ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3752

866881 seamus
annihilate .. not a bad idea .

annihaltion is your only man, if only that king herod lad was up to his task.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 13/02/2011 21:54:59    866968

MesAmis

I'm aware that Christians have occasionally used violence to spread our religion. This is in direct contradiction to what the founder, Jesus Christ, ordered us to do. Muslims have also used violence to spread their religion. This is not in contradiction to their founder, Muhammad, who was a warlord himself.

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 13/02/2011 21:56:22    866971

derryman

Ancient Arabic culture is very different to Muslim culture. It would be like trying to claim that football originated in China, so Bhuddism is responsible for the sport.

We use the Arabic numeric system, which is possibly what you mean by Mathematics, but numerics are just a way of denoting numbers. The Greeks had a different numberic system (which has fallen by the wayside).
Basic mathematics (adding, subtracting, multiplying) have been evidenced as being used in some form or another by pre-historic civilisations in most parts of the "Old World," and this does include Egypt, and ancient Babylon (modern-day Iraq).
The Greeks were the first to develop mathematics beyond basic arithmetic (Pythagoras et. al).

The Persian empire (which) was Islamic is responsible for many developments in Algebra, and do deserve credit for that.

black&white (Sligo) - Posts: 1628 - 13/02/2011 22:00:04    866980

derryman.
in all fairness derryman , i am no product of u.s or british propaganda , i can actually make up my own mind and determine what is right and wrong without watching c.n.n or a.b.c news , i take each issue on how i see it , you cannot look at one subject or debate , and follow it through with the same conviction when looking at something completly different , you have to take each debate and subject and look at each one from different angles , no good following party policy because they say so , now thats propaganda , make up your own mind on how see and perceive things , take every case and reply with sincerity on how you see things unfolding , i think its very sad to be classed a racist because you share views of a caring nature and you maybe want the world to be a better place , and when you see your faith under threat from a regime that has absolutaly no time for ones faith , then i am sorry but i will not stand for it , i will speak out against facism extremism or any other form of threat , there is a terrible mistrust at the moment from millions of people , and i am not so sure if this because of american propaganda , these people are genuinely scared derryman ,you cannot brush that under the carpet , and by doing so you will create facism , we need to be looking at what really is going on in the world today , i want a peaceful society for all mankind i really do , but when you have groups of zealots who are hell bent on mass murder to further their cause of supremecy in the western society with total disregard for other faiths , then i am afraid we will have to fight fire with fire , and send the united states military at all costs to protect what has been precious and secret to all our lives , and the priinciples and our way of life , which at the minute is secretly been eroded and no one cannot see this coming .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 14/02/2011 08:38:33    866996

seamus89.
by the way for the record i have stopped supporting sinn fein a long time ago because i am not going to be led blind , although i wish no malice towards republicans i am a republican i take every case , and see fit how i respond , not part policy .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 14/02/2011 08:41:29    866999

Patrique stop running yer mouth just because "you like to hear yourself".You are a great satirist and a sarcasm master but you are a fence sitter at times when its necessary to be on one side or another.So myself and Ta pick the side of the west and our way of life and we are suddenly bigots just for that.You lot are cowards is more like it with your "stickie" mentality.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 14/02/2011 09:29:52    867015

seanie_boy.
there is blindness and a ina bility to read the bigger picture , thats whats missing and the bigger agendas goe unoticed . ba ba black sheep material , when you have a genuine opinion and speak up . gosh shock horror your a bigot . thats partly why the world is in a mess and the current threat that comes with it , it will not all islamic extremism that will destroy western demrocracy and our ways of life . it will be people like patrique that will do the digger work for them , and his intelligence cannot even see that , so he responds with sarcasm .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 14/02/2011 10:49:07    867076

It's worked for some... but not for others.

Just like everything

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 14/02/2011 11:24:20    867113

ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3756

Great response to derryman ta, well done. I think Islamo-fascism has flourished in Britain because the policy designed to counter-act it i.e multiculturalism and tolerance, has backfired dramatically. Ironically it thrives on being isolated and left alone. What must be done now, is the state must FORCE all immigrants to become national citizens, and make them revere only one flag.

This is the will of several European leaders whose countries have suffered because of un-regulated Islamic immigration. France, Britain and Germany have ghettos, where no white national will dare enter. So why did this happen? Because appeasement has failed against Islam.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 14/02/2011 11:42:02    867143

seargent_slash.
thank you . its just the way i see things and i will be not afraid to speak my mind and pull no punches by doing so .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 14/02/2011 12:57:50    867230

ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3758

867230
seargent_slash.
thank you . its just the way i see things and i will be not afraid to speak my mind and pull no punches by doing so .

How brave

JuanVeron (Westmeath) - Posts: 1866 - 14/02/2011 13:09:34    867247

ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3758

867230 seargent_slash.
thank you . its just the way i see things and i will be not afraid to speak my mind and pull no punches by doing so .

good man, and as democrat i'm sure you have no problem with others sticking rigidly to their beliefs,,,,

it wont make for good progress but will keep the slogan painters busy..

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 14/02/2011 13:44:57    867286

867143 ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3756

Great response to derryman ta, well done. I think Islamo-fascism has flourished in Britain because the policy designed to counter-act it i.e multiculturalism and tolerance, has backfired dramatically. Ironically it thrives on being isolated and left alone. What must be done now, is the state must FORCE all immigrants to become national citizens, and make them revere only one flag.

How would you FORCE them? would this Apply to unionists in Northern Ireland also?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 14/02/2011 13:46:37    867289

ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3758


by the way for the record i have stopped supporting sinn fein a long time ago.

Would you be inclined to support any political movement since you ceased supporting SF?

Are you an SDLP man?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 14/02/2011 13:48:29    867292

I think we can gather from this thread that whatever about Multiculturism working or not in western europe it seems to be thriving in Tyrone

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 14/02/2011 13:50:58    867296

Ta you don't honestly believe some of the stuff you're saying here do you?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 14/02/2011 13:51:12    867297

juanveron.
nothing about being brave . just open and honest in how i feel , try it without sarcasm you will find it might help .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 14/02/2011 14:09:46    867322

pomeroyplunkett.
now come on plunkett .. yes i do believe it and i stand by everthing i say in regards to a issue that i have stong convictions and principles to.

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 14/02/2011 14:19:44    867330

dhorse.
no horse no other party .. i think we have covered that ground before do not vote anymore . does that clear that ?

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 14/02/2011 14:21:16    867332

How would you FORCE them? would this Apply to unionists in Northern Ireland also?
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You do surprise me with your occasionally ingenious ideas.And no guilt whatsoever as they did it to us before,right?

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 14/02/2011 14:40:22    867358