dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 4813

555054 Informer
County: All
Posts: 52

Every county is entitled to get some airtime..even London or KIlkenny footballers!

Where does this entitlement come from?

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Every County & most of their supporters are paid up members of the GAA. The GAA negociate these TV rights deals with RTE or whoever else, so as members we are entiltled to the best possible coverage.

blu (Down) - Posts: 1240 - 08/02/2010 15:35:22    555142

bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 413

555097 So everyone that pays a TV licence is entitled to have their favourite topic Shown on TV.?
If the amount of people going to kilkenny's games is anything to go by there's not too many people interested


Yep! As a national broadcaster there is an obligation to cater for the biggest spectator sport in the country.


Ah you had me there.. Kilkenny football being a spectator sport blew it though. do you have a Free state TV licence?



Thats a great rationale, so because maybe 100 people go to watch a game then that match should not be shown in a highlights programme, i wonder would you apply your logic to the laois hurlers as well then!

As for having a Free state TV licence, we have both, the joys of dual citizenship!!

My da will be getting his free passport next year courtesy of the Free state!

And then his free bus pass in 5 years time courtesy of the Free State!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 15:37:57    555147

Ah you had me there.. Kilkenny football being a spectator sport blew it though. do you have a Free state TV licence?


Not being cheeky but do you?? Does everyone in the Free state who watches tv have one?? Doubt it. :)

frankbhoy77 (Antrim) - Posts: 1300 - 08/02/2010 15:43:42    555166

frankbhoy77
County: Antrim
Posts: 346

555166 Ah you had me there.. Kilkenny football being a spectator sport blew it though. do you have a Free state TV licence?


Not being cheeky but do you?? Does everyone in the Free state who watches tv have one?? Doubt it. :)

i certainly do,,, i dont think the ones that dont have any right to complain.

the ones that dont are usually the ones to whinge loudest about their "entitlements"

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 15:54:55    555191

bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 414

555147 bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 413

555097 So everyone that pays a TV licence is entitled to have their favourite topic Shown on TV.?
If the amount of people going to kilkenny's games is anything to go by there's not too many people interested


Yep! As a national broadcaster there is an obligation to cater for the biggest spectator sport in the country.


Ah you had me there.. Kilkenny football being a spectator sport blew it though. do you have a Free state TV licence?



Thats a great rationale, so because maybe 100 people go to watch a game then that match should not be shown in a highlights programme, i wonder would you apply your logic to the laois hurlers as well then! ***** i certaily would even though they might get a few more than the KK footballers. following on your rationale every sport event should get coverage. Someone said that GAA and RTE negoiate these things, perhaps the GAA could subsidise RTE or TV3 to show all the games highlights as it is they Pay the GAA

As for having a Free state TV licence, we have both, the joys of dual citizenship!! if you have a southern licence you must reside in the south, why have both?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 16:01:11    555201

There were some interesting results yesterday and I would've loved to have seen hightlights from a few more games. Down and Kildare as well as the Cork Monaghan game as it looked like a cracker. 6 goals and a one point of win.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13795 - 08/02/2010 16:31:12    555256

Big Iano
County: Cavan
Posts: 130

554892 When are RTE going to give us a decent highlights programme for the NFL which has footage of all the weekend games - surely there is the market seeing as the league groups are organised outside the provincial system and therefore there can be much greater travelling distances involved for fans making at least some of them less likely to go.
08/02/2010 13:45:47
redandgreen
County: All
Posts: 560

554985 I cant understand why they wont give us a "match of the day" type programme showing highlights of all the games played around the country. It would be great entertainment for an hour and a half on a sunday night. Re-showing the games that we've already seen live that day is a waste of time



Well there you have it redandgreen and big Iano, our friend from Laois thinks you shouldnt be whinging about your entitlement!

Or maybe hes getting confused in all his excitement about the cheek of the nordies expressing an opinion on HIS national broadcaster!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 16:40:39    555274

As for having a Free state TV licence, we have both, the joys of dual citizenship!! if you have a southern licence you must reside in the south, why have both?


