Well done to Tyrone today for beating Monaghan, hopefully the CCCC will study Monaghan's antics as close as they study Kerry's players. You can call it sour grapes if you like, I would just like they treat all teams the same way.

It is greatto see a great football team like Tyrone prevail today against a so called football team.

kerryrowz (Kerry) - Posts: 833 - 05/06/2011 20:03:39    948185

correct they were a disgrace, Whats the story with there players thay have to be one of the most braindead teams in ireland there to busy trying to play the hard man, i know they cant match an aging tyrone team when it comes to playing football but they ruined the match and what was the storey with the number 2 for monaghan he got a roasting but anytime there was abit of handbags he was in like a light pushing players around acting the hard man, hed want to focus more on playing football.

rubywalsh (Dublin) - Posts: 356 - 05/06/2011 21:10:24    948266

the last time someone started a thread about TYRONE V MONAGHAN it was banished to the Tyrone forum while other counties were allowed to stay on the main forum ? still kerry not often that I agree with my Derry cousins but over the last number of years Monaghan have become the Dirtiest team in Ulster if not Ireland

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 05/06/2011 21:15:15    948273

Agreed

222 (UK) - Posts: 876 - 05/06/2011 21:20:17    948284

Monaghan were a disgrace. Horrible nasty football, hope the get hammered in the qualifiers

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 05/06/2011 21:24:56    948291

Before today I actually liked watched Monaghan but I thought their discipline was awful. Just wondering what would have happened here? Their number 10 Stephen Gollogly hit out a couple of times at Philip Jordan. When the referee went to consult the linesman Monaghan substitited him and Jordan got a yellow card.

tir_eoghain_abu (Tyrone) - Posts: 773 - 05/06/2011 21:25:51    948294

Dirtiest team in ireland give me a break monaghan were on top of the fair play during the league. The conditions led to numerous yellow cards and poor officials also led to the game getting out of hand. What about Owen Mulligan? no mention of him striking colin walshe. There was nothing in gollogly's incident but the camera's didn't show that the players was injured and Jordan kept having digs at him before the incident. Dessie mone yes was a sending off. tyrone are no angels themselves so get off your high horse. Tyrone players were throwing themselves down like they were shot Dooher and penrose and when penrose was caught the referee booked him for simulation, boy that cried wolf.
It was an awful day for football

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 05/06/2011 21:34:33    948304

Football is a mans game both Kerry and Tyrone and the rest can give and take some hard fair hits as the rest, but what i have seen from Monaghan over the past five or six years is cynical off the ball, late hits on player when the ball is layed off, i only watched the game on the telly this evening, but Monaghan were a disgrace hopefully they get knocked out of the qualifiers as soon as possible.

Tyrone and Kerry Final you heard it hear first.

kerryrowz (Kerry) - Posts: 833 - 05/06/2011 21:53:28    948327

Yes, "it was an awful day for football" thanks to the dreadful lack of discipline on display by a bad tempered Monaghan....

No one should try to defend the indefensible........

caz (Tyrone) - Posts: 111 - 05/06/2011 21:57:51    948336

Bit harsh to come on here and hope for a team to get hammered. Ive seen Tyrone play dirty many times. Most counties are guilty of it!

MourneArmy (Down) - Posts: 1787 - 05/06/2011 21:58:39    948338

i hope the cccc will be having a look at Mulligans behaviour at the end it was him that started the scuffle

b.mullins (Dublin) - Posts: 1413 - 05/06/2011 22:01:01    948343

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948343 i hope the cccc will be having a look at Mulligans behaviour at the end it was him that started the scuffle

Think you'll find Mone's clothesline on Philly Jordan started the scuffle at the end.

RiceysBrother (Tyrone) - Posts: 125 - 06/06/2011 09:38:36    948368

i feel sorry for players like Darren hughes and Paul Finlay . they tried their hardest and played fair but some of the other Monaghan men were a disgrace. i agree penrose made the most of the high tackle but it WAS a high tackle and he shouldn't have been booked. the monaghan man should have been booked. also a few very dodgy refereeing decisions. why was philip jordan booked for the incident with stephen gollogly. and why were monagahan allowed to make a substitution without the referee's consent. (he was dealing with the incident at the time). I thought the ref had to be informed when a substitution takes place. also there was a clos-in free giving to Monaghan in the second half against a tyrone defender for picking the ball off the ground when it was clearly airborne. this insences me and refs do it all the time. it is as if they have never played the game. There is a major difference in picking a static ball off the ground and catching a ball that is moving near the ground . also what ever happenned to the illegal hand-pass it seems that this year anything goes. so much inconsistency it is maddenning.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 06/06/2011 10:02:52    948384

I think both Tyrone and Monaghan went out with a killer attitude that shouldn't have any place on any pitch.
The high number of yellow and reds (and there should have been 2 more reds) from a ref not known for drawing the book that often shows that it wasn't just Monaghan going out to hurt. Tyrone nor Monaghan are dirty teams, no more than others I'd say but the conditions weren't right for beautiful football.
Nonetheless both teams seemed happy enough to play it hard and rough. Clerkin was wrong and rightly sent off but Hughes and Mugsy also both committed offences that could have easily resulted in red cards. Mugsy's dig wasn't seen by the ref or the other officials so he got away with it and Hughes ultra-high dangerous tackle would have been a red card in both rugby and football.
Monaghan were certainly not the better team on the day but also not the worst and they would rightly feel robbed as a lot of decisions went again them.
All in all it was a dreadful day for football and hopefully not a sign of what Tyrone will show us this year.

flemishgael (Kerry) - Posts: 67 - 06/06/2011 10:51:33    948412

Its the Ulster Championship, get over it, you'd swear that you'd never seen this sort of thing before on football pitch!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 06/06/2011 10:56:57    948421

Oh so because its the Ulster Championship its fine...???.....get a grip man...!!!

