Yes he should go, and he has some neck on him if he stays.
The Catholic church is damaged enough as it is.

rossielassie (Roscommon) - Posts: 672 - 16/03/2010 20:17:39    590103

I find it very hard to understand that the People i have looked to all my life for moral guidance now can not see the moral issues and insist on hiding behind some obscure legal guidlines. How the hell can these representatives of the Church of Christ ask little Children to hide theiir abuse. A different idea of "suffer the little children"

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 16/03/2010 20:37:50    590123

sam57
County: Louth
Posts: 424

589928 I have to say I'm getting completely disillusioned with the church.
GETTING? Where have you been up to now?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 16/03/2010 20:39:34    590125

Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 1709

589957 I listened to Monsignor Corry on Radio Ulsters's Talkback programme today defending Cardinal Brady..........and got angrier and angrier at him. He said that the Church had NO moral obligation to report abusers to the police......

They had another egg head on RTE radio yesterday, with exactly the same speel. Heard a female version of the same thing on radio today, its obviously all coming from the same source,, Of course the script says these people are all expressing their own opinions, in the hope that if you say it often and loud enogh someone will believe it.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 16/03/2010 20:47:09    590132

Seen some of this press conference on Vincent Brown the other night. What planet is he living on?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0311/breaking18.html

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 16/03/2010 21:01:22    590149

So let them be, who have had sex with children!
And turn Your rage on those who turned their eyes,
Intending to defend Your church with lies!
Nor were they ever fit for Your dominion!
These hypocrites are far worse than the poor
Polluted souls they moved from place to place,
Avid to avoid undue disgrace,
Trafficking in silence to be sure.
Remember them when You return! For they,
Instead of proper penance, yet remain
Cardinals, bishops, princes in Your name,
Knowing well what price they ought to pay!

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 16/03/2010 21:08:06    590157

He ruled by fear Patrique and I couldn't stand the man. A bully and a snob.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9840 - 16/03/2010 21:59:22    590219

Is the man above not ultimately responsible or Mary the mother of God for that matter for failing to protect the innocent and vulnerable children.

squidword (Louth) - Posts: 2897 - 17/03/2010 14:32:23    590513

squidword
County: Louth
Posts: 1797




There is no such thing as the man above. If there was he would not have allowed these sick acts would have been carried out by members of a reigous institution.
To be honest I believe that the revelations of child sex abuse at the hands of the catholic church is proof that God does not exist.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 17/03/2010 15:18:37    590538

Dr.Shephard
County: Leitrim
Posts: 1306

590538 squidword
County: Louth
Posts: 1797




There is no such thing as the man above. If there was he would not have allowed these sick acts would have been carried out by members of a reigous institution.
To be honest I believe that the revelations of child sex abuse at the hands of the catholic church is proof that God does not exist.

Silly comment. For a start you don't know if there is a God or not, no one does. If God does exist He probably doesn't have the power to influence the actions of humans, it is called free will.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 17/03/2010 17:50:13    590616

squidword
County: Louth
Posts: 1797

590513 Is the man above not ultimately responsible or Mary the mother of God for that matter for failing to protect the innocent and vulnerable children.

Its all down to transubstantiation, if thats not working everything goes down the swanny

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/03/2010 17:57:03    590626

Is the power to do things we humans possess not giving to us by God ?.

squidword (Louth) - Posts: 2897 - 17/03/2010 18:09:13    590633

He should Go! and Go Now!, he made a grovelling apology today at Mass 35years to late.

DynamoDooher (Tyrone) - Posts: 423 - 17/03/2010 18:43:58    590652

Even the Deputy first minister agrees that he should resign because of choices he made in the 1970's

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 17/03/2010 19:34:04    590702

ruanua
County: Donegal
Posts: 3134

590702 Even the Deputy first minister agrees that he should resign because of choices he made in the 1970's

That was a strange one ok, was there a coded message for Gerard?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/03/2010 20:31:54    590763

Even though I think Cardinal Brady has lost moral authority and should step down Martin McGuinness has a bit of a cheek. Did he ask Gerry Adams to step aside while his brother is being investigated? Bit of a brass neck there Martin.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9840 - 17/03/2010 21:48:34    590891

17/03/2010 21:48:34
Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 1726

590891 Even though I think Cardinal Brady has lost moral authority and should step down Martin McGuinness has a bit of a cheek. Did he ask Gerry Adams to step aside while his brother is being investigated? Bit of a brass neck there Martin.

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True - Although not comparable it is also Ironic that he is critical of choices made in the 1970's

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 18/03/2010 09:28:42    590942

The difference with Gerry Adams is that the abuse had finished by the time he found out. In Cardinal Brady's case, by doing nothing he allowed the abuse to continue for another 18 years

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 18/03/2010 11:22:24    591056

Dr.Shephard
County: Leitrim
Posts: 1333

591056 The difference with Gerry Adams is that the abuse had finished by the time he found out. In Cardinal Brady's case, by doing nothing he allowed the abuse to continue for another 18 years .

That sounds like one straight from the catholic churche's Excuses manual

How did he know that he was not abusing someone else??

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 18/03/2010 16:26:50    591631

In fairness dhorse I'm sure he asked the brother was he still at it when they were campaigning together in Louth. Obviously the answer was "no", so that's alright then.

Although if Gerry himself is to be believed they weren't in contact at all during that time...

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 18/03/2010 16:55:20    591681