First of all, well done to St Colmans, the better better team on the day but also well done to a kerry team in getting to a 4th Hogan cup final in a row (with three different kerry teams). St Colmans were always in command though-some good future senior footballers there.

As for the comments fo John Boss
"There I am sure were some elements within the Down support which were over aggressive as would any team with Paul Galvin at the helm have on the opposing side as well.".......

Where do you get off on justifying any type of ill behaviour because the opposition has Paul Galvin as a selector, what type of twistedness is that in sport. Imagine if people said the same thing if Ricey was a selector on a young teenager team and the opposition supporters caused disruption to the game because of it....would that be right, of course not, its a form of bulllying and it sickens me to read such prejudice in sport.

kerrykerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1779 - 10/04/2010 19:41:08    613672

JohnBoss, there is no jealousy or anything on my part. I was in Croke Park today but all I can take away from it is the vileness of the St. Colman's support. The majority of fans were not grannies etc... they were current and past pupils and they brought absolute disgrace to their school. Their own teachers said to me that they were embarressed for the school because of the behaviour of their supporters.

Bringing flairs into Croke Park is bad enough but then setting them off and throwing them at stewards and gardai is absolutly disgusting. My only hope is that some of these supporters are banned from attending GAA events for a time.

ANd in regards to your comment about any team with galving as a selector is due some abuse, how do you make that one out? What has Galvin done to St.Colman's to deserve such abuse? Sure he might be a short tempered player who plays with his heart on his sleeve. what if Ryan McMenamin was involved in a schools team? by your justification that team is open to abuse and he is open to having every aspect of his on-field and off-field activities used as a venomous weapon against him.

swinford2008 (Mayo) - Posts: 163 - 10/04/2010 19:53:29    613677

Well done to Violet Hill, a good result for Armagh football, and those from Down as well. I remember an Antrim man, Hamill, captaining one of their Hogan wins.

That makes 8 now, a serious nursery, even with the boarding gone.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 10/04/2010 20:02:32    613684

Kerry
I am sure soccer will get blamed for it.

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 10/04/2010 21:23:30    613737

Patrique....just to have you know as an ex pat of Violet hill it is seen mainly as a Down school and not an Armagh school. Although part of newry falls within the two counties it is addressed as Co.Down and the Hogan team and most teams within the school consist of Down players with a few armagh and antrim and one monaghon when I was there.

Doesnt make a difference though....great display, should have hammered them by more but who can argue, they're all ireland champs!

Well donr lads!

TheKingdomgael (Down) - Posts: 167 - 11/04/2010 12:10:58    613837

Sounds like the usual anti-Ulster moaners at their work, they can't take ANY Ulster team beating them AND for a MAYO person to complain about other fans is a laugh. Mayo fans have a reputation, especially in their province, of being loutish and annoying. Get over it.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 11/04/2010 12:52:17    613853

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10745

611852 Upper tiers closed and hill closed but all lower tiers open .


Oh that makes a change, Dell is wrong with his usual poetic response.

Yours in Sport,
Joseff

joseff (Louth) - Posts: 964 - 11/04/2010 13:01:07    613862

TheKingdomgael
County: Down
Posts: 7

613837
Patrique....just to have you know as an ex pat of Violet hill it is seen mainly as a Down school and not an Armagh school. Although part of newry falls within the two counties it is addressed as Co.Down and the Hogan team and most teams within the school consist of Down players with a few armagh and antrim and one monaghon when I was there.


I know.

As usual my response was tongue in cheek as a few posts had only mentioned Down.

Some of the best players I remember from Violet Hill were Frank Toman who won a Hogan in 1967, and 4 years later with us (St Mary's Belfast) so he was about 14 when he played for Colman's and he was Armagh, as was the great Marsden, was he Colman's as well?

Benny Tiernay, Ciaran Lewis, and many, many others.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/04/2010 13:31:09    613878

Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 1802

613853
Sounds like the usual anti-Ulster moaners at their work, they can't take ANY Ulster team beating them AND for a MAYO person to complain about other fans is a laugh. Mayo fans have a reputation, especially in their province, of being loutish and annoying.



MAYO??????????? LOUTISH??????????????


NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Mayo's biggest problem over the years is that they are the nicest people in Ireland, not for them systematic fouling and diving., but rather they see football as an aesthetic ideal, with the finer arts to be embraced.

So you can call them all sorts of things but loutish.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/04/2010 13:33:57    613880

Sounds like the usual anti-Ulster moaners at their work, they can't take ANY Ulster team beating them AND for a MAYO person to complain about other fans is a laugh. Mayo fans have a reputation, especially in their province, of being loutish and annoying. Get over it.


Ha, never gets old!

No rant about the 'right wing anti-union , unioinist southern' media today then?

