R Maguire Longwood
A Ennis Longwood
John Cullinane Longwood
M Doran Ballivor
J Ginnity Castletown
G Farrelly Castletown
C Carry Drumbaragh
W Carry Drumbaragh
E Nulty Drumbaragh
S Kiernan K'wood
B Lynch Kilmainham
M Newman Kilmainham
TJ Garry Dunderry
M Tully Meath Hill
A Matthews Meath Hill
T Skelly Drumconrath
S Crosby Drumconrath
C Lynch St Michaels
D Flood St Michaels

happydude (Meath) - Posts: 234 - 18/01/2010 19:50:59    536451

Happydude,

Do you honestly not think that an oldcastle players deserves a spot on the panel yet you have 3 drumbaragh players?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 18/01/2010 20:36:34    536518

Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 1617

536518 Happydude,

Do you honestly not think that an oldcastle players deserves a spot on the panel yet you have 3 drumbaragh players?

I have to agree there with you boss.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 19/01/2010 11:41:29    536815

Jinxie
County: Meath
Posts: 1618

Happydude,

Do you honestly not think that an oldcastle players deserves a spot on the panel yet you have 3 drumbaragh players?

That was an accidental omission as hoganstand didnt post my original post which included T Farrelly, P Gilsenan and N Galligan.
Also if Eoin Gilsenan doesnt make the senior team I'd say he'll be a cert to be on the juniors.

happydude (Meath) - Posts: 234 - 19/01/2010 12:19:58    536855

Fair enough happydude,
Its a better looking panel now alright!

Whens the start of the Junior Championship does anyone know?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 19/01/2010 13:35:42    536966

If the two carry brothers can make it then Sean Mallon should deffinately be considered

BlackKettle (Meath) - Posts: 66 - 19/01/2010 14:48:05    537085

12 Royal impressed with your knowledge.. but as my message stated not one player apart from Richie Kealy has gone on to success with the senior team.. most of the names on the list have played only league and the rest have gathered up championship games against Roscommon,Leitrim,Limerick,Cavan,Fermanagh, Down etc.. all division 3 & 4 teams.

Please dont mention Moyles and Farrell as they have not brought any success to Meath. I will give u Bray and I like the look of Queeny but until Meath win a Leinster at the very least in a period when Leinster has been at it's poorest the junior team offers nothing in it's current status.

If you are good enough for senior squad you will not be using the junior team as a stepping stone.. without the junior team Moyles/Bray/Farrell/Queeny would have still made the senior team.

In it's current status waste of time and money and way better using this time and money with underage teams, senior squad etc.

Northmeathman (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 19/01/2010 18:21:56    537441

If Andrew McCann gets a transfer from Seneschalastown to Slane, is he eligible.
He'd certainly be good enough surely.

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 20/01/2010 19:40:43    538449

as i said last week, its the meath junior team, not the north meath junior team. happydude has a panel with three drumbaragh lads, two meath hill lads, ballivor lad and two kilmainham lads on the north meath panel and dont have a ratoath or dunsany player on it, despite tha fact that ratoath and dunsany have between them been in five of the last seven finals. all your north meath teams have one apearance between them in the last 12 years. make sense from that for me????? i know there are great players in north meath but please be realistic or just admit you dont know any south meath players.

e.nigma (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 20/01/2010 20:24:15    538517

Northmeathman - in one way I am surprised at your negativity towards the Meath Junior team. After all North Meath players have a long and proud history of representing Meath Junior teams. The first Meath Junior team I remember watching was the All-Ireland winning team of 88 which was backboned by four Oldcastle men with a scattering of others from that part of the county. And I have seen you mention on several occasions here the talent which exists at Junior and intermediate level which is not getting a look in on the Meath senior panel.
On the other hand I shouldnt be at all surprised as you seem to revel in constant negativity. If everyone on this site said someting was white, you would say it was black just to be awkward. The fact is that the Meath junior team is not meant to be a stepping stone to the senior panel. That is what Under-21 football is for. The Junior team exists to reward those players who plug away for years at the lower grades but who arent quite good enough to make the Senior grade. A while back there was a thread here about the great club players who werent good enough for the Meath seