Sorry Liam!
Was in McGraths before the match but walked past the 'Findlater' before the match and wondered weather you were inside!
Did you see the 'Beam me Up' cherrypicker ontside cleaning the windows?
Gotta stop talkin about it and just meet some time!!

Was in Jurys after the game wif the rest of the Lucan Sarsfields club!
That place does be full of us!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 01/07/2008 16:35:02    41160

Good man Snuf, i'm an avid fan of the old history myself so enjoy any stories you can put up. If I can think of any particularly interesting ones myself I will add.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 01/07/2008 18:03:55    41235

Before the Eye and Ear hospital was built it was a site for sore eyes.

Rgds etc.

RAM85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 978 - 01/07/2008 22:08:48    41306

Did you know that 'Bull Island' was only formed naturally after the 'Bull Wall' was built.
Dublin port was one of the most dangerous ports for approaching ships in the world until the twin piers and the wall were built. The disturbance to the currents caused a deposit of silt north of the wall and hence the formation of Bull Island.
Furthermore, there are five dwellings on the island and these people are Dublins only 'Islanders'!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 15/07/2008 16:27:54    48909

ahhh bull Island! Only down the road from Kilbarrack where I grew up. Remember hearing that when we were kids bout the formation of the Island. And for a bonus point , the man behind it all was a certain Captain Bligh of mutiny on the bounty fame!! Many a Dubliner was conceived on his Island

dubupnorth (Dublin) - Posts: 1897 - 15/07/2008 16:36:24    48919

Ahh, well done dubupnorth, add the half-pence to the pence!...G'lad!
Thats the style!

Regards,

Snufalufagus.....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 16/07/2008 13:55:46    49581

Just a quick one without going into too much detail. Very brief.

The day Collins was shot at Bael na Blath (mouth of flowers) the convoy had passed from Bandon early in the day and because of the make-up of the convoy the local volunteer who seen it reckoned it was probably somebody important so he reported it and a coloum of about 30 men were rallied to set up an ambush for the return journey.
They blocked the road and placed a mine.
Anyway, time dragged on and the column gave up reckoning that the convoy had gone a different way so the main party dispersed to the pub back the road to talk about the state of mayo football.
A small party of 4 or 5 were left to dismantle the barricade and it was then that the convoy arrived. The ambushers were totally taken by surprise and fled the scene not wanting to engage a superior force.
Dalton had given the Command to 'drive like hell' but being C in C Collins said "we'll fight them".
Now, Collins was engaging two rebels always keeping the armoured car between him and the two lads but manouvered to get a better angle on them and broke cover. A fleeing rebel siezed the opportunity and shot him in the head.
The rebel did not know who he had shot remember....just somebody!
The Big Fella was down and gone forever.
Anyway, there is alot more to it but too much for this post.


Does anybody know the name of the lad behind the trigger?.....I do, and I'll take it to me grave!

Regards,

Snufalufagus.....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 16/07/2008 14:25:28    49628

Snuf,

excuse my ignorance please;

If dublin is taken from the Irish 'Dubh Linn' meaning black pool, then where does "atha cliath" come from

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 16/07/2008 14:49:54    49658

snuf//. cancel the grave bit. who was it?

acrossthewater (None) - Posts: 110 - 16/07/2008 15:01:27    49678

Derry_ledd.
No problem.....glad to be of assistance with any question I can answer.

Dubh Linn is the Viking name for Dublin meaning black pool which was a pool/lake on the poddle river which is now the gardens of Dublin Castle.

Ath Cliath means 'hurdle ford'! Hurdle being a barrier of some sort...in this case the liffey, and a ford being a type of makeshift causeway that was built to cross it around where Collins Barracks is today where the river ran shallow and narrow.
This was the original Gaelic settlement in Dublin!
So Baile Ath Cliath translates into 'The town of the Hurdle Ford'!!

On that note: The original Gaelic name for the Liffey was: 'An Ruirthech' which means 'The strong one'!

So C'mon ye boys in Blue.......'The Hurdle Ford Men'!!

Regards,

Snufalufagus......Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 16/07/2008 15:14:19    49691

With such accurate shooting I'd hazard a guess that his surname wasn't Mortimor. ;~p

Wests_Awake (Galway) - Posts: 877 - 16/07/2008 15:15:14    49694

Who shot Michael Collins?
Jonathon Rhys Meyers wasn't it?

Shinners (Longford) - Posts: 496 - 16/07/2008 15:15:34    49695

That's maybe why he had the plane trouble....flashbacks like in Nam.

northpole (Derry) - Posts: 739 - 16/07/2008 16:39:02    49796

Snuf, I read a great book once called "The day Michael Collins was shot" ... they hinted at the name of the person "most likely" to have shot Collins and covered all of the potential trigger - pullers. Twas a great read about what I think was one of the worst things to have happened in Ireland in the last century.

Did you know that because Michael Collins and Arthur Griffith were such close friends and allies, especially after the "Treaty" negotiations, that they named the two adjacent avenues in the North side of the city, i.e. Griffith Avenue and Collins' Avenue after them at the same time so that they would "always lie side by side" ... a nice touch, they were both dead within about 1 month of each other.

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 16/07/2008 16:56:37    49818

Thanks Beacaire Gorm. Ididnt know that. Keep em commin!

By the way being a bee keeper as you are, I have some info you might like to hear.
In Babylon 4000 or so years ago tradition was that the brides father for a whole month after the wedding would supply his son in law with all the mead he could drink. As you know mead is a honey beer and because their calender back then was lunar based and all that, the period was called the honey month and hence today is known as the 'honeymoon'!
Dunno if you knew that or no, but there you go anyway! One for yer bee-keepin buddies!

Regards,

Snufalufagus......Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 16/07/2008 17:15:26    49839

A fair exchange. I didn't know that one either ... I did know that bee-keeping has been going on for thousands of years and that they used to have mud and straw hives that were "disposable". No way of separating the honey store from the brood nest so you got a mixture of honey, wax and ... er ... protein (yech!)

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 16/07/2008 17:23:26    49849

A far out relation of Michael Collins used to sleep rough in a massive crane tyre on Dublin Docks but some gou stuck a knife in the tyre.... now hes in a flat.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 16/07/2008 21:08:41    49955

Cork - The rebel County....pity they shot the best rebel of them all.

Snuff - Re: Dublin's only islanders, isn't Lambay Island part of Dublin? if so there are several more people (10 I think) who can also claim to be Dublin's only islanders.
Love the thread btw.

RUBADUB (Dublin) - Posts: 477 - 17/07/2008 11:56:25    50259

think your correct there RUBADUB. An uncle of mine used to be in the Aer Corps and I remember him telling me once about doing a medical emergency lift off Lambay for one of the residents. That's not that long ago either. Maybe ten years ago so there's a fair chance some people still live there.

dubupnorth (Dublin) - Posts: 1897 - 17/07/2008 12:39:06    50318

RUBADUB.
Thanks, forgot about Lambay. It is privately owned but didnt know families lived on it!

Regarding the Rebel County.
Contrary to popular belief the rebel county got its name from the exact opposite to the reason that is spun today.
It was in 1491 during the English War of the Roses that the people of Cork came out in support of a lad called Perkin Warbeck who was a pretender to the Throne of England. It was because of their support for this royalist that they got the title of 'rebels'.

Regards,

Snufalufagus.....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 17/07/2008 12:45:14    50331