Fortunately the BBC briefly deal with the incidents http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8613280.stm

JuanVeron (Westmeath) - Posts: 1866 - 11/04/2010 13:38:22    613885

JuanVeron
County: Westmeath
Posts: 1530


Fortunately the BBC briefly deal with the incidents http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8613280.stm


As I keep saying, the BBC does great GAA coverage.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/04/2010 14:19:35    613914

Look St Colemans won, some people have been saying Colaiste Na Scelige were caught off guard in Milltown.
As for Galvin, its APPLAUD the man, he is giving ssomething back to the GAA,isnt that what its all about getting your best players to get involved to make them play Gaa. So get off the old Paul Galvin anti wagon, like James McCartan with Queens at the time Davy Fitz LIT giving something back.
Congrats Newry

castlemaine (Kerry) - Posts: 546 - 11/04/2010 21:33:30    614394

Couldnt agree more with all the posters about the behaviour of the St Colmans supporters on Saturday and must be condemned by all and sundry.
It was great to have the Hogan Cup Final in Croke Park but those louts spoiled what should have been a great day.
From the time they entered the Hogan Stand, and seemingly "under the influence" of something they embarked on a tirade of abuse at Paul Galvin, the St Brendans supporters, the Abbey School in Newry,the Stewards and the Gardai.
In my opinion, about half a dozen louts were the cheerleaders, and had they been scooped earlier it would have calmed the situation, one in particular with a St Colmans Jersey with number 18 on it, he did get scooped after the game aalong with 2 of his friends who tried to get onto the pitch.
No excuse for the Blue Flares thrown at the Stewards and Gardai, or the amount of beer cans and bottles left behind in the Stand, must ask the question, how did they get the alchohol and flares into the Stadium.
Hope St Colmans take appropriate action against these people as there is no place for them in Croke Park or any other GAA ground.

sam02 (Tyrone) - Posts: 643 - 12/04/2010 11:06:39    614572

swinford2008 i think you are quite jealous since st colaman's beat st gerlads mayo in the semi!! And i was at that match and the final and i truely think the behaviour of the st geralds fans at that game was worse than the st comans fans in croke park. First of all they brought drink into the grounds, secondly they chanted much worse abuse than was heard in croke park, thirdly when any st colmans students walked past them they threw stuff at them and at the very end of the game having been well beaten they started to abuse the college fans and also smashed glass bottles in an attempt to scare them. Fair enough st colmans lads had flairs in croke park and two were arrested but you would think the stewarts would have let the lads on the pitch to celebrate with the team, as it was a massive achievment for the school and from what i seen thats all the two lads were trying to do who got arrested!

Mr_Right_09 (Down) - Posts: 6 - 13/04/2010 11:47:47    615860

Mr Right is right!there is nothing wrong with fans trying to enter the pitch to celebrate the victory,it is done every year in the all-ireland final. at casement the stewards actually opened the gate. at croke park a friend of mine was used as a sheild by one stewards,disgraceful!!!and it took them stewards 10 minutes to realise peope where getting crushed in a small section of a stand and that they had to open another section. no flares were aimed at stewards, as u can see in the video footage they wer threw onto the field over the stewards heads!as for the abuse at galvan...it was 2 chants towards the end of the game...the game was well over and the fans got bored!the lads showed passionate support for their team throughout the campaign....looks like when we conquered ireland people started complaining.BLUE ARMY!

insideman (Down) - Posts: 81 - 13/04/2010 12:59:32    615958

Insideman, I beg to differ, the abuse towards Paul Galvin was going on from before the match started, and those flares were directed at the Gardai and Stewards, luckily they went over their heads and onto the grass.
Those arrested didnt even know they were in Croke Park, didnt watch 2 minutes of the match, and were only interested in a confrontation, can only but imagine these are the next lot to descend upon the HOLYLANDs in Belfast.... god help us all.

sam02 (Tyrone) - Posts: 643 - 13/04/2010 21:12:51    616610

There wasnt any abuse to galvan before the match and i think if the flares were aimed at the gardai they would of hit them....who would miss from 20 yards?they were threw onto the field by a couple of over enthuastic fans. and im sure those arrested knew where they were, they were there supporting the school that they had attended for 7 years and all they wanted to do was celebrate with the team on the field.everybody wanted to go onto the field and i think that it is more of a health and safety risk by not letting people.if your county or local club had just won an all ireland everybody would have made there way onto the field and no arrests would be made.....there is only criticism because there was only hundreds of fans and not thousands.

insideman (Down) - Posts: 81 - 14/04/2010 09:44:58    616736

Insideman only wants to hear and see what is convenient for his eyes and ears, I beg to differ, re Paul Galvin, they were chanting abuse long before the ball was thrown in, and did you see the flare in Sect 332 before the game started, it too was thrown at a Gardai. Did you hear them chanting about Courtney Hill, ( Abbey not there any more), did you hear them chanting at the St Brendans supporters, and when the Presentation was taking place, what were those thugs doing, throwing flares at the Gardai and Stewards, and taunting and goading them.
The reason they didnt make contact with anyone was fortunately the intended receipents were able to avoid them, a sad day for St Colmans amid all the excitement.

sam02 (Tyrone) - Posts: 643 - 14/04/2010 21:42:56    617837

It is a bit sad that st colmans dont have their own songs about their school, it seems that a pro-College chant is essentially an anti-Abbey chant. They should get real

spiderpig123 (Down) - Posts: 175 - 15/04/2010 12:11:33    618110

we have plenty of songs about are own school.sam02 if u go to the bbc website u can clearly see a flare being thrown onto the field and not at the gardai....get ur facts rights!!off course we are going to slag are closest rivals,isnt that the point of rivarly....we had just won the hogan and we were letting the abbey know about it!!

we are passionate fans and supporting your team is vital if you want them to succeed!!
BLUE ARMY FOR LIFE

insideman (Down) - Posts: 81 - 15/04/2010 18:01:55    618673