On the main forum there are whisperings that this PSNI lad was intimidated out of his home club, Creggan nr Toome in Antrim when he joined the PSNI?
Have we gone beyond that in Tyrone or do you think something similar would happen in our county.
Sadly i feel that certain clubs or at least people associated with them would still find it hard to accept a member of the British Security forces in their ranks!!

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 13/01/2010 11:07:49    531689

Cant speak for Tyrone but there are some clubs in Down where it would be generally accepted. He did play for St Pauls in Holywood. There are other clubs though where I cant ever see a policeman playing. There is probably a third type of club where one on their own joining the police & continuing to play would be tolerated (as opposed to a policeman from else where joining St Pauls).

blu (Down) - Posts: 1240 - 13/01/2010 12:37:08    531771

Yes there is still intimidation going on in our club - by the PSNI (RUC in diff clothes). Our players are still picked on because they are wearing a gaa jersey or carrying a gaa kitbag.

2leftfeet (None) - Posts: 130 - 13/01/2010 14:03:46    531873

Intimidated they should have never been allowed to join the GAA in the 1st place the majority of the clubs in N.Ireland state where totally against it, some fella wants to cross over and join the PSNI then he should forfeit is membership with the Gaa. These are just my views you may not agree but i dont care.

Coors (Tyrone) - Posts: 3 - 13/01/2010 15:30:34    531979

Coors
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2

Mr Ra, should all other public servants have to forfeit their membership as well?

mugsys_barber (Tyrone) - Posts: 2160 - 13/01/2010 15:50:12    532008

Coors
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2

531979 Intimidated they should have never been allowed to join the GAA in the 1st place the majority of the clubs in N.Ireland state where totally against it, some fella wants to cross over and join the PSNI then he should forfeit is membership with the Gaa. These are just my views you may not agree but i dont care.

Thats a hell of a statement for your 2nd ever post, dont get me wrong im not the psni's buggest fan but the more people that embrace our games the better in my opinion, we cant keep living in the past our we'll miss the future. I think mickey said something like that in his book.

duke_raul (Tyrone) - Posts: 993 - 13/01/2010 19:59:53    532325

Coors
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2

531979
Intimidated they should have never been allowed to join the GAA in the 1st place the majority of the clubs in N.Ireland state where totally against it, some fella wants to cross over and join the PSNI then he should forfeit is membership with the Gaa. These are just my views you may not agree but i dont care.

It makes me so sad to read a post like this. What is our future when outdated opinion and ideology still prevails. Is our GAA an inclusive organisation or not?

caughtredhanded (Tyrone) - Posts: 602 - 13/01/2010 20:56:07    532394

Ver hard one this because for years and still do at times , . However they should have the right to play for whatever club they even though i would be against it a small bit but would not kick up about it.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 13/01/2010 21:10:04    532411

Very hard one this because the security forces badgrer gaa poeple for years and still do at times , . However they should have the right to play for whatever club they even though i would be against it a small bit but would not kick up about it.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 13/01/2010 21:11:13    532413

Why are you against this Dell a small bit? Is it not good that we are finally working towards a Police Force that is representative of the community? Or should GAA playing Police men be forced out so we end up with a Police Force that is 90%+ of one religion. Doubt I'll get a reply because you're unable to back up this bigotted argument of yours, it's the 21st century man, grow up

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 15/01/2010 14:54:08    533900

PomeroyPlunkett

I have no problem having a debate but if your going to go as far as childish remarks i will refuse to comment to you.

Now on the issue clubs and gaa poeple are still getting hassle of the PSNI/RUC and that is why am against it in a small way.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 15/01/2010 15:28:30    533949

You'll only change things like PSNI harassment from within not from the outside.

mossgreen (Tyrone) - Posts: 181 - 15/01/2010 18:17:33    534207

15/01/2010 15:28:30
Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 9095

533949 PomeroyPlunkett

I have no problem having a debate but if your going to go as far as childish remarks i will refuse to comment to you.

Now on the issue clubs and gaa poeple are still getting hassle of the PSNI/RUC and that is why am against it in a small way.


How do you know? are the gardai passing on info to you?

