Ah Finglas full ba that's very harsh. IMO only pomeroy plonker is at it. I didn't hear a whistle but I was on the hill and all I could hear was cheering and singing. I can understand the annoyance but doubt it impacted the game.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 02/08/2010 21:56:47    733594

Jackeen there was a whistle blowing everytime tyrone attacked but should not be a issue

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 02/08/2010 21:59:50    733604

Well we all know what the Dubs are like so there will twice as many with whistles for the Cork game, what are the Gaa going to do to stop this?? search people on the way in or get stewarts do a bit of work!
no they will do nothing until it becomes a major issuse and there are serious calls for a replay and then they will hide and say it is out of there hands.

Kieran (None) - Posts: 118 - 03/08/2010 08:18:30    733621

Jackeen
County: Dublin
Posts: 973

733594 Ah Finglas full ba that's very harsh. IMO only pomeroy plonker is at it. I didn't hear a whistle but I was on the hill and all I could hear was cheering and singing. I can understand the annoyance but doubt it impacted the game.


Was on Hill, a rare event, myself and don't know how anyone could distinguish any whistle or noise out of that barrage! Gas too that one of the irate posters here is clearly talking about a completely different incident involving Penrose than everyone else :-)

As for cheating, one could refer to lads falling like the Twin Towers anytime a hand was put near them but that would be wrong. Dublin have had all sorts of bad luck and decisions going against them in last 7/8 years and they've taken it - same way as Harte incidentially - so best leave this go. What goes around comes around. We had a bit of luck on Saturday, another day it will be someone else.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 03/08/2010 08:52:29    733637

and was this magic whistle set to a frequency where only the Tyrone lads could hear it? Penrose couldn't reach the ball in question anyway, plus I didn't notice any Dublin defenders stopping because they heard the mythical whistle. Yes, I was at the game, premium Hogan stand.

RonnieDrew (Dublin) - Posts: 10 - 03/08/2010 09:05:14    733645

Not doubting you Dell I just couldn't hear it.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 03/08/2010 09:55:34    733673

RonnieDrew, whistles were only blown when a Tyrone man came near or on the ball, the whistle wasnt blown when Dublin were in posession, I am not passing judgement as it doesnt particularly affect me but I can only imagine it is very disheartening for a player to hear a whistle and presume it is the referee and it actually coming from the crowd. and in reply to someone saying Penrose was not on the ball, to me it looked like he was.

Beautiful.Meath (Meath) - Posts: 537 - 03/08/2010 10:08:41    733683

Sounds like a trashy chick novel doesn't it....

"Whistles on the Hill" a tale of love and betrayal...

In all good book stores.



But I have to agree… the only reason why the Dubs won was down to this whistle, getting a lucky break for the goal, and Tyrone kicking terrible wides

It's time to put this victory into perspective…. we had a good rub of the green,

Cork will be good enough on the day, and all the luck in the world may not be enough to keep us within 3 points of Cork…

A team that so far this year has beaten Dublin in two games by a combined score of nearly 30 points!!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 03/08/2010 10:31:26    733709

I was in the Lower Hogan at the Hill end and the whistle could be heard very clearly. It was blown every time Tyrone attacked during the first half.

Of course it would not be heard on the hill with the level of noise there already but would certainly have been very audible to players on the pitch if people in the stands could hear it clearly.

As regards the whistle being the same for both teams I dont agree.
Who benefitted from disruptions to play when Tyrone were in possession and on the attack?

Having said that it wasn't the whistler who was the cause of 17 Tyrone wides.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 03/08/2010 10:41:33    733716

The first point here to note is that nobody is accusing anyone of cheating. The first person to use the word cheat on this forum was b mullins a dub. Now I can go on about Charlie Redmond and the 95 final for as long as you want, but that would get us nowhere. The all-ireland series is over for Tyrone for this year and it is because we didn't take the scoring opportunities that presented themselves during this game. When people pay good money however to go to a game they should not be sitting saying to the person next to them " Did the ref blow the whistle there... what was that free for?" when in fact the ref had not blown his whistle at all and play continued. When the whistle was blown by the phantom whistler I was actually automatically thinking it was a free. For me that was the most disappointing thing about the whole issue. Never mind who was doing the whistling ...no-one tried to prevent this from happening. The officials at the game and the match stewards should have removed this person or their whistle. I recall this happening in a World Cup game in USA 94 where the referee stopped the game and waited until the whistle was removed from an assailant, in fact I think it was his own fans that took it from him. No sour grapes. Good luck to the Dubs. The whistle will not be an issue any more because the dubs will be out in their usual masses and the Hill will be drowning out this person. Good Luck to all 4 semi-finalists!!

rattletheonion (Tyrone) - Posts: 50 - 03/08/2010 10:49:57    733727

Rattletheonion

Thats what I meant to say....

