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Reading the paper today,caught my attention about Eoin Garvey and Liam Kenny wanting to transfer to Naomh Brid but they were both refused as Naomh Brid was outside 6km from the town.Was not aware there was a rule like this.I could be totally wrong but is is that if ou are transfering to a club from the town that you have to transfer within 6 km,unless you were changing address then there would be no problem.Was not aware of this rule before.

fergie (Carlow) - Posts: 1119 - 24/02/2010 17:51:21    572226

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You cannot transfer to any club that is more than 6km from your home address.There are exception if your nearest club is more than 6km from home example Kilbride footballers can hurl with naoimh eoin.

Blue & White (Carlow) - Posts: 136 - 25/02/2010 09:56:28    572667

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Fergie there is no such thing as 6 km in rule book re transfer requests it must be a Carlow bye law but it is contrary to Official Guide and should not stand up on appeal to Leinster Council in my opinion

pistelero (Wicklow) - Posts: 1719 - 25/02/2010 11:56:06    572770

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Pistelero

The rule book dosent count where you lot and transfers are concerned.

Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 532 - 25/02/2010 12:56:55    572842

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I think its an absolute disgrace to be honest,after all eoin garvey done for hurling in the county thats the way the county board treat him and looks like liam kenny will be lost to hurling as well,and they talk about promoting hurling in the county then,all lip service as usual.I dont understand where this 6k codswallop came out of,correct me if im wrong but didnt 2 players transfer from carlow town last year to erins own and there was no hassle about it. I hope naomh brid fight CB tooth and nail on this one.Ive never heard such a rubbish excuse that they gave,because the secretary of the clubs address was leighlinbridge that thats where the clubs headquaters is.

THE BOSS (Carlow) - Posts: 475 - 25/02/2010 13:33:25    572886

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In that case kildavin would surely be the kilbride players nearest club. It all seems very suspicous to me.
1 or 2 players would make N. Brid a good outfit and MLR etc. dont want that.
God help Milford, people living beside the pitch could be too far away from their secretary's house and stopped from playing.

safehands (Carlow) - Posts: 24 - 25/02/2010 13:41:36    572894

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Passerby we know the rules when it comes to transfers thats why they are always deemed in order we go by the rules of the Assocciation it seems you crowd dont which dosnt surprise me anyway going by what goes on in your County.

pistelero (Wicklow) - Posts: 1719 - 25/02/2010 16:09:57    573078

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The transfer rules were applied properly at the Co Board meeting. The 6 km rule is here a long time and it is a Carlow bye-law but all bye-laws have to be approved by Croke Park and this one was. In regard to Naomh Bríd, the club has no headquarters so the county board decided that the address of the club secretary would be deemed their headquarters. In the days when clubs had no pitches or dressing rooms this was the rule that was followed. In regard to the transfers to Eirns Own last year, I know one of them and he used play with Carlow Town but he lives within six miles of Bagenalstgown. Everything was absolutely in order.

ogormanmahon (Tipperary) - Posts: 66 - 25/02/2010 16:41:32    573124

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Safe hands.
Milford has a pitch. That is its headquarters and if you live beside the pitch of course you can play with the club. Unfortunately, a lot of people posting here about transfers don't know what they're talking about. Get to know the rules lads!!!

ogormanmahon (Tipperary) - Posts: 66 - 25/02/2010 16:44:17    573132

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What if the secretary was living in Dublin and commuted down every night for meetings etc? That's not beyond the realms of possibility these days. Does that mean that somebody from that neck of the woods could transfer to that club as long as he lived within 6 miles of the secretary's home address?

Podge (Carlow) - Posts: 33 - 25/02/2010 17:49:55    573218

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OGORMANMAHON
I hate to have to tell you this,but theres a difference between 6 miles and 6k lol. Anyway so if what your saying is true dat the player was living 6 miles from bagenalstown that would mean he was livin in milford which would mean he should have transferred to naomh brid and not erins own would it not? Anyway it still seems a bit strange to me when as sumone else said how come d kilbride lads were allowed transfer to myshall when kildavin was a lot nearer.

THE BOSS (Carlow) - Posts: 475 - 25/02/2010 20:07:02    573411

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What is going on in our county pistelero?
Qualifying for the Liam Mccarthy in hurling
Holding our own in Div 2 of the league
2 Minor Finals in both codes in last 3 years
New High Performance Centre on the way
Competitive Schools in A, B grade of both codes
Club champions competing well in Club Championships on an annual basis

Dont let one swallow make a summer....When Laois hockey your U21 team it should start to wake you up slowly to whats coming to your county.

getonwithit (Carlow) - Posts: 527 - 25/02/2010 20:09:12    573416

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Safehands get a small bit of a grip on yourself. When did MLR come into this. We dont have anything to do with this and it is not our concern.