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 06/06/2011 11:19:40    948450

The thing is that unfortunately we have seen it before in Ulster. Doesn't mean I will have to like watching it.
And before you start....I have to agree those negative tactics have creeped into Kerry's play as well at times but still doesn't mean I like it.
Kerry win most of their games by fast, free-flowing football and I'd almost like to see them not winning a match than winning it with negative play.
It is the way of the modern game though and I hate to admit that.It has to be stamped out.
On the other hand I feel that refs are whistling for each little dig now.
There used to be a much tougher attitude where you just elbow your marker back if he gives you a slight dig and that was that.
It's not sissy sacar and we shouldn't pretend there were never any hits in the GAA.
But it seems like some teams are building their tactics around hard tackling rather than around kicking a football.

flemishgael (Kerry) - Posts: 67 - 06/06/2011 11:22:37    948454

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948412 I think both Tyrone and Monaghan went out with a killer attitude that shouldn't have any place on any pitch.
The high number of yellow and reds (and there should have been 2 more reds) from a ref not known for drawing the book that often shows that it wasn't just Monaghan going out to hurt. Tyrone nor Monaghan are dirty teams, no more than others I'd say but the conditions weren't right for beautiful football.
Nonetheless both teams seemed happy enough to play it hard and rough. Clerkin was wrong and rightly sent off but Hughes and Mugsy also both committed offences that could have easily resulted in red cards. Mugsy's dig wasn't seen by the ref or the other officials so he got away with it and Hughes ultra-high dangerous tackle would have been a red card in both rugby and football.
Monaghan were certainly not the better team on the day but also not the worst and they would rightly feel robbed as a lot of decisions went again them.
All in all it was a dreadful day for football and hopefully not a sign of what Tyrone will show us this year.

Whether the ref is known for showing cards or not is irrelevant, and how you relate that to how dirty a team is amazes me. Sean Cavanagh was booked for being manhandled by Clerkin in what can only be described as a rugby hold. Colm Cavanagh was booked for fouling a player going through on goal, cynical? yes, dirty? no. The same applies for Davy Harte. The only Tyrone player I recall getting booked for a dirty tackle was Hughes, however on watching it a couple of times it was not that bad and a booking sufficed. Mugsy's dig was missed by the referee, as was what provoked it. Think of Galvin and Ricey a few years back and you will get the jist of why Mugsy did what he did. The most puzzling part of your post however is the notion that Monaghan had the decisions go against them. In relation to the sending offs, Clerkin probably should have went earlier. Mone had no complaints as can be seen by his reaction and they were allowed to substitute another player before he got a second yellow. Mugsy could have went(bear in mind that in was in injury time) as could Walshe. Monaghan scored a grand total of 0-2 from play aided and abetted by some of the most generous frees I have seen in a long time. We appear now to have a new rule where it's a foul to catch the ball half a foot from the ground!! Both penalties were extremely soft in my opinion, but there was no doubt that he was going to give Monaghan a penalty even before the tackle. As for being a dreadful day for football, there was plenty of good points in my view. Stephen O'Neill's three points were of the highest quality as was Mugsy's. Both Monaghan's points from play were excellent and Tyrone's goal was as good as what you'll see this year. Of course it got scrappy at times, but in tight games that is what happens. You should also bear in mind that it rained consistently heavy in Omagh ffrom very early yesterday morning and depite the pitch being in great shape, the conditions for football were poor.

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 06/06/2011 13:00:10    948575

I loved how for some reason RTE tried to make out Dick Clerkin as an unfortunate victim, he should have been sent off well before that and he clearly blocked Cavanagh and not by accident.

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 06/06/2011 13:58:06    948650

it says alot about the munster football championship when a kerry man has to start a thread about monaghan v tyrone on the weekend his own province held their semi finals!!! monaghan lost yesterday because they made to many mistakes, this crap about them being a dirty team is nonsense, they give as good as they got and fair play to them for standing up to the tyrone players, ye all think they walk on water but you watch them off the ball and you will see what they are all about, they are as dirty as they come but they are smarter than most too, thats how they get away with it and fair play to them. monaghan might only of scored 2points from play but that was due to the constant fouling on and off the ball by tyrone. obviously we were fouling too but they got frees a lot handier today than we did, fair enough it wasnt a lift ball at the end but thats the only decision that went against tyrone all day. mickey harte wouldnt comment on the referee after the game because he knew that he was shockinly in favour of tyrone!!! best of luck to tyrone in the next round

coco83 (Monaghan) - Posts: 10 - 06/06/2011 14:12:17    948664