Can we take it from TB's latest rant that Pat Kerwick & Seamus Callanan were also "feigning" injury? 8000 at Nowlan Park last night to see Tommy,Henry & John being put through their paces by the most successful hurling manager ever to coach a team in an era where skill,stamina & match fitness were never better epitomised. Attempting to compare the early to mid 60s (where games ended in cricket scores & you could legally bundle sliotar & goalkeeper into the net) with the superhuman modern athletes (not men but giants) is disingenuous in the extreme and really shows up certain people's total ignorance of modern day hurling by even attempting to make such a comparison. Just one question. How many inter county teams do you think Niall Paterson (Antrim) or Seanie O Leary (Cork) would walk onto in the modern era? And finally maths wasn't my greatest subject at schools but seven out of ten AIs in one decade appeas to be slightly more than four AIs a decade (by the way Kk won three in the 60s,Wx won two so Tipp lost more than they won-slightly disappointing for a so-called "greatest ever team!"). Still I think we'll concur on one thing-four AIs in ten years sounds a lot more impressive than four in forty five years!

naglfar95 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 24 - 26/08/2010 11:18:41    756699

tiobraid
County: Tipperary
Posts: 962

Sorry Tiobraid, got it mixed up with John Dalton (dont know how). I wasnt really aiming the "cockiness" at you but there is some posters that are nearly full sure they'll win.

They're a lot of Kilkenny supporters in Carlow and my father is from the Kilkenny Tipp border and I have been to nearly every Kilkenny match since I was 6 months old.

hurlingguru (Carlow) - Posts: 1863 - 26/08/2010 11:54:10    756749

what kind of stupid games is Cody playing: If Shefflin ruptured his cruciate hed be out for 6 months. Nothing wrong with him!!

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 26/08/2010 12:09:13    756763

what does our record have to do with this? oh and by the way tipp are the only team to win an all ireland each decade if that isn't impressive i don't know what it and by the way bring on welch shefflin and co i'm still confident tipp can beat them

moddy91 (Tipperary) - Posts: 226 - 26/08/2010 12:18:18    756778

thurles,

He would be out for six months if he had surgery which he hasnt had yet.

hurlingguru (Carlow) - Posts: 1863 - 26/08/2010 12:28:56    756789

This bigging up of Tipp winning an All-Ireland each decade really is wearing thin now. It proves nothing. A team could win an All-Ireland in 1981 and then not win one for nearly another 20 years until 1999 and still keep up this claim of winning one every decade. Boogaloo. People using mindless statistics to back up their arguments.

Tongo (UK) - Posts: 1795 - 26/08/2010 12:28:59    756790

tongo:
i'm just stating a fact not a mindless statistic no need to get in a twist over it

moddy91 (Tipperary) - Posts: 226 - 26/08/2010 12:46:57    756808

Well it looks like it is all mind games by Cody in an attempt to take the pressure of 5 in a row off his team however Tipp will not care which men are in the black and amber it does not matter to us, personally I hope they are all fully fit. Tipp are not afraid of any of these kk players be they who they may. Bring it on, 10 days and counting

tipptothetop (Tipperary) - Posts: 531 - 26/08/2010 13:02:42    756822

Well it looks like it is all mind games by Cody in an attempt to take the pressure of 5 in a row off his team however Tipp will not care which men are in the black and amber it does not matter to us, personally I hope they are all fully fit. Tipp are not afraid of any of these kk players be they who they may. Bring it on, 10 days and counting

tipptothetop (Tipperary) - Posts: 531 - 26/08/2010 13:09:06    756830

I can't see Kilkenny losing this game with or without Shefflin. Tipp had their chance last year and Cody will have learned from that, Kilkenny by six points.

bryanadams (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 26/08/2010 13:24:21    756844

Well it looks like it is all mind games by Cody in an attempt to take the pressure of 5 in a row off his team however Tipp will not care which men are in the black and amber it does not matter to us, personally I hope they are all fully fit. Tipp are not afraid of any of these kk players be they who they may. Bring it on, 10 days and counting
tipptothetop , 26/08/2010 at 13:09

I couldnt agree more

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 26/08/2010 13:50:32    756878

good to see some fighting talk from the tipp lads here, fair play to you. i couldnt believe the amount of tipp people who seemed plaeased with a 'moral' victory last year. maybe thats just a reflection of how good this kilkenny team is. That said they are only human and are beatable, a good start is essential for tipp