Because we like to pay our way unlike those residing in Laois and watching the BBC/UTV

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/02/2010 16:42:35    555278

I do think RTE/TG4, TV3, BBC, Setanta or whoever should have cameras set up at all the county grounds between them for the league. The GAA themselves should do more, they should make it a prerequisite for getting rights to championship matches. The cameras are needed anyway for disciplinary issues. Edit together a brief highlights package from the games for Sunday Sport (or similar programme), with a few featured matches each week (not all involving the same counties over and over again). The GAA isn't great at promoting and displaying our games, rugby and soccer both have better highlights shows.


re bumpernut: Why the hell would people from the 26counties pay towards the running of the British Broadcasting Corporation? And are you suggesting that people from the north are paying the RTE licence fee out of some form of bizarre patriotism?

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 08/02/2010 17:29:50    555385

To get back to the boule Marty , yes I concede his hairdo and wardrobe are straight out of the Adams Family , but whatabout Monsieur Woods sporting the intruiging splayed brush forward. A rather fetching an unique adaptation , and not a little scary.

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 08/02/2010 17:51:48    555443

dhorse would you mind explaining what exactly your opposition to a highlights programme showing action from all the NFL games is?


As an aside - surely greater TV exposure would benefit weaker teams such as kilkenny - obviously football is very much a minority sport but if kilkenny supporters (or those in any other county where football/hurling is weak) had the opportunity to see there team and liked what they saw they would be more inclined to attend matches.

Big Iano (Cavan) - Posts: 188 - 08/02/2010 17:57:32    555462

A thread was started titled 'RTE mistreating the NFL'. The content has been moved here to keep all postings on the one thread.

08/02/2010 16:27:52
PK57
County: Louth
Posts: 453

555253 I think it is a disgrace how the nfl is treated by rte. They do not show any live games and as for sunday sport it is just rubbish. What is laughable is that rte will show some league of ireland game in which no one will go to the game and no one will be watching it yet they do not show the gaa until the summer. Rte should be told by the gaa that if they are not going to bother showing league games then they can not show ch'ship games.
08/02/2010 17:23:09
Fr.Ted.Crilly
County: Derry
Posts: 38

555364 RTE doesn't have rights to show NFL games live, as far as I know Setanta have rights to the League TG4 to the Mc Kenna Cups etc. Much like the way SKY and ESPN can show Premier League games but ITV can't.

Probably better if you did a bit of research into things before lambasting them.
08/02/2010 17:33:28
blu
County: Down
Posts: 633

555396 I dont know all the facts but would think its down to the deals the GAA have done with the TV companies. If this is the case it is the GAA who are mistreating the NFL.
08/02/2010 17:34:07
BIG SACKS
County: Tyrone
Posts: 939

555398 How can any tv station be accused of treating the League with a lack of respect when managers show it so little respect? I would say there were at least three counties in Div 1 and 2 which put in a very small effort over the weekend and that is without going into the lower leagues. The players may not be professionals but the GAA has no problem charging a tenner to get in to see these sham matches.
08/02/2010 17:41:30
Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 1944

555415 PK is right tho ted.

As for the rights, TG4 also have league rights. But the fact that rte dont have them is no excuse. Why dont they pay 4 them? We pay our TV licenses for that. TG4 & setanta dont get any of the tv licence money yet they pay for the rights. RTE is the state broadcaster & should be paying for these games & showing them, not just taking the glamour end of it during the summer.

Maybe its you that should check your facts before lambasting PK57
08/02/2010 17:41:58
dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 4832

Administrator (None) - Posts: 535 - 08/02/2010 18:07:07    555478

Second batch as per above

555416 PK57
County: Louth
Posts: 453
Take the man of the cloth's advice and arm yourself with some general information
08/02/2010 17:43:39
gaelantrim
County: Antrim
Posts: 527