As for Garvey if any club has reason to dislike him it is MLR. Concidering what happened when he was over Naomh Brid in that County final. The opposite in fact is the case. We have nothing but good time for him down our way. A hurling man true and true. He treated any of our lads that hurled with the county with the same respect that he treated the others. I wish him the best of luck and if he wants to hurl with Naomh Brid then i think they should let him. He deserves it for services rendered. I dont know that other chap at all but if he wants to hurl, then i say let him hurl. We have enough people that wont hurl. Dont turn away lads that want to hurl.

The real sad part of this is that there is not a vibrant club in Carlow Town for them to hurl in. Anyway safehands stop trying to drag MLR into this. None of our business.

aragorn1 (Carlow) - Posts: 156 - 25/02/2010 21:32:53    573556

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paper never refused ink, what grounds had jason brennan transferring to erins own last year?

polaris (Carlow) - Posts: 53 - 25/02/2010 21:58:04    573610

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Pistelero stop floggin that old dead horse. The whole country including your own co. men know that ye drove a coach and four thru the spirit of the laws of the association during the walsh transfer episode. So pls dont come on here spouting tripe bout laws etc. Its nauseating nonsense and well you know it. Ye havent got fifteen decent footballers and thats why ye did it. So no more holier than thou claptrap thanks.

hogg (Carlow) - Posts: 321 - 26/02/2010 08:29:38    573626

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The Tranfers were a 100% right to be refused. It does not make any since what so ever what all the fuss is about, its not Joe Canning & King Henry we are talking about here. I remember Ballinkillen & Rangers getting hammered by 20 points before they won anything, now Carlow town went through a barren period & these lads want to jump ship. all these tranfers should be stoped its mad lads jumping ship the whole time. why doesn Liam Kenny Play Hurling with Pal when he has played football with them all his life??? as for the other person involved it would be better if he did return to Clare Fact>>>>>>>>>>>>

oki (Carlow) - Posts: 38 - 26/02/2010 10:13:57    573682

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I agree with oki except the last sentence. Carlow Town need all the players they can get. Last year when they beat St Mullins they only had 17 players. This is shocking considering the population in Carlow and surrounding areas. Maybe Eoin Garvey wants to play Intermidiate hurling. In the current situation Carlow Town can't field a second team. I can't comment on Liam Kenny as I know nothing about him. They claim Naomh Brid headquaters is in Ballinabranna, if so they should be allowed play for Naomh Brid.

Someone mentioned about two Carlow Town players transferring to Erins Own. As long as they transfer to a club within 6km its allowed. They do not have to transfer to the nearest club.

hurlingguru (Carlow) - Posts: 1838 - 26/02/2010 10:47:32    573711

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OKI, well said you are 100% right. Pal could do with all the hurlers they can get. its unfair to want to tranfer just because one club is stronger then the other. Look at Rangers for example 20 years ago they were getting beat out the gate in nearly all senior fixtures, but these men the likes of Christy Kealy & John Coleman etc didn jump ship & anyone that did stop hurlin just retired, they even got relagated to intermediate Ranks in 1996, but they got structures in place worked hard developed the youth coming true & now there the standard barers for all & a exaple of if you get in behind the club what great things can happen. Then we have Erins own, the exact same story in the last 10 years getting beat & beat & beat, but what did they do work with the youth no-one as i recall with them jumped ship either, The Byrne's the Doyle's they stood by there club & got to a senior final last year. Eoin & Liam get in behind Carlow Town & push it on, ye are 2 proud men.

Order (Carlow) - Posts: 36 - 26/02/2010 11:13:41    573740

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Like Guru I agree with OKi until the last sentence. Keep the personal stuff out of it, thats o.t.t and unfair. Eoin Garvey has done a power of good for hurling in this county, and when we go on about all our recent success and how it was built up over a few years he has played a crucial role in that.

getonwithit (Carlow) - Posts: 527 - 26/02/2010 11:25:53    573751

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Don't Agree. He could have done a lot better, but he picked his own little group the whole time.

Order (Carlow) - Posts: 36 - 26/02/2010 11:40:59    573774

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