it is quite clear to many people in the North that there is a nasty element in the 26 counties that is biased. You only have to pick up a Southern newspaper, particularly from a certain media group, and listen to the radio/watch TV to see this.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 24/01/2012 16:59:41    1099599

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 14521

1099584 Not offical yet but the tyrone club has been kicked a disgrace in my eyes and shame on croke park south v north ..

Where are you getting your information Dell as the GAA have not even convened a meeting on this as of yet?

Ciarrai Abu (Overseas) - Posts: 1050 - 24/01/2012 17:02:09    1099601

If that's true dell then EVERY Ulster team left in the club Championships should pull out and EVERY Ulster county side should withdraw from the National League. Many Ulster Gaels have had enough of Croke Park sidelining us, blaming us for all the ills of the game. We must now take a stand as a province.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 24/01/2012 17:03:28    1099602

Ciarrai Abu

Just heard from a lad there now in leinster .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/01/2012 17:05:24    1099604

Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 4713

1099602 If that's true dell then EVERY Ulster team left in the club Championships should pull out and EVERY Ulster county side should withdraw from the National League. Many Ulster Gaels have had enough of Croke Park sidelining us, blaming us for all the ills of the game. We must now take a stand as a province




Yeah correct ulsterman getting a joke now 5 thousand euro fine i believe also and croke should hang there heads in shame.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/01/2012 17:07:58    1099606

Dellboy

Have a feeling it's only hearsay' as they would not have had a chance to convene a meeting to assess bans etc! Cant see the grounds for dismissal from competition! I suppose only time will tell!

Ciarrai Abu (Overseas) - Posts: 1050 - 24/01/2012 17:10:04    1099610

Dellboy I dont know how true that is.Does anyone know when there will be a decision made.

Gman14 (Galway) - Posts: 81 - 24/01/2012 17:10:39    1099611

cuchulainn35
County: Armagh
Posts: 413

1099346
Ok mooooo

Dromid lost and Derrytresk won,

But if the defeated team came from Offaly, Fermanagh, Armagh or Longford, this wouldn't have seen the light of day. That is my point

bulls*** if it was another club other then a Kerry one no one would say they were sore losers. its just another excuse to get on the anti kerry bandwagn

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 24/01/2012 17:13:49    1099616