Another thread on the way to being locked.Cheers Ulsterman.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 30/10/2011 18:18:18    1060666

Tongo
County: UK
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1060536 Maybe they want to show a game of Gaelic Football rather than a brawl where a bit of Football might accidentally break out.

Would these two "brawlers" Tongo have been the last two winners of the All-Ireland ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 30/10/2011 19:47:01    1060720

Stand up for the ULSTER MAN! stand up for the ULSTER MAN! stand up our wee country producing All Ireland champions year in year out Club and County .

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 30/10/2011 20:45:53    1060776

shaggy I think that the games schedule is made out long before all the county finals are played and so hence the Ulster football game are played... so please be fair to the station... what would we do currently without their coverage?

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1881 - 30/10/2011 20:50:06    1060779

Anyway with the match not being on the tele had to travel to belfast to watch the game, i heard the kerry final was poor but i've seen the 2012 all ireland champions playing today in the flesh so happy enough, but logic should come first, not many people care about the kerry final.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 30/10/2011 20:57:56    1060787

not many people care about the kerry final.
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Really?

JuanPeron (Westmeath) - Posts: 177 - 30/10/2011 21:33:08    1060816

very big crowd, cross always on top, look there was no real media interest in this in the free state, even thought the last 2 winners of the all-ireland club title, were meeting in the first round, a fixture we all knew weeks ago,

cullaville and eire og also won, today, good for armagh football

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 30/10/2011 21:35:08    1060818

Right enough of the silly North/South arguing here. The bottom line is that TG4 should have televised a provincial club championship game and not a county final game. Cross vs St Galls being a favourite because both have won All Irelands in recent years. The majority of people who want to see the Crokes/Mid Kerry game are actually Kerry people who will be attending the match. Just like my own county, if Burren/Clonduff had've been televised with bigger games on it would've been dissapointing because the majority of Down people would be attending meaning the only other viewers are the other GAA followers around the country who lets be honest would far rather a provincial champ game.

gaelic_life (Down) - Posts: 286 - 31/10/2011 11:38:18    1060889

From a footballing perspective TG4 should have chosen Cross v St Galls as their main game as previous 2 AI club winners: however TG4 core audience is in west & southwest coast of Ireland and for commercial and logistical reasons the channel has to cater for advertising/ revenue and audience figures: hence the choice of Kerry Final: many armchair fans would tune in on Sunday afternoon regardless: having said that Kerry county final was poor fare as a spectacle

KevHill (Antrim) - Posts: 271 - 31/10/2011 12:49:59    1060923

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1060610
MesAmis have you been properly following the Presidential campaign, watching the debates, reading the papers/websites? If so you will see that I am correct. The abuse directed at the two Northern candidates was hateful and bitter because of where they were from. As I say the South is in TOTAL denial about this island and it's history.

Ulsterman. I did follow the Presidential campaign and I agree with you that the 2 Northern candidates, particularily McGuinness, got SOME abuse because of where they're from. I remember the woman on the Frontline debate who questiones McGuinness' right to 'come down here', a question that McGuinness handled excellently and exposed the woman's ignorance.

What you fail to see on a consistent basis is that you are the exact same as the woman mentioned above. You are no better than those you criticise but you just swap the North for the South. On this site your posts are easily the most partitionist in their nature.

As for the topic of the thread. TG4 said yesterday that their coverage of the provincial club championships isn't due to start until next week and this weekend was always scheduled for county finals. So less of the BS regarding their match selection.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13830 - 31/10/2011 13:10:39    1060937

Guys - getting abck to football - one poster suggested the reason it wouldn't show the Casement game was in case some football broke out from the brawl.