How come the referee took no action?
In some cases the whistler actually seemed to be almost in sync with the referee.
Surely it was up to the referee to deal with it !!

Is there a rule?
Is there a precedent in GAA?

I do remember reading about it happening somewhere before but not sure of which sport.
In that case the referee stopped play until it was sorted out.

I think I remember it happening at a GAA match previously but cant remember how it was dealt with.

I

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 03/08/2010 11:00:02    733740

This thread is definitely up there for funniest post of the year.
Sorry Loyal but I think jimin10 has stolen your spot

NavyNBlue (Dublin) - Posts: 1357 - 03/08/2010 11:01:18    733741

Its part of our new win at all cost strategy....we have adapted many of the Tyrone traits and improvised with a few new ones of our own! Dublin players have had whistling devices surgically implanted in their throats in an attempt to distract the opposition!

Surely Mickey Harte would compliment us for this master stroke???

pigonastick (Dublin) - Posts: 487 - 03/08/2010 11:11:22    733759

We had a lad who started blowing a whistle during matches years ago but one of the lads had a word with him. I think after that the whistle only sounded after he had eaten beans on toast or onion baghies !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 03/08/2010 11:11:22    733760

Cavan_Slasher
County: Cavan
Posts: 5354

733760 We had a lad who started blowing a whistle during matches years ago but one of the lads had a word with him. I think after that the whistle only sounded after he had eaten beans on toast or onion baghies !!

Haha... Good stuff!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 03/08/2010 11:52:35    733831

Jim your sarcasim is gas !!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 03/08/2010 12:11:32    733875

in fairness the whisles were a disgrace

Ros2013 (Roscommon) - Posts: 529 - 03/08/2010 12:32:05    733929

The Hill16 whistler was also at work during the qualifier clash with Louth.
I presume he didn't go to the games with Tipperary or Armagh as the weather looked damp.

Where is the moral police on the hill? surely if the Dublin supporters had any dignity about them someone would have challanged this clown.

Yours In Sport,
Joseff

joseff (Louth) - Posts: 964 - 03/08/2010 13:07:55    734014

finglas full ba
County: All
Posts: 514

733570 omaghredhand.cop on will you.we beat yiz fair and square for the second time this year ,bullied yiz off the ball and tackled yiz like dogs,that might have something to do with some of the wides.yes some of them were bad wides but if you cant handle the heat ...... have to say the tyrone fans and thier little band of culchie supporters are making a show of themselfs on the hoganstand since saturday.up the dubs.

I think the old saying of saying nothing and let people think your stupid as opposed to proving them right applies here. I never said in any forum at any time that Dublin did not deserve to win. The reason that they DID deserve to win is because they took their chances. Tyrone created more scoring opportunities than Dublin and missed them. I agree that some where missed whilst under intense pressure, others were missed when there wasn't a sinner within 10 yards of them. This is why 17/18 wides have an impact on the result. Now, if you cannot understand that then I would suggest that you take a vow of silence on subjects on which you no nothing about. As regards bullying Tyrone, hilarious. Tyrone turned Dublin over as many times as they turned us over and both teams tackled hard. That's why it was such an enjoyable game. By the 60th minute, the teams were level, Tyrone were on top at this point and missed 4 very scoreable chances when they were NOT under pressure. Dublin went up the field and scored what I think we all agree was quite a fortuitous goal. This gave them an immense lift and the fact that they scored a quick point following a misplaced pass straight after this, the game was virtually won. Do not try and suggest that this was an easy victory for the Dubs. In fact with 10 minutes to go, a couple of Dubs(gentlemen) around me thought there was only going to be one winner as did I, and it was not the boys in blue. However, on such little margins, games change and fair play to Dublin, but please do not make the mistake of suggesting that your victory was something it wasn't. It was hard hard earned and like all games a little bit of luck played its part. Have a wee bit more respect for both sets of players

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 03/08/2010 13:10:08    734016

Re whistler....

No one seems to know what the procedure is when this happens.

Is there any guidance for referees?
Could the referee have stopped the game until it had been sorted?
How would the whistler be identified?
Are there not plain clothes gardai on the hill?

Its easy to say that the people around him should do something but posters who were on the Hill never even heard the whistle and that is because of the general noise and mayhem in there.
However, there must be people who know who is at it.

If a plan isnt put in place it could happen again with more serious consequences !!!!!

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 03/08/2010 13:37:03    734075