Having had my little spat with the rugger sorts

I think it's totally unacceptable for people to come on to the field of play and get involved. They should be banned for their actions and will be I hope.

We don't however want to get to a stage where the players are going into the stands after the supporters as some of the rugger and soccer guys seem to have forgotten about

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 24/01/2012 13:10:08    1099319

I wasn't at the game to comment either way so I am not going to. What I will say is that it pi**es me off when a Tyrone club are involved in a row that it becomes "typical Tyrone, nordies etc etc". I have seen plenty of incidents which looked to be much worse than anything I seen (on the news) from sundays game and Tyrone wer'nt involved in any way. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that every county has these incidents.

Now, if it's true that supporters entered the field of play then proper action should be taken by the GAA, however and I'd imagine the reason Declan O'Sullivan is not making a big deal out of the whole thing is that he was hit by a handbag by some oul doll, hardly the end of the world or life thretening!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0h3QQIBH6Y&feature=related

The link above is just show that it's not just Tyrone, not to have a dig at either county involved

wise_guy (Tyrone) - Posts: 1584 - 24/01/2012 13:27:53    1099341

Ok mooooo

Dromid lost and Derrytresk won,

But if the defeated team came from Offaly, Fermanagh, Armagh or Longford, this wouldn't have seen the light of day. That is my point

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 24/01/2012 13:32:10    1099346

The club should be thrown out of the competition. And every sub and mentor who stormed onto the pitch should be banned for 6 months at least. But nothing will happen.

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 24/01/2012 13:32:38    1099347

Can t believe all the people on here attempting to justify and excuse supporters/subs/mentors coming on and attacking players - Fans often get involved as emotion run high when they see their children, brothers, cousins, fathers etc getting unfairly set upon. ...etc etc

Derrytresk should be kicked out and banned from all competitions for a year - it was their mentor/subs/ supporters who got involved. NO-ONE SHOULD ENTER THE FIELD OF PLAY AND ATTACK PLAYERS. it would soon make clubs sort out this disgraceful behaviour from players/supporters

Shin_kicker (Dublin) - Posts: 50 - 24/01/2012 13:33:18    1099349

Breff, there have been many many bad tempered games involving Munster in the past and not once has a sub got involved. Not once.
And I dont have the hump atall man, I dont know why u think I do, I am simply continuing to make what I think is a valid point. You disagree with me, thats no problem atall. Its a decent debate. I dont have the hump my ol stock!

C'mere to those of u who think this is a southern media witch hunt against Tyrone....have a read of the Examiner today where MONAGHAN footballer, Dick Clerkin has a right go at the Tyrone club and Tyrone in general saying its no co incidence that its always Tyrone and they need to "get their house in order up there" .....

Not me, Dick Clerkin. A proud Ulster man.

Also have a read of all the reports on this issue and you can see why I have the view I have considering I wasnt there. Read Mick Clifforf and Fintan O'Toole. Also read Cliodhna Foleys article in the indo re Testicle Grabbing!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 24/01/2012 13:37:13    1099351

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v954WVzDfMg

Nothing in it lads! mountain made out of a mole hill!

Bit of a fine for subs entering the field and get on with it, the mentors where already on the field!

wise_guy (Tyrone) - Posts: 1584 - 24/01/2012 13:38:00    1099352

Our northern brothers would want to stop being so paranoid..This isnt a case of us freestaters being anti-northern..all neutral coverage of the game on Sunday seems to be in agreement in that the behavour of the tyrone supporters and players was to put it mildly disgusting.There will always be brawls in games like football but people jumping out of the crowd attacking players is unacceptable and those who did it on Sunday including the subs should be banned for a year full stop.Until the gaa makes an example of someone though you can be sure this will happen again and again.

juniorbsub (Wexford) - Posts: 646 - 24/01/2012 13:40:24    1099354

No place for this type of thuggery in our national games, throw out the winners and slap a good hefty fine on the Club or Clubs depending on the result of the investegation, and let the Gardai do their job as well.
The message must go out that this type of thuggery will not be tolerated from any in the assocation.

shrewdjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 290 - 24/01/2012 13:49:35    1099370

Seems to be a problem in Tyrone.

