Its all down to economics, if it would make money through adds then they will pay the price,, comparing the world cup to the NFL 4 is a bit OTT. Judging by the attendances at some league games i doubt the advertising generated showing them on TV would cover the cost of the petrol for the Cameraman after paying the GAA for the rights.
What difference does it make to people which channel its on anyway?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 20:45:28    555723

culmore
County: All
Posts: 343

555664 turn on TG4 it has great cover, Tipp and Laois is on now

A classic. Hope the northern licence covers it

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 20:55:50    555740

08/02/2010 20:55:50
dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 4845

555740 culmore
County: All
Posts: 343

555664 turn on TG4 it has great cover, Tipp and Laois is on now

A classic. Hope the northern licence covers it
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There is only one man that I can think of that is obliged to pay for 2 TV licences, though he is Armagh/Louth rather than Antrim. Though I would tend not to argue with him.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 08/02/2010 21:02:47    555750

dhorse, my point was that the GAA (and RTE our national broadcaster) should market our games better, ensuring that all NFL games get TV coverage. A lot of the blame for the poor TV programmes should go to the GAA themselves, in my opinion, as they negotiate the TV deals with so many different broadcasters.

RTE can afford to send radio reporters to each county ground but not cameras seemingly. I don't know how much more it would cost to have cameras at 16county grounds every weekend, (maybe it would be so expensive that it would just be economically crazy, I don't know) but I certainly would like to see a proper highlights show, not just an edited version of whatever the live games were.

On BBC Scotland last night (similar size market to here) they had a highlights programme on the Scottish Cup, showing the goals from all the matches. After the previous round they had a similar programme including highlights of even non-league teams followed by only a few hundred people (on a good day). Why can't we expect our national broadcaster to do the same?

The point about the disciplinary thing is only an added benefit and not central to my argument.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 08/02/2010 21:06:53    555760

Dhorse, part of the Good Friday Agreement stated that TG4 has to be avaible to those in the North as it is an Irish Language channel. Not getting involved with you and Bumpernut just providing info

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 08/02/2010 21:12:00    555771

'Why would RTE go to the expense of setting up cameras at everygame to sort out the GAAs disciplinary problems, I dont think that even falls under the Perceived entitlements category, its in the delusionary dept. As for your man paying both TV licences, well that certainly outs him as a spoofer, unless he has a house in both jurisdictions of course'


Drat there goes that cunning plan!! However, the question is am i perceived as a spoofer or am i a real one?

Signed

Your man.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 21:17:20    555783

re bumpernut: Why the hell would people from the 26counties pay towards the running of the British Broadcasting Corporation? And are you suggesting that people from the north are paying the RTE licence fee out of some form of bizarre patriotism?


Wise up!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 21:19:56    555792

There is only one man that I can think of that is obliged to pay for 2 TV licences, though he is Armagh/Louth rather than Antrim. Though I would tend not to argue with him.


I assume you are talking about stiofan(or maybe stefan) white then rua!!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 21:22:42    555795

OK so

Paying ones licence entitles you to coverage if less popular sporting occasions
Under the good Friday agreement we are one big happy 32 county airwave.

Anyone agree with me that Tandragee crown green bowling is poory represented by TG4.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 08/02/2010 21:32:37    555807

Omagh,

The Good Friday Agreement as we know(excluding 'your man') ring fences our entitlement to be either irish or british.

I often wonder is there a desire among certain posters to extend that dual citizenship further south!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 21:32:41    555808

08/02/2010 20:45:28
dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 4845

555723
Its all down to economics, if it would make money through adds then they will pay the price,, comparing the world cup to the NFL 4 is a bit OTT. Judging by the attendances at some league games i doubt the advertising generated showing them on TV would cover the cost of the petrol for the Cameraman after paying the GAA for the rights.
What difference does it make to people which channel its on anyway?
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dhorse, don't read too much into NFL match attendances, they are in poor weather and fans often have to make long journeys. I'm not able to travel to all Wexford's away games in Louth, Roscommon, Fermanagh, etc. but would still like to see highlights of these games, however brief.

I would never consider attending one of Laois' NFL games, for example, but I would like to see highlights of their games on TV - the best scores, contraversial incidents, etc., because I am a sports (GAA) fan. Although I don't support either team I still enjoy watching the goals and incidents from Sunderland vs. Wigan on MOTD. I'm sure many other GAA and sport followers are the same.