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4678 - 26/08/2010 14:00:09    756889

Henry and John are putting their future wellbeing at risk in their desire to play their part in KKs bid to make history,anyone who says Cody is playing mind games dont know what they are talking about,it was obvious to any of the people in Nowlan Park last night that it is highly unlikely JT will play any part in The AI,while he hit a few ballls in the match he doesnt have the mobility to play in an AI,Henry was more mobile than JT but still wasnt as mobile as he would like to be,well thats my opinion,Brian doesnt need to play mind games,can anyone here give an example of when he did? the only game here is the AI and the desire of 2 players to play their part,its an example of their love of the game and their county,nothing more,nothing less

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 543 - 26/08/2010 14:07:23    756905

I agree Mooncat, mind games would be none of the injured players playing until the morning of the final & then suddenly appearing.

I just think it's this simple - they want to play so he is testing them out. If they are fit & well they will play, if not they won't. Either way Kilkenny will be strong for the final, they've great players in reserve. The thing is the first XV for both teams are going to give & take a lot of big hits in the first 20 minutes and after that we will know more about the fitness of the players.

Last years final was physical with plenty of skill. This year's one could be exactly the same.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6628 - 26/08/2010 16:03:57    757028

i respect them i wouldn't be in awe of them especially with the potential 5 in a row what doesn't endear me to them is the constant 4 all irelands in 40 years crap they like to remind us of really annoying as for hypocrisy ah mehh

moddy91 (Tipperary) - Posts: 226 - 26/08/2010 17:06:20    757116

i respect them i wouldn't be in awe of them especially with the potential 5 in a row what doesn't endear me to them is the constant 4 all irelands in 40 years crap they like to remind us of really annoying as for hypocrisy ah mehh
moddy91 , 26/08/2010 at 17:06
Ignore them moddy 91 just as well we only won 4 ou of 40 or wed have about 50 all irelands by now but we are on the way to dominating the next ten years anyway including this one shure Cork and Kilkenny only caught up on us beacause we only won the 4 out of 40 let them enjoy it while the giant slept

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 26/08/2010 17:14:53    757129

thurlesblues
County: Tipperary
Posts: 1115

757129 i respect them i wouldn't be in awe of them especially with the potential 5 in a row what doesn't endear me to them is the constant 4 all irelands in 40 years crap they like to remind us of really annoying as for hypocrisy ah mehh
moddy91 , 26/08/2010 at 17:06
Ignore them moddy 91 just as well we only won 4 ou of 40 or wed have about 50 all irelands by now but we are on the way to dominating the next ten years anyway including this one shure Cork and Kilkenny only caught up on us beacause we only won the 4 out of 40 let them enjoy it while the giant slept

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Just as well we only won 4 out of 40?? That's a very odd statement.
I'll only mention the 4 in 40 years to someone whose argument is always so ridiculous. I feel sorry for the genuine tipp supporters on here who make a good debateable point only for thurlesblues to come on and add his tripe to the end of it. I'm glad he's not from KK or I'd be pulling my hair out as soon as he sticks up a post.

KKInDub (Kilkenny) - Posts: 39 - 26/08/2010 17:28:38    757154

slayer:

Aye layer I'd be happier if you were tipping Kilkenny for the win the way your predictions went the last time.... I could understand you saying that waterford could beat tipp but I still can understand you thinking cork would beat kilkenny.... But then again you always have had a fondness for the underdog ;)

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 26/08/2010 17:45:41    757184

Best of luck to Tipperary. Painful as it is to say it, Tipperary's mind wasn't on it, that day at the Pairc. Against Kilkenny, Cork seemed stuck to the ground and made Kilkenny's job easier with their stupid hand-passing. Kilkenny would have won, anyway, but I would have liked to see Cork giving them a bit more opposition. If Tipperary are firing on all cylinders for the entire match, it will be close, maybe even a draw.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 646 - 26/08/2010 17:52:05    757199

Midleton:

To a degree I'd agree with you but I'd say aswell Cork played a tactical game which tipp failed to react to aiske contributed to 3-5 of corks scores.... put it down as a lesson learned the hard way and was the kick in the a*se they needed.... Hope to see cork hurling get a chance to start to rebuild now new faces are needed and although the team of the early to mid 00's was a great team it still needs fresh blood.... also cork need to start concentration on underage althought they have teams that work hard I haven't seen that many stand out players.... But cork will still be a tough team to play in the years to come.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 26/08/2010 18:01:01    757210