What do people reckon with this one?
Can Kildare bounce back after a desperate performance against Louth.
I still think we have good players like Earley, Flaherty, Doyle and Smith but our full back line got cleaned out and I expect big changes there on Saturday.
Antrim are a good team and will come down to Newbridge confident of beating us.
I am hoping home advantage might shade it for Kildare

Willie Nelson (None) - Posts: 972 - 22/06/2010 15:19:19    684005

I fancied kildare at the start of the year to do big things, but any team that gets beaten well by louth cant be up to much.

millhouse (Meath) - Posts: 892 - 22/06/2010 15:50:49    684055

Kildare were beaten fair and square by a Louth team who came into the game well prepared both physically and mentally.

I don't accept for one minute that Kildare were 'desperate' as described by you. I believe Kildare performed as well as they were let perform, they scored 1-16 remember but were out scored on the day by a Louth team who played the type of football we all knew they could play but have had to wait some time to actually see it..

As for the game with Antrim I think Kildare will win it if they can score 1-16 against a team who promised so much during the early part of the year but just haven't really delivered the goods on the really big days.

Kildare to be in the draw for the second round of the qualifiers.

BallsMcQ (USA) - Posts: 941 - 22/06/2010 16:00:51    684074

Ye I think Kildare will shade it , by the odd score. If they lose ,then McGeeney's gone , simple as that. Its a no win for Kildare who would be expected to beat Antrim on their home patch. Sure were'nt posters talkin up Kildare as AI outsiders at the beginning of the year!

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 22/06/2010 17:26:40    684193

Don't think Antrim have enough to challenge Kildare, think the Lillywhites will win by 3 points at least.

Tongo (UK) - Posts: 1795 - 22/06/2010 21:08:10    684376

I could be convinced either way. Teams who played Div III last year haven't fared too badly elsewhere, Sligo being an obvious example. Louth did beat Kildare, too. Hard to tell how we are going to play - are the St Galls lads too jaded after a long season? Will Baker get the mix right this weekend (i.e. closer to the team that finished against Tyrone than the one that started)? I think sides tend to need a glamour tie to pick themselves up after a morale damaging defeat - Kildare won't see Antrim as a glamour tie, so we might be more up for it than they are.

pearsesabu (Antrim) - Posts: 663 - 23/06/2010 09:41:36    684492

The Kildare Nationalist has written a very good article this week calling this match the most important for McGeeney in his three years in charge arguing that if they lose this then everything they've done in the last few years will have been for nothing. Johnny Doyle has also given an interview highlighting the comparisons between this year and 2008 when we lost to Wicklow. He has correctly pointed out that while we did make it to an AI Quarter final that year this was only because on our first match back after the Wicklow defeat we snuck past Cavan with a very late goal in Newbridge.

Maybe we might lose, there'll be a lot of changes in the Kildare team. Certainly Antrim are an attractive price at 15/8 but if we do lose it will certainly not be because the team weren't up for it or because we underestimated Antrim.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 23/06/2010 10:34:05    684540

i thought the last game was more or less the end of mcgeeney...obviously he was goin to stay for qualifiers however far kildare get but in my opinion he was found out big time against louth..his decisions on the line were strange to say the least...taking off the guy who scored 1-1 with less than half an hour gone and taking off callaghan and putting him back on again.its obvious grimley was the main man just as i'd say he is up in monaghan at the minute...mcgeeney was only a face in the bigger picture.as for beating antrim,home advantage is a big plus but they'll still need a lot of improving from the last day. Before the year i would have rated antrim higher than louth and thats going on last years championship displays...it should be a tight one...extra time could be a possibility here.

depointswilcome (Westmeath) - Posts: 125 - 23/06/2010 13:46:18    684881

I fancy the Saffrons in this one but only by a point ot two. I seen an earlier poster saying that this Antrim team promised so much after the league - They may of promised much but then again they were playing Tyrone who are arguably one of the top 3 sides in the country. They played some good stuff against them too. CJ Mc Gourty is key if Antrim are to prevail.

ballybaybadboy (Monaghan) - Posts: 89 - 23/06/2010 15:56:22    685098

I fancy Antrim to progress.

