dellboy

The thing is, the GAA need to come out & clearly state what is required by a host venue.
A) Supply umpires or not
B) How many stewards
C) Medical provisions & staff
D) Home venue official match report as a nuetral

these are just some options, but if this sort of thing was in place it might help.

But as usual the GAA will stay silent & watch on as the individuals drag each other through the dirt.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 19/08/2010 21:59:20    751101

Dundalk Gael

Im not saying to let the clubs decide, im on about the county boards reviewing it better.
Sometimes they seem to have a very lazy approach to appointing refs.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 19/08/2010 22:01:06    751104

Now we hear that a referee was assaulted by both teams in a senior championship game in London.

This is getting a bit ridiculous now at this stage.

Trenchman (Waterford) - Posts: 114 - 20/08/2010 20:47:16    751866

You'll always have these pompous gits of referees getting abused. I can see Dell getting his comeuppance some day soon.

Hold them accountable for their mistakes the same way that players are held accountable if they err and that'll go some way to curbing these incidents we see and hear about.

BufordTJustice (USA) - Posts: 669 - 20/08/2010 21:06:48    751882

I have to laugh i come from an area labelled "Stab city" and if someone attacked a Ref he would be linched by his own club, but maybe the Ref should sue the Catholic church for lack of divine intervention.

freetaker1 (Limerick) - Posts: 758 - 21/08/2010 12:10:55    752044

freetaker, there are a number of clubs in Limerick who have a problems with all referees even if they win.. Doon, St. Pats (in particular), Ballybrown to name a few.. No matter what happens in a game there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for a ref being threatened, abused or assaulted. Clubs need to be fined by the CB and the refs association in Limerick is very weak.. The people running it are not prepared to stand up and be counted..

donkeyford (Limerick) - Posts: 119 - 22/08/2010 17:47:48    752896

Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 2805

751101 dellboy

The thing is, the GAA need to come out & clearly state what is required by a host venue.
A) Supply umpires or not
B) How many stewards
C) Medical provisions & staff
D) Home venue official match report as a nuetral



A if a ref comes to a game the venue that is holding the match have to provide umpires really however most refs bring there own.

B They must have enough stewards to deal with crowd control and match officals coming off a field.

C I always thought there was medical stall at grounds anyhow.

D could you explain this one please .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/08/2010 19:52:01    754163

BufordTJustice big man hiding behind a computer screen.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/08/2010 20:03:20    754175

Dell

I was stating options for rules that could be implemented or enforced better.
I wasn't claiming that they were current rules.
No need to ridicule my post, it was only an opinion on how things could be improved.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 23/08/2010 20:10:09    754182

Jinxie no no not having pops at your post but A and B you mentioned are rules for clubs holding matches and i was asking what you meant about D as i do not understand so you have picked me up wrong and yes your right about ideas .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/08/2010 20:42:26    754219

Ok dell, apologies for that.

The point I was making regarding another match report is that in instances like the one that prompted this thread could be helped by an official report from a third party on the actual incidnts themselves.
For example, if a player remonstrates with a ref after a game, then the refs repot on that individual incident is one mans word against the next, but because one of them is the ref, his word is accepted, wether or not he is actually in the right or the wrong.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 23/08/2010 21:48:12    754319

Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 2809

754319

Well i think a ref is not going to lie in any of his match reports to be fair but point taking .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/08/2010 22:00:09    754341

dellboy, where is it in the official rule book that clubs must provide umpires and stewards??

donkeyford (Limerick) - Posts: 119 - 24/08/2010 08:40:48    754351

Dell

I'm not suggesting the ref would lie at all. But if he becomes part of an altercation, then it comes down to one word against another & the player/mentor/official is always going to feel they aren't getting a fair deal.
That puts the ref in an unfair position too, whereas an independent match report might help avoid that instance.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 24/08/2010 10:55:38    754488

donkeyford
County: Limerick
Posts: 54

754351 dellboy, where is it in the official rule book that clubs must provide umpires and stewards??


Not in the rule book but when they get a letter to send back with gate money 25% , on that letter states they must provide stewards and umpires if ref is short .Jinxie i do see your points but refs like me try to be fair in reports but if get abused etc i will put it in the report .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/08/2010 14:55:20    754903

Dellboypolecat

Dell as a referee i think you need to cop on yourself and if you ever saw this "Ref" ref a game you would be entralled or maybe not ....

theroyalrealist (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 24/08/2010 15:01:58    754922

theroyalrealist
County: Meath
Posts: 1

754922 Dellboypolecat

Dell as a referee i think you need to cop on yourself and if you ever saw this "Ref" ref a game you would be entralled or maybe not


Think your the one that needs to cop on wonder what username your under because your far from new here , and just a quiestion suppose you think the poor ref in donegal deserve to get his jaw broke ? no ref deserves to be assaulted

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/08/2010 15:09:53    754942

Poor aul Dell getting a bashing here from every angle.

I have a question for you though. Were you at the game in question? or at any other game in which the referee in question was officiating?

How can you defend something so much when you clearly don't know the curcumstances.

Yours In Sport,
Joseff

joseff (Louth) - Posts: 964 - 24/08/2010 15:33:49    754988

joseff
County: Louth
Posts: 833

Not getting a bashing but do not expect a louth man to understand that assualts on refs are wrong and a disgrace no matter what happened in a game.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/08/2010 15:38:03    754997

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 12502

754997 joseff
County: Louth
Posts: 833

Not getting a bashing but do not expect a louth man to understand that assualts on refs are wrong and a disgrace no matter what happened in a game.
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Typical response Dell, when your losing an argument here on this forum you just don't answer the question.

So I take from that, you never saw this referee in action.

Did you bother to read what was said about this referee in earlier posts on this thread?
If you don't know about this referee (or the game in question) how can you be standing up for him so much?

Perhaps the real thing emerging from this is that how can referees that have caused contraversity down through the years be allowed continue to officiate.
Maybe you can answer this one Dell, are referees noe assessed at club level too?

Yours In Sport,
Joseff

joseff (Louth) - Posts: 964 - 24/08/2010 15:52:54    755026