555423 Tg4 actually showed the Kerry v Dublin game. Must say I agree with ye Pk. I think its a bit of a joke that RTE arent really interested in competing for matches. Having said that the GAA arent doin themselves any favours by failing to sell the NFL. O.K its not our premier event but surely a bit more effort could go into the marketing process. It should be treated with a little more gravitas. If ye look at division 1 for example , ye have eight top class footballin counties and they all have to play each other during the campaign. The two counties with the most points then have to play off in a decider. Therefore last year Kerry had to play 8 seriously competetive games to be crowned champions. That was a much tougher order than they faced in the AI . I cannot understand why the league is not considered the true test of a county's stature rather than the AI. Much as i dearly love the AI I feel the NFL is sometimes overlooked.
08/02/2010 17:53:06
dammon
County: Meath
Posts: 294

555447 Setanta have the rights to the saturday games and TG4 to the Sunday games
08/02/2010 17:58:55
Fr.Ted.Crilly
County: Derry
Posts: 38

555464 Jinxie

I have my facts in order, what you just said is merely an opinion opposed to hard facts. Don't get me wrong I would prefer all games to be on RTE where everone can watch them, however think of the funding the GAA are getting from the sale of the rights to these games to Setanta etc? Could RTE match these? And if so what would be the repercussions, higher TV licence (I assume Southern people pay their TV licence for Rte? As far as I know ours is only for BBC) or even the championship being sold in order to afford the league matches?

Administrator (None) - Posts: 535 - 08/02/2010 18:07:27    555480

Ted cri.....

I know what ur saying & I see your point, but if RTE have the money for the rights for EVERY game of the World cup, when Ireland arent even involved, then surely they can put an interest into their own sports aswell!
They have no problem paying for champ lge rights, even tho the same game they show is generall on utv the same night.
Even if they didnt show live games, but had a proper highlights show on a mon night dedicated to the leagues. 90 mins of highlights shouldnt be too much to ask.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 08/02/2010 18:29:23    555521

Sorry orlaith, didnt see this thread and just opened something similar on non-gaa board about his face. Its unbelievable... Imagine tourists watching all-ireland talent show then sunday sport. What would they think!!

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 08/02/2010 18:43:22    555540

bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 416







Well there you have it redandgreen and big Iano, our friend from Laois thinks you shouldnt be whinging about your entitlement!

There is a big difference my friend between Perceived entitlements and Real entitlements

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 20:01:10    555656

Check again re your assertion that TG4 dont get licence fee.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 20:04:26    555661

Big Iano
County: Cavan
Posts: 131

555462 dhorse would you mind explaining what exactly your opposition to a highlights programme showing action from all the NFL games is?

I have absolutely no objection whatsoever, i merely suggested that i doubted if people had an entitlement to such a proramme being shown by RTE

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 20:06:25    555663

turn on TG4 it has great cover, Tipp and Laois is on now

culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 08/02/2010 20:06:33    555664

bumpernut
County: Antrim
Posts: 416

555278 As for having a Free state TV licence, we have both, the joys of dual citizenship!! if you have a southern licence you must reside in the south, why have both?


Because we like to pay our way unlike those residing in Laois and watching the BBC/UTV
08/02/2010 17:29:50
nocky
County: Wexford
Posts: 1332

555385 I do think RTE/TG4, TV3, BBC, Setanta or whoever should have cameras set up at all the county grounds between them for the league. The GAA themselves should do more, they should make it a prerequisite for getting rights to championship matches. The cameras are needed anyway for disciplinary issues. Edit together a brief highlights package from the games for Sunday Sport (or similar programme), with a few featured matches each week (not all involving the same counties over and over again). The GAA isn't great at promoting and displaying our games, rugby and soccer both have better highlights shows.


re bumpernut: Why the hell would people from the 26counties pay towards the running of the British Broadcasting Corporation? And are you suggesting that people from the north are paying the RTE licence fee out of some form of bizarre patriotism?
08/02/2010 17:51:48


Why would RTE go to the expense of setting up cameras at everygame to sort out the GAAs disciplinary problems, I dont think that even falls under the Perceived entitlements category, its in the delusionary dept. As for your man paying both TV licences, well that certainly outs him as a spoofer, unless he has a house in both jurisdictions of course

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 20:12:59    555675