For all the talk about Kildare last year, who did they actually beat?

Their best performance was in defeat to Tyrone and I think if they were as good as they were being made out to be then they would have beaten a poor 14 man Dublin in the Leinster Final.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13795 - 23/06/2010 17:34:05    685192

ballybaybadboy
County: Monaghan

I seen an earlier poster saying that this Antrim team promised so much after the league - They may of promised much but then again they were playing Tyrone who are arguably one of the top 3 sides in the country.

What I actually said was they (Antrim)promised so much during the early part of the year. You must also remember that they have lost three important games on the bounce now, Tyrone was one with Wexford and Sligo being the other two.

MesAmis
County: Dublin

Their best performance was in defeat to Tyrone and I think if they were as good as they were being made out to be then they would have beaten a poor 14 man Dublin in the Leinster Final.

Possibly MesAmis but you have to remember that game against Dublin was still in the melting pot when Dublin were awarded what could only be described as a very soft and dubious free kick with not long left on the clock, an incident I believe actually turned the game in Dublin's favour.

BallsMcQ (USA) - Posts: 941 - 23/06/2010 19:39:32    685328

I feel they will bounce back and beat antrim but it will be no easy task .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/06/2010 20:29:17    685368

If the team defends like they did the last day we have no hope but I am confident that things have been sorted out since the louth game and we will win by 5 or 6 points.

bryanadams (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 23/06/2010 20:49:42    685389

It will be a tight enough game, I wouldnt expect either team to dominate, Doyle will be the main man for Kildare, Cunningham will cause problems for them though. Still, Kildare by two or three.

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 23/06/2010 21:18:53    685426

bryanadams
County: Kildare

If the team defends like they did the last day we have no hope but I am confident that things have been sorted out since the louth game and we will win by 5 or 6 points.


Louth remember conceeded 1-16 to Kildare on the day so neither defence was particulary water tight Bryan. Kildare in the main are depending on Johnny Doyle for scores so if Antrim can curtail Johnny's scoring well then they're in with a shout. However as I've said previously if Kildare can score 1-16 I believe that will be good enough to see them by against Antrim.

BallsMcQ (USA) - Posts: 941 - 23/06/2010 21:21:03    685428

I think the result here is irrevelant. A lot of comparisons are being made to 2008 which is a bad thing. It shows we are back to square 1, infact a little worse. In 2008 we ran through a bunch of beaten horses, almost getting to the last 8 on default. Last year we played great football, but failed to beat a big team. And this year has been a shambles. The chances are Antrim might flop or we scab a victory but if Antrim turn up they will beat us by 4 or 5 points. Either way it doesn't matter as Kildare are going nowhere and would nearly be as well out of the championship.

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1172 - 23/06/2010 21:36:26    685456

Paidraig Ashe (chairman of Kildare county board) has just been on KFM to say that the match will now be going ahead on Saturday as per the wishes expressed to them by the Earley family.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 24/06/2010 12:10:11    685791

antrim will beat kildare, why because kildare are useless. Last year kildare
came to navan needing to beat meath to be in the mix for promotion they
failed against a meath team that only had pride to play, they then went on
to be beaten by 14 man dublin thanks to some terrible defending for two goals,
then they took on tyrone and put it up to them and wilted like hay in july when
tyrone turned the screw. Then they came to navan in the last round of the league
this year and lost to meath and finally they lay down against louth (hardly a gaa
super power). Stop fooling yourselves kildare bad forwards still relying on doyle
and a defense that is worse than meaths your going nowhere

atta (Meath) - Posts: 705 - 24/06/2010 15:21:15    686117

BallsMcQ:

Maybe you're right. The way I view it is that Kildare had the numerical advantage for about 2/3 of the game and only had to mark one Dublin forward but still couldn't win. Dublin did get some dubious frees at the end but if you look at the game as a whole I'm sure you'll find that Kildare were awarded some scorbale frees that could of been argued against.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13795 - 24/06/2010 18:02:15    686340

Mes Amis kildare scored all their points from play that day

sam93 (Derry) - Posts: 4 - 24/06/2010 18:20:30    686367