I thought if you get suspended you are not allowed to train with the team and not allowed inside a pitch area during suspensions . Now there are excuse coming from the Mayo camp that their banned player did not know about his hearing? Apparently he got no notice and the statement said he was training with the team last Tuesday night. And Galvin was not allowed to train with Kerry when he got his ban as it is in the rules , so should this player get a extra ban or are their county board to blame?.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 02/03/2010 21:03:54    577550

To be fair to Mayo Dell its not often one of their players get suspended, an honest mistake if it has happened. Maybe you Tyrone boyo's can fill us on on what the procedure is when you get a player banned? yous have plenty of experience an opportunity to make some money in these hard times as free lance suspensions consultants.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 02/03/2010 21:15:55    577572

Rule 149 (c) of the GAA official guide, "The Effect of a Suspension," states that Galvin cannot feature "in games (including tournaments and challenge games) as specified, and from acting as a referee, umpire, linesman or sideline official".

Part (d) adds that suspended players cannot attend "functions, privileges and competitions under the associations control"


Just found the rule here on it so it is true so this player should not been allowed to train . But the quiestion his now who is to blame the mayo county board or player or both.?

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 02/03/2010 21:18:30    577581

I think its the rule thats stupid here tho dell.
I know what it currently states dell, not arguing that with you, but I think its ridiculous not to allow players to train! Its not like they are returning to a crime scene or tampering with evidence, its just training. As long as he's not part of a match day set up it should be enough!
To many silly niggly rules like this.
Although I dont believe any county board or indeed intercounty player wouldnt know what the rule on this is, as it hand made big news at the time of Galvins suspension!

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 02/03/2010 21:19:12    577582

Can anyone fill me in on what problrm the Mayo posters have with Ulster posters and Tyrone ones especially! thanks.

laflour (Cavan) - Posts: 528 - 02/03/2010 21:48:48    577621

Have to agree with Dell, he should get longer

dammon (Meath) - Posts: 1291 - 02/03/2010 21:52:50    577629

Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 2018

I agree with you on the rule thing no doubt silly rule just wondering what happens of it is broken ?

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 02/03/2010 21:53:26    577630

Looking at Rule 149 as you have quoted it does not seem to imply that the suspended player can't take part in training. Training is not a function, privelage or competition under the associations control as stated. People can say that training is held on GAA pitches but these pitches are only vested in the GAA and the GAA authorities don't have any hand act or part in governing, running or maintaining such facilities. Once again a rule of the GAA with a loophole.
Whats the suituation with insurance if a player got injured during training while suspended? Can one presume that if you're a juvenile coach a suspension would stop you from coaching? What a unfair suituation to the kids if you couldn't coach them

Diego (Meath) - Posts: 1205 - 03/03/2010 13:17:29    577900

laflour
County: Cavan
Posts: 111

577621 Can anyone fill me in on what problrm the Mayo posters have with Ulster posters and Tyrone ones especially! thanks.
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Its an inferiority complex laflour, they'll grow out of it eventually.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 03/03/2010 13:27:27    577917

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1578

577917 laflour
County: Cavan
Posts: 111

577621 Can anyone fill me in on what problrm the Mayo posters have with Ulster posters and Tyrone ones especially! thanks.
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Its an inferiority complex laflour, they'll grow out of it eventually

Strange we an inferiority complex against a side that we reguaraly beat and not against better sides like Kerry, Cork etc a strange one indeed.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 03/03/2010 13:46:44    577932

At least Mayo have moved on... it used to Be Meath and Cork were their bugbears

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 03/03/2010 14:12:03    577963

Interesting interpretation of the rule there Diego, perhaps someone should bring a challenge before the CCCC, CAC, DRA or whatever the correct acronym is.

The GAA rule book really needs to be torn up and re-written from scratch.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 03/03/2010 14:34:04    577996

Whether a player is banned from training with his team depends on the category of offence he is charged with. It is highly unlikely that a one month suspension would not be included in those offences which would see a player excluded from training. The same applies to bans at club level not interfering with participation with county or vice versa. A guy can serve a ban at club level and still be eligible to play at county level as per this story link.
Amazed Dell didn't know this!

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 480 - 03/03/2010 14:50:04    578015

Roger
County: Meath
Posts: 224

Am well aware of that rule in club level but am on about county level footballers are not allowed to train with county team while suspended on county level. However in club level if you get more than 3 months for abusing a ref etc or fall under a certain rule you can miss county games as well like mc carronn of tyrone last year.


Now back to the issue it is a rule that is there as proved in the galvin case now this player and county broke this rule and what is the punishment for it.?

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 03/03/2010 17:19:44    578218

another worthless thread

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 03/03/2010 17:47:38    578249

Portlaoise pair Brian McCormack and Michael Nolan are both currently serving 12-week suspensions after their club's All-Ireland club SFC semi-final defeat to Kilmurry-Ibrickane at the end of last month,


These pair cant play for loais rodger because of the severity of there bans.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 03/03/2010 19:04:59    578359

Dell,

How do you enforce the rule!

If a random player, from any county gets sent off at the weekend & suspended, how do you ensure that he doesnt train?
Its virtually impossible to enforce.
Its a really stupid rule & senseless. Being banned from matches is enough, to stop lads training aswell is a joke, these are amatuers & give a huge commitment to training throughuot the year & for some clown in a suit in Croke Park to say he aint allowed to train makes a pure joke of where the GAA's top brass are going!

As for the player you are referring to dell, let him off! You dont need to be out for blood looking to punish every incident or ban or increase a ban on players.
The player training does not hinder any other team his team plays against while he is suspended!

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 03/03/2010 19:55:57    578437

Dell its Mayo they can throw the dirt but cant take it. Remember if Kerry or Tyrone get into trouble oh throw trhe book if its Mayo oh we forgot.

milltownsupport (Kerry) - Posts: 85 - 03/03/2010 20:03:20    578458

inxie
County: Meath
Posts: 2024

578437
Dell,

How do you enforce the rule!


The rule is there and they have to have a punishment for it boss and just wondering what it was ? And like i said i do not agree with the rule and how you enforce it i do not know but at the end of the day that rule has beeh broken .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 03/03/2010 20:08:03    578472

milltownsupport
County: Kerry
Posts: 49

578458 Dell its Mayo they can throw the dirt but cant take it. Remember if Kerry or Tyrone get into trouble oh throw trhe book if its Mayo oh we forgot.

You guys still stopping locals from using the pitch and digging it up etc?

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 03/03/2010 20:08:41    578476