Long_John (Down) - Posts: 299 - 24/01/2012 13:52:49    1099377

was at the match as a neutral GAA skin Who was in the Portlaois for the day. Know the Derrytresk/Coalisland aea fairly well as my wife is from across the border in Maghery Armagh.
I was satnding on the terrace on the opposite side so didnt have close up view but i am not blind
the biggest problem was the amount of third parties (supporters and subs etc) from Derrytresk who got involved. The derrytresk players on the field did not actually do much wrong in the mellee.
THe club officials actions only adding fuel to fire as he should have been one of the people trying to diffuse the situation not starting it.

Dromid it must be pointed out where no angels and fell into the the Derrytresk trap of intimidating them from before the throw inn.

mrt (Mayo) - Posts: 43 - 24/01/2012 13:52:57    1099378

wise_guy
County: Tyrone

Nothing in it lads! mountain made out of a mole hill!

Seems to be the common theme of this thread. Sad really that people think that a scrap breaking out on the pitch where subs and other people can get onto a pitch and attack players but its no big thing.
I wonder would people feel the same if a child was caught in the middle of it and got injured? All just part of the game?
I noticed the same signs of apathy from a few posters here when a referee was attacked in a Tyrone club match last year
No big deal is it that a referee, a bloke like anyone else, had to get up for work the next day was knocked unconscious by some hero and spent a night in the hospital.

We'll just turn our back on another incident that highlights the dreadful violent nature in this game, it seems to be what most people on here are suggesting.

NavyNBlue (Dublin) - Posts: 1357 - 24/01/2012 14:00:26    1099391

I think Dick Clerkin has a few issues still irking him from last years championship. It was widely reported that Dick shouldn't have been sent off and that Sean Cavanagh made the most of it. For the record Dick 100% should have been sent off that day.
So that we don't get distracted from the point - Cavanagh is singled out in every match for "Special" attention just as Declan O'Sullivan is. For a junior team to be on the same pitch as DO'S you can be sure they will want to narrow the ability gap.
Why is this so different..because he's a Kerry player..the aristocrats?

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 24/01/2012 14:04:27    1099394

Just looked at the video on the Examiner website there and the truth is it should never have happened. But it wouldn't have happened if the Dromid numbers 10 & 4 had manners and didn't push over the Derrytresk number 4 when the ball went across the side line. What the Durrytresk official then did just ignited the whole incident. But the two Dromid boys started it.

In fairness it looks a harmless enough incident on the web, lot of pushing and shoving, I would say it was more verbal than anything else. Like the worst blow was from a "handbag", I would guess the Derrytresk number 4 got a little walked on from lying on the ground through for most of the incident. It what the Aussies would call a dust up. No place for it in the GAA and both clubs should be punished and lengthy suspensions handed out to anyone who entered the field of play.

Please Tyrone fans don't have a go at me put I think this is the 3rd or 4th incident of this kind involving a club from Tyrone in the last few years. So the Tyrone county board need to do something to root it out before a serious incident happens and someone gets really hurt or worse. Every county (club) has bad fans and people know who they are, a wee word to curb their enthusiasm or suspend them from attending a few games could work wonders. Monitory fines against the clubs (county) will not work as it effects the genuine members in the pocket, ban the trouble making supporters and you will notice the improvement in attitude.

antomeath (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 24/01/2012 14:06:02    1099396

antomeath
In fairness it looks a harmless enough incident on the web, lot of pushing and shoving, I would say it was more verbal than anything else. Like the worst blow was from a "handbag",

How do u explain one lad being concussed and another having his cheekbone broken then Anto......??
Some handbag!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 24/01/2012 14:13:02    1099404

Well said antomeath

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 24/01/2012 14:14:56    1099406

Tyronetim
County: Tyrone
Posts: 172

1099394 I think Dick Clerkin has a few issues still irking him from last years championship. It was widely reported that Dick shouldn't have been sent off and that Sean Cavanagh made the most of it. For the record Dick 100% should have been sent off that day.
So that we don't get distracted from the point - Cavanagh is singled out in every match for "Special" attention just as Declan O'Sullivan is. For a junior team to be on the same pitch as DO'S you can be sure they will want to narrow the ability gap.
Why is this so different..because he's a Kerry player..the aristocrats?

