need a club forum a good month before AGM to discuss clubs issues and agree a way forward. just gets brushed aside at AGM

tommy g (None) - Posts: 171 - 13/08/2010 13:46:41    745308

Botheredagain, your 100% bang on!

Cant imagine the state it will be in if those board members are left to carry on for another year.

And yes, its about doing something now! My own club have had enough of this carry on the last couple of years.

Every club has a representative that attends or should anyway a county meeting most months. I believe the next one is scheduled for the 30th August. (As its a bank holiday i'm sure that's another balls up they have done...) So i'm waiting for confirmation on that!

I along with another member of my club will be attending the next meeting anyway and will be asking initially what the present board have in mind to resolve this farcical league they are running. However, one club wont bother these people. All clubs that feel thy are being affected need to be in attendance.

As, for the league tables.......laughable. Fantasy football!! I hear Chad's are top of the intermediate league having won every game due to teams not fielding against them!!!

county (Antrim) - Posts: 61 - 13/08/2010 14:55:36    745405

Carracastle thanks for the welcome. Yeh Derby lads are serious so will be more than likely be getting the team registered. Any advice for us coz seen from ur posts that u seem to be involved in some club in Warwickshire?

InTheRamsHead (Roscommon) - Posts: 3 - 14/08/2010 14:28:39    746014

Hi All
I have put a league table together as I see it, as the county board can't be bothered or perhaps have lost track!!

Senior League P W D L Pts
St Barnabas 6 5 0 1 10
Roger Casement's 7 5 0 2 10
Erin Go Bragh 7 4 0 3 8
Sean McDermott's 8 4 0 4 8
John Mitchell's 7 3 0 4 6
Fourmasters 7 0 0 7 0

Anyone disagree I,m sure you will let me know.

togout (UK) - Posts: 22 - 15/08/2010 13:28:26    746390

Another weekend and another team not botherd to play Mary's.

If this carries on the current Warks board will be responsible to the game dying out. Sure it's half way there already.

Burdo (Dublin) - Posts: 29 - 15/08/2010 19:20:13    746592

I'm hearing the Casements v Macs game is going on the 29th now, Casements want it moved but Macs are refusing. It's great that they can have the date moved (all good reason to be fair) yet the team they play have no say. The Champ dates were published a long time ago and people may have organised things around this, Macs not compromising - They are obviously afraid to play against a full strength. County Board doing their usual bowing to Macs.

thesilentone (UK) - Posts: 146 - 16/08/2010 14:21:08    747104

this might be a mad thing all-together, but why not scrap the intermediate league. fair enough some of the weaker teams will take a hiding, but at least they get more regular football and i cant see anyone doing as bad against the current senior outfits as masters have?

im not 100% on the rules/regulations, but surely expanding so 'everyone plays everyone' will at least help keep the spirit going in Warwickshire.

The intermediate teams will step up their commitment and training if they know they have to face the likes of Casements and StB every other week!

HowstheHorse (UK) - Posts: 81 - 16/08/2010 19:41:15    747563

thesiletone , the championship dates were set earlier in the year , macs straight away requested that if they reached the semi final that thier game not be played on the first sunday in August , they requested it be moved and it was to the last sunday in August. This was agreed at a county board meeting back in March or April, the other clubs in the other group were asked if this was ok and they all agreed.
Casements have never requested that the game be moved from that date , not at a county board meeting anyway , and as you say im sure a lot of people have organised their diarys around this , so what's the problem ? are you saying that the county board should move the game for casements or are you saying that it should remain as it is? if it is moved then im sure that macs wouldnt play as im sure that they have geared up towards the 29th, what is the reason for casements wanting the game moved ? it must be something to do with hurling as if it was anything else then they should have objected to the game being played on that date back at the earlier county board meeting. anyway whenever the game is played i just cant see casements having enough for macs , cant really see anything in thier way now of getting the 5 in a row that they are desperate to acheive , casements should concentrate on winning the league this year i think they have a good chance on doing that and Macs for the championship

knowle (Roscommon) - Posts: 82 - 17/08/2010 11:47:12    747904

In reply to talk of intermediate teams stepping up their commitment and training, at marys we've been training twice a week for the best part of six months and we've only had three competative games in that time. How can we possibly do any more than we already are if every other team at this level won't turn out to fulfill fixtures.
Its become a bit of a running joke on thursday nights when were told we've got a game that weekend which we know will probably be cancelled by saturday afternoon.

citywolf (UK) - Posts: 1 - 17/08/2010 12:27:19    747963

CityWolf: That is why i suggested moving you up into the senior league so that you get more fixtures. Im not doubting your clubs commitment to training, im sure its as good as any. If you feel that strongly about it, get your team up into the senior league and see if your twice a week training sessions have paid off. Otherwise you will find the same thing happening year after year.

