Why can people not look at his suggestions seriously and debate them? It's an excellent idea he has came up with, a bit of success in the Ladies ranks will breed more success, within a decade they could be in Division 1 or 2 of the Ladies football league. In time they could could then move back to playing with their own gender. Outside the box thinking like this is required if we want Kilkenny to be a force in the one true sport of the GAA

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 04/05/2011 12:44:59    923313

Popery having a try at humour......funny peculiar not funny ha ha

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 04/05/2011 13:00:17    923330

we could just set a forest fire and burn all the ash out of kilkenny ,start kicking footballs across the bridge in new ross to them then

bogstandard (Wexford) - Posts: 799 - 04/05/2011 13:02:29    923331

perhaps the involvement of the recent beatified john paul II could help kilkenny. any kilkenny improvement however slight could well fast track his holiness to the realms of sainthood.

BufordTJustice (USA) - Posts: 669 - 04/05/2011 13:15:53    923346

bogstandard
County: Wexford
Posts: 595

923331
we could just set a forest fire and burn all the ash out of kilkenny ,start kicking footballs across the bridge in new ross to them then
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I heard before that a theory about the historical weakness of hurling in some counties was due to a lack of ash for hurls and/ or cork for sliothars in those areas.

Now it probably is complete BS, but it could be a factor in why football is so dominant is most places north of Offaly.

Any historical botanists here to prove me right/ wrong ?

JuanPeron (Westmeath) - Posts: 177 - 04/05/2011 13:19:48    923351

That's correct many counties were overrun with sliotars while many had an infestation of hurls so after years of falling over on the sliotars and bateing other with the hurls these counties naturally turned to football.

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 04/05/2011 13:30:06    923362

PomeroyPlunkett
If they start playing with Ladies a little more than success might be breed!

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3024 - 04/05/2011 13:59:34    923390

ochonlir:

Like which counties prey tell O foolish one!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 04/05/2011 14:07:32    923399

Read it again

The notion that people would produce hurls with no sliotars and visa vers is absurd

It take it satire is not part of your curriculum this year

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 04/05/2011 14:17:01    923416

Poor Pomeroy!!!!! Hes got himself to the stage now that the majority of posters just ignore him. Brillant!!!!

lasttoknow (Tyrone) - Posts: 99 - 04/05/2011 14:32:48    923441

Kilkenny GAA
Hurling
All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship: 32
1904, 1905, 1907, 1909, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1922, 1932, 1933, 1935, 1939, 1947, 1957, 1963, 1967, 1969, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1992, 1993, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
All-Ireland Intermediate Hurling Championship: 3
1973, 2008, 2010
All-Ireland Under-21 Hurling Championships: 11
1974, 1975, 1977, 1984, 1990, 1994, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008
All-Ireland Minor Hurling Championship: 20
1931, 1935, 1936, 1950, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1981, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 2002, 2003, 2008, 2010[1]
All-Ireland Junior Hurling Championships: 9
1928, 1946, 1951, 1956, 1984, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1995
All-Ireland Vocational Schools Championships: 8
1963, 1973, 1972, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1991
National Hurling League: 14
1933, 1962, 1966, 1976, 1982, 1983, 1986, 1990, 1995, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2009
Leinster Senior Hurling Championships: 67
1888, 1893, 1895, 1897, 1898, 1900, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1907, 1909, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1916, 1922, 1923, 1925, 1926, 1931, 1932, 1933, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1939, 1940, 1943, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1950, 1953, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1967, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
Leinster Under-21 Hurling Championships: 23
1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009
Leinster Minor Hurling Championships: 53
1930, 1931, 1932, 1933, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1939, 1942, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010
Leinster Intermediate Hurling Championships: 12
1967, 1973, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009
Leinster Junior Hurling Championships: 25
1909, 1911, 1913, 1916, 1928, 1930, 1935, 1939, 1941, 1946, 1949, 1951, 1956, 1958, 1983, 1984, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2002
Kehoe Cup: 1
1980
Walsh Cup: 16
1955, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1970, 1973, 1974, 1988, 1989, 1992, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009
[edit] RecordsMost All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship Titles: 32
Most All-Ireland Under-21 Hurling Championship Titles: 11 [tied Cork]
Most All-Ireland Minor Hurling Championship Titles: 20
Most Provincial Senior Hurling Championship Titles: 66
Most Provincial U21 Hurling Championship Titles: 23
Most Provincial Minor Hurling Championship Titles: 52
Most Provincial Intermediate Hurling Championship Titles: 12
Longest Unbeaten Hurling Championship Run: 21 Games
All-time top scorer All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship: Eddie Keher - 36-307 (415pts)
Highest score in All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship final: 3-30 (2008 v Waterford) [tied Cork 1970]

Gaelic Football
Leinster Senior Football Championships: 3
1888, 1900, 1911

Donegal
HonoursAll-Ireland Senior Football Championships: 1
1992
All-Ireland Under-21 Football Championships: 2
1982, 1987
All-Ireland Vocational Schools Championships:6
1984, 1985, 1995, 1996, 2002, 2011
Ulster Senior Football Championships: 5
1972, 1974, 1983, 1990, 1992
Ulster Minor Football Championships: 4
1956, 1985, 1991, 1996, 2006,
Ulster Under-21 Football Championships: 7
1963, 1964, 1966, 1982, 1987, 1995, 2010
Ulster Vocational Schools Football Championships: 11
1964 1965 1984 1985 1986 1987 1992 1994 1995 1996 2002
National Football League: 1
2007
Dr. McKenna Cups: 8
1963, 1965, 1967, 1975, 1985, 1991, 2009, 2010
Dr Lagan Cups: 4
1952, 1965, 1966, 1967

Hurling
Ulster Senior Hurling Championships: 3
1906, 1923, 1932
Ulster Junior Hurling Championships: 6
1947, 1948, 1972, 1989, 2001, 2003

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 04/05/2011 16:15:17    923568

Kilkenny have 3 Leinster titles!!!!!

Only 2 provincial titles behind Donegal.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13792 - 04/05/2011 16:21:41    923578

Puddersthecat
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 1477

Not to mention Ducksie

1977 Under 12 Doubles 60 x 30 Joe Walsh
1978 Under 12 Singles 60 x 30
1979 Under 14 Doubles 60 x 30 Joe Walsh
1980 Under 14 Singles 40 x 20
1980 Under 14 Singles 60 x 30
1981 Under 16 Doubles 40 x 20 Joe Walsh
1982 Under 16 Singles 40 x 20
1982 Under 16 Singles 60 x 30
1982 Minor Singles 60 x 30
1982 Minor Doubles 60 x 30 Liam Law
1983 Minor Singles 40 x 20
1983 Minor Singles 60 x 30
1983 Minor Doubles 60 x 30 Joe Walsh
1983 Junior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1984 Minor Singles 40 x 20
1984 Minor Doubles 40 x 20 Pearse O'Keeffe
1984 Minor Singles 60 x 30
1984 Minor Doubles 60 x 30 Pearse O'Keeffe
1984 Minor Singles Hardball
1984 Minor Doubles Hardball Pearse O'Keeffe
1984 Junior Singles 40 x 20 Centenary Tournament
1985 Junior Singles 40 x 20
1985 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1985 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1986 Senior Singles 40 x 20
1986 Senior Doubles 40 x 20 Michael Reade
1986 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1987 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1987 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1988 Senior Singles 40 x 20
1988 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1988 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1989 Senior Singles 40 x 20
1989 Senior Doubles 40 x 20 Michael Reade
1989 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1989 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1990 Senior Singles 40 x 20
1990 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1990 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1991 Senior Singles 40 x 20
1991 Junior Singles Hardball
1991 Junior Doubles Hardball John Connolly
1991 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1991 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1992 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1993 Irish Open 40 x 20
1993 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1993 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1994 Senior Doubles 40 x 20 DJ Carey
1994 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1995 Senior Doubles 40 x 20 DJ Carey
1995 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1995 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1996 Senior Singles 40 x 20
1996 Irish Nationals 40 x 20
1996 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1996 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1997 Senior Singles 60 x 30
1997 Senior Doubles 60 x 30 Eugene Downey
1998 Senior Singles 40 x 20
1998 Senior Doubles 40 x 20 DJ Carey
1998 Leinster Open 40 x 20
1999 Munster Open 60 x 30
1999 Senior Singles 60 x 30
2000 Senior Singles 60 x 30


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USHA Championships
Year Grade
1981 15 & Under
1982 17 & Under
1985 19 & Under
1989 23 & Under

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dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 04/05/2011 16:47:27    923611

pudders if we wanred to check the records we could easily go to many a site to do so whats your point? your county is taking the piss end of. As i said earlier if every county decided to put all their resources into one code the gaa record books could look a lot different the fact is many small counties put out two competitive codes and kid in kk dont get a chance to play football because the powers that be have decided that oppertunty will not be made available to them in their communities schools or otherwise .

booboo (Cork) - Posts: 1382 - 04/05/2011 21:18:09    923895

Good post pudders

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 04/05/2011 21:36:14    923918

onc im not surprised solidarity would come fom a cavan man your doing the same regards hurling thankfully with ye have a cork man in your vicinity to TRY and change things of course the usual ignorant people will try to rebuff our efforts but im sure we will suceed ..who knows if we pick the standard up to your satisfaction you may actuall go and watch your FIRST cavan hurling club game who knows?

booboo (Cork) - Posts: 1382 - 04/05/2011 21:47:49    923939

Pudders / Mes Amis:

Not sure what your point is and what relationship Donegal football has to the present state of Kilkenny football.

I'm still waiting any alternative proposals to the one proposed for the development of Kilkenny football. Your inability to provide one only makes the proposal I offered all the more necessary.

Mes Amis - you haven't come back to me on the population issue and Dublin's 408 All Irelands....???

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 04/05/2011 21:58:04    923960

thanking yourself bobo is very gracious, but im not so convinced that you will succeed if you call people who are not of your opinion ignorant. if there ever is a hurling team in cavan it will be because people want to play not because angry moaners throw insults.

solidarity? i think that its interesting that someone went to the trouble to outline all kks achievements to prove a point. I suspect that you are irked by kk hurling prowess and are using this forum to deplore them, you cant get your head around the fact that kk are no 1.

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 05/05/2011 12:58:12    924171

onc not sure you understand the thread nothing new there

booboo (Cork) - Posts: 1382 - 05/05/2011 14:00:23    924241

ochonlir:

Listing Kilkennys achievements doesn't prove anything. It doesnt alter the present state of Kilkenny football nor does it offer any solution. At least playing in D4 of the ladies league would be a step in the right direction...

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 05/05/2011 14:15:48    924251