So, when someone from "down south" says it....its a southern conspiracy, and when an Ulster footballer says it, its just a fella with an agenda.......great to have so many excuses isnt it!!! And when another northern Gael condemns it how will you excuse that....? Another fella with an agenda?? What about the Down Gael a few posts up who condemned the Tyrone side? I suppose he is prob just a kerryman in disguise?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 24/01/2012 14:15:46    1099408

this is really pathetic this whole debate...for the last posters benefit from county down, please read references on this thread to brawls melees in the past year in other, so it is not just a tyrone problem...the small mindedness of this boring argument is laughable.
Dromid would need to be very careful for what they are asking for...the first 3 punches were thrown by Dromid men as video evidence shows...the number 10 attacked the derrytresk player on the field of play when the refs whistle went...then the number 4 stepped OFF the field of play and punched a derrytesk stats man..then the number 5 went in OFF the pitch and threw a punch at a derrytresk player..at that point the derrytresk subs cleared the hoardings and what ensued was the melee...any photos in the national players show 2-3 derrytresk players on the floor holding their heads...As I have said before Derrytresk are no shrinking violets, and some of their subs will have to receive bans....but Dromid are in hot water too...
it is very interesting that kerry commentators are doing all the moaning and whinging in the national press and radio..no comment from derrytresk and tyrone and thats the way it should remain.

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 24/01/2012 14:16:11    1099410

lads the suspensions will be handed out for sure. both sides will suffer ,derrytreask will have to play the final without most of there subs and about five players.dromid will return to kerry and lick their wounds.but the boys from dt will have to watch there team getting well beat in an all ireland with half a team.thats life thats football some one has to pay the piper and pay the piper they will on feb 12.hopefully both teams will hold there hands up and take there suspensions manfully none of this dra crap.we, are all gaa people same rules north south east or west .

setantameath (Meath) - Posts: 53 - 24/01/2012 14:17:24    1099411

Ciarrai36
County: Kerry
Posts: 2

1099180 Northerners have played there role in Southern liberation and none more so than Tyrone people.
Acquaint yourself with Irish history and hang your heads low.

Tyronetim. this has nothing to do with politics and they should be left well out of it. but nor does it have anything to do with tyrone or kerry and those seeking to make it that issue are wrong too. I am from the parish of Dromid and I can honestly say that while i feel derrytresk's antics went way overboard it is not a tyrone v Kerry issue. they are a club within tyrone, as Dromid, is one within Kerry. They are not "Tyrone" or "Kerry". for the sake of proper discussion and argument lets leave the anti Tyrone / anti nordi bias out of it and debate it on its own merits.

Ciarrai36 - read the opening post and the whole way through the dialogue since and tell me that this is not Anti-tyrone or anti-northern. Just read the post beside yours from a fellow Ciarrai man. Don't confuse history with politics either ..I drew on the historical importance of Tyrone to Ireland in general and the ridiculous attempt to stignatise people form this part of the world. The Battle of Kinsale should remind people who choose to do so the role played by Ulster and Tyrone men in your part of the world and erradicate forever this ridiculous trend of xenophobic hatred to "Nordies".
I agree that this should be a discussions on the match and the unsavoury aspects of it. A balanced view would be that Dromid were equally culpable though the subs getting involved has no place whatsoever. In the spirit of fairness i hope you'll concede that the Dromid players cehaved badly and should not have got involved with a Tresk official.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 24/01/2012 14:35:07    1099437