I watched the Kerry final yesterday - quite a bad tempered affair - a lot of hunting in packs..aka blanket defence..and quite a bit of pulling and dragging.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 31/10/2011 14:11:49    1060965

Lets say for example if yesterday 2 teams from lets say Munster who had won the last 2 club All Irelands were playing in the first round of the Munster Championship and TG4 was showing lets say the Donegal county final would the Ulster boys be on hear giving out about that?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 31/10/2011 14:34:44    1060980

I agree mesamis, TG4 do an excellent job and their provincial coverage isn't starting until next week. I was glad they were showing other matches as I was able to go to the Cross game and then come home and watch the other 2 games that I had recorded. Some people need to ease off on the conspiracy theories, TG4 is the best channel on TV.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 31/10/2011 14:46:55    1060982

MesAmis
Well said and balanced.
I think there is a genuyine sense of shock at the hostility shown towards McGuinness in particular and memories of Mary McAleese's election being greeted with "A tribal timebomb".
Most nationalists in the North consider themselves no different and there was a tone witnessed before from across the water and all neighbours here throughout.

As for TG4 - it would be interesting to know what their mandate is as it does favour the Gaeltacht areas - fair enough too.
For the comments made as to Irish spoke in the north - Conal Martin is rightly one of their best commentators..he's a neighbour and former Tyrone U-21.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 31/10/2011 16:24:06    1061030

You are a complete and utter clown Ulsterman who drags the conversation down at every opportunity to politics. "Take it down from the mast"-thats a fairly old chestnut and definitely uttered from somebody happy living in the past and happily thriving on misery. You really need to get down off the cross Ulsterman and try and remove that giant chip off your shoulder.

TG4 are an excellent station that try to give each county a fair crack of the whip with very limited resources. A lot of there matches are broadcasted predominantly in the western seaboard counties and a lot of that has to do with travel costs. There is also a tendency to concentrate on counties with high numbers of natural fluent Irish speakers. As a fluent Irish speaker myself living in a Gaeltacht area there is nothing worse than hearing the language being butchered by Northern pundits who "learned" the language at some night class.

Regarding the two candidates in the Presidential Election. What did you really expect with Martin McGuinness? Do you expect us to roll out the red carpet? I wont even go into his past history but the very fact that he couldnt vote speaks volumes. I wont insult you by telling you what I think of Dana.

Grow up Ulsterman

kingdomfan (Kerry) - Posts: 393 - 31/10/2011 18:05:33    1061082

KingdomFan

You started your riposte well enough and then the wheels came off.
As (I assume) a language enthusiast I would have thought you would have been delighted the language is embraced by those not fortunate enough to live in a Gaeltacht area. Your comment of "butchered by Northern pundits who "learned" the language at some night class" - smacks of pure snobbery. For the language to survive it will need more generations learning Irish by whatever means available.

As for McGuinness - how many of founding fathers of Fianna Fail/Sinn Fein or Cumann na Ghaedheal had clean hands and went on to hold the highest office in the Irish state. Martin McGuinness has won over many doubters by his actions now and his ability to bring us in the north to the place we are now. He has worked with Paisley, Robinson and enjoys the unfetterred support of the presbyterian moderator - each of these have been won over by him.
McGuinness has and continues to take great risks for peace on this island - there are many who regard him as a traitor (Former comrades) and his credibilty in their eyes greatly impugned. Does any of that resonate from the Civil war? Divisions that still exist in the 26 counties today.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 31/10/2011 18:26:06    1061090

LOL Brilliant kingdomfan you are a star, you vindicated everything I said without realising it. I suggest you go and look up the word irony in the dictionary oh and go and learn something about this island, it's history and the province of Ulster. Then again maybe not as it may deflate you a bit when you find out that the Northern province probably has more right to call itself the original Irish Gaelic province than the other 3 combined.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 31/10/2011 18:46:55    1061102

This is utterly farsical. Kingdomfan was outed as Ulsterman a few years back. Have you nothing better to do in East Belfast?

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 31/10/2011 19:15:28    1061118

Tell him it ain't so Kingdomfan, galling has finally lost it. Galling, the man with a political party for EVERY day of the week LOL.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 31/10/2011 19:22:05    1061125

Jesus Ulsterman this is pathetic. Surely everyone realises that this is an East Belfast unionist stirring partitionist nonsense all the time. H

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 31/10/2011 19:26:39    1061126