The GAA should give the rights to a proper highlight show away for free if the cost is too prohibitive as you suggest, as it would help raise the profile of our Gaelic games. I don't think this would affect attendances at all, fans who go to matches now will still go to matches to see the team in person and to see the whole game. And the TV audience would surely increase if we had a proper highlights show, with people from every county tuning in in the knowledge that they would see action involving their team.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 08/02/2010 21:32:51    555810

08/02/2010 16:42:35
bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 420

Because we like to pay our way unlike those residing in Laois and watching the BBC/UTV
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Wise up yourself

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 08/02/2010 21:34:12    555812

08/02/2010 21:22:42
bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 420

555795 There is only one man that I can think of that is obliged to pay for 2 TV licences, though he is Armagh/Louth rather than Antrim. Though I would tend not to argue with him.


I assume you are talking about stiofan(or maybe stefan) white then rua!!!
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No I'd prefer not to say as the man in question is no stranger to the Libel courts

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 08/02/2010 21:34:16    555813

Big Iano
County: Cavan
Posts: 131

555462 dhorse would you mind explaining what exactly your opposition to a highlights programme showing action from all the NFL games is?

I have absolutely no objection whatsoever, i merely suggested that i doubted if people had an entitlement to such a proramme being shown by RTE



Iano,

He has no problem whatsoever with a highlights programme however he does object to anyone from 'this here wee pravince' expressing an opinion on HIS national broadcaster. I simply made a point that surely the licence payers are entitled to a highlights program based on the numbers either playing or attending gaelic games, see below with the inference that my opinion is irrelevant as i am not from the 'Free State'.

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 4847

555114
bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 413

555097 So everyone that pays a TV licence is entitled to have their favourite topic Shown on TV.?
If the amount of people going to kilkenny's games is anything to go by there's not too many people interested


Yep! As a national broadcaster there is an obligation to cater for the biggest spectator sport in the country.


Ah you had me there.. Kilkenny football being a spectator sport blew it though. do you have a Free state TV licence?

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 21:48:36    555849

nocky
County: Wexford
Posts: 1337

555812
08/02/2010 16:42:35
bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 420

Because we like to pay our way unlike those residing in Laois and watching the BBC/UTV
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Wise up yourself


My da is bigger than your da!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 21:51:15    555853

ruanua the man you refer to is a neighbour of mine (and a very good one), his house like at least a dozen others I know is divided in two by the border which means that they have bedrooms in Louth and living rooms in Armagh etc.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 09/02/2010 09:25:33    555914

Tom, are they Armagh or Louth supporters?

blu (Down) - Posts: 1240 - 09/02/2010 10:18:16    555963

09/02/2010 09:25:33
Tom1916
County: Armagh
Posts: 663

555914 ruanua the man you refer to is a neighbour of mine (and a very good one), his house like at least a dozen others I know is divided in two by the border which means that they have bedrooms in Louth and living rooms in Armagh etc.
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Tom1916

Wasn't offering any opinion on him other than the fact that it was the only scenario that I could envisage where someone would be obliged to have two TV Licences
Though I suppose it comes down to which room the TV's are located in.
Presume there are several people with a similar problem though he is the only one that I am aware of because he has a public profile - though by all accounts he does not seek this profile and appears top be someone who values his privacy.

Bumpernut however would appear to have 2 TV licences not through any legal obligation but through a gestre of Patriotism which is indeed very noble and to be commended.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 09/02/2010 10:25:30    555972

Rua,

I will not have anybody questioning my commitment to the cause!!

I think all 'nordies', and yes i include donegal,cavan and monaghan should contribute to the economies of both jurisdictions, obviously with the exception of you know who!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 09/02/2010 11:18:23    556009

bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 423

555853 nocky
County: Wexford
Posts: 1337

555812
08/02/2010 16:42:35
bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 420

Because we like to pay our way unlike those residing in Laois and watching the BBC/UTV


Anybody watching BBC/UTV in laois pays for it via their signal supplier, i live in dublin and pay for it through Chorus, I still reckon your dual citizenship linked to paying a southern TV licence is SPOOF. Dual citizenship is available to a large section of the southern population also.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 09/02/2010 15:11:19    556309