Mick O Connell (None) - Posts: 1231 - 15/01/2010 18:22:16    534218

The police is still largely a sectaian force but it has improved. I have no problems with the guys who go out and get a decent standard of living by joining the police. With the policing board and hopefully the devolution of policing and justice the police can no longer be an extension of loyalist extremists. The only way the police can continue to improve is if nationalists join it. It really is no worse than any other job in the NI civil service or indeed the guy/gal who collects unemployment benefit. The police is no longer about imposing British occupation - it is about delivering domestic law to the local citizens of the 6 counties and in the absence of the gardai we have to rely on the PSNI to deliver that.

There is a wider issue though that might cloud some peoples judgement. A policeman in a social grouping will always present some tension. There is a statement often used in other jurisdictions "once a policeman, always a policeman". Take a grouping where maybe somebody might take a drink on the way home, where someone talks of doing the double, or evading taxes, where discussion is about sorting somebody out or what somebody is rumoured to have done. Maybe it is about a cheap source of fuel of the Daz variety. In that social grouping the relaxed conversation that might have existed will no longer be possible. As such the reason for not wanting a police officer involved with a club might not all be about politics??

John Boss (Tyrone) - Posts: 865 - 16/01/2010 13:45:56    534604

John Boss
County: Tyrone
Posts: 576

534604
"The police is still largely a sectaian force but it has improved."

How can it still be largely a sectarian force?. The good friday agreement was signed 12 years ago ending any tolerance of sectarian hatred within govermental institutions. The psni is an impartial force. Remeber it was dissidents who commited this act against a police officer, it had nothing to do with the police being sectarian. Sure they have there own GAA team, which wouldnt have happened in the RUC as they WERE a sectarian force. N.I has moved on, its just a few close-minded people who want to drag us back to troubled times.

joedon (Tyrone) - Posts: 79 - 17/01/2010 12:28:39    535083

joedon Why have not the PSNI not signed the papers for the club that had there rooms burned down after all there suppose to move on.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 20/01/2010 10:41:49    537731

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 9340

Why have not the PSNI not signed the papers for the club that had there rooms burned down after all there suppose to move on.


Did cookstown never get that sorted?

BobbyB (Tyrone) - Posts: 369 - 21/01/2010 21:09:57    539490

BobbyB
County: Tyrone
Posts: 199

Never did and it is a disgrace .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/01/2010 21:18:26    539508

13/01/2010 19:59:53 duke_raul County: Tyrone Posts: 450 532325 Coors County: Tyrone Posts: 2 531979 Intimidated they should have never been allowed to join the GAA in the 1st place the majority of the clubs in N.Ireland state where totally against it, some fella wants to cross over and join the PSNI then he should forfeit is membership with the Gaa. These are just my views you may not agree but i dont care. Thats a hell of a statement for your 2nd ever post, dont get me wrong im not the psni's buggest fan but the more people that embrace our games the better in my opinion, we cant keep living in the past our we'll miss the future. I think mickey said something like that in his book. ----------- id say coors is a regular poster but like many loyalist parimilitaries decided to set up a new organisation (username) to do some of his more extreme business rather than have his mainstream posting name tarnished by what some might preceive to be bigotted views.

joan_balantine (UK) - Posts: 824 - 22/01/2010 10:28:43    539688

The PSNI are still a British police force because they ultimately derive their power from the British Government in Westminster and Queen Elizabeth (this will remain the case after Policing and Justice powers are returned to stormont).
I could never and will never accept the PSNI as a legitimate police force as they uphold the laws of a British state in Ireland along with their MI5 partners outside Belfast. To em it was never a case of the the RUC/PSNI being a sectarian force (of which of course they were), it was always about their upholding British law in my country....just because Catholics join the force doesnt mean it is not British...there are plenty of Catholics who are Unionist.

People can say that I am harping back to the past however the wrongs have not been dealt with and some Catholics joinning it will not aid these wrongs. There are many people within the Republican community who cannot support the police for the reasons I have outlined above, therefore there will be many clubs who will not accept a member of teh PSNI playing for their club either, that does not mean in any way I would support the actions taken against the serving PSNI officer, however it does mean if a PSNI officer was allowed to play on my team - I wouldnt be playing on it - and there would be alot the same as myself.

RuaHughONeill (Tyrone) - Posts: 110 - 25/01/2010 17:06:47    542059