HowstheHorse (UK) - Posts: 81 - 17/08/2010 13:47:39    748112

Well looks like a St Barn v Macs final, as casements cant field on 29th as 8 seniors at wedding in ireland and despite no one objecting to Macs moving the semi in the first place they wont help casements who have offered to play any other weekend or day. County board are doing the usual and bowing to Macs. Good luck to St B in the final against Macs. Shame for casements tho.

dmc237 (None) - Posts: 6 - 17/08/2010 14:04:24    748146

Casements were never serious contenters anyhow, roll on the final and a tough battle with STB, five in a row is looking good for us now, EGB, Mitchells and casements seasons have amounted to nothing again this season after all the chat at the start of the year.

macsforfive (Tipperary) - Posts: 164 - 17/08/2010 15:44:19    748305

I think the fact that Macs are worried about casements is the very reason they wont agree to move the semi final. We will never know what casements season could have amounted to though as Macs refusing to budge. Fair play to ST B who had no problem moving date of the final to accomodate macs v casements playing on 12 sept with final on 26th Sept. Only macs who refused to move. Flights for semi and final must have been booked well in advance!

tommy g (None) - Posts: 171 - 17/08/2010 16:05:05    748361

dmc237 as i said before why didnt casements say no at the county board meeting when the date for the semi ,should macs reach it was fixed , surley they knew about a wedding that 8 of their squad would be attending ? , the casements team should feel agreived with thier own club mentors who represent them at county board meetings.

knowle (Roscommon) - Posts: 82 - 17/08/2010 16:28:48    748419

This completely devalues the competition. What a shame.

haroldbishop (UK) - Posts: 46 - 17/08/2010 17:12:43    748514

Knowle, I don't think its 8 players but thats not the point. Macs have a valid reason which is not being questioned. There has been lots of talks immediately when we found out we would Macs on this date about our players and availbility, but they are consulting with Macs and not judging and making their own stance. At no point on here will you see Casements talking up their season before it began about winning County C'Ship, everyone can feel free to prove me wrong.

It's clear that Macs want to insist the game goes ahead as they are aware of the surrounding issue. The fear they show in playing a full strength side is apparent. However I do hope the lads that tog out on the day go and put Macs in their pockets, the same way Macs have the County Board in their pockets. I believe Casements have given every other alternative to this date (even moving the County Final), that has not been accepted by Macs. Make up your own minds lads, you know the truth.

thesilentone (UK) - Posts: 146 - 17/08/2010 17:12:47    748515

tommyg & thesilentone, why is it your club only requested two weeks ago for this game to be moved to another date, if you had a wedding on this w`end surely someone in your club would have seen sense & requested this w`end free, but you only mentioned this wedding two weeks ago `FACT`.
As Knowle has said in an earlier post this date was set back in March when the c`ship draw was made, and every club was asked at the meeting if they were ok with this date if Macs made it to semi-final, and all clubs were ok with this. So whats the problem now ????

By the way Barnabus did not agree with the final being moved to the 26th september, so that is utter nonsense. You also forget to mention that the game is being played at 7.30 pm on the bank holiday w`end, so the county board is bending over backwards to accomadate your club. Can you tell me when the county board has ever done Macs any favours ????

The reason for Macs not agreeing to change the game is simple, we told our players what date the game was fixed for and they booked their holidays around this game.

By the way fair play to JM for playing their semi-final when short 4 or 5 players on the set date, and not running to the county board unlike some others.

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 17/08/2010 17:45:57    748544

harold bishop , how does this game devalue the competition ? the date was set months ago , it was agreed ! why should it be moved now , get a grip man , there is always guys moaning about not knowing fixture dates , well this one was set 4 months ago , and its still not good enough for some people , cant you see , where else would you get this except warwickshire , Casements agreed that should mac's reach their semi final then the game would be played on the 29th , mitchels & Four masters also agreed should this be the case , thesilentone you seem a reasonable guy , you must appreciate that the macs squad has set their own holidays , training etc around this date ? they have done nothing wrong , but once again are being frowned upon here , which should not be the case , Casements have created this problem themselves by not letting the county board know months ago that they would not be available on this date.
Harold bishop , i feel that there are some sour grapes with you as your club are no longer in contention for any silverware this year , again concentrate on your own club and let the bigger clubs in the county contest the honoursthis year

knowle (Roscommon) - Posts: 82 - 18/08/2010 09:01:41    748936

Knowle - simple fact is that when it was agreed to move Macs semi final we did not know about the wedding which is why our delegates agreed to it i asssume (although why it was set for a bank holiday weekend i will never know). It only came to light in mid july that the lads were invited to a wedding and a request was sent to the county board then to move semi to any other date. I think we could stand missing 4 players from the team but 8 just means we have no hope in the game. I can see Macs point as well that they have geared up for a date but i suppose we felt we had a chance this year and wanted to try and get as strong a team out as possible. Ah well theres always next year!!

tommy g (None) - Posts: 171 - 18/08/2010 10:08:15    748997

Easy it devalues the competition because Casements wont have put their best foot forward. They are in a county semi

haroldbishop (UK) - Posts: 46 - 18/08/2010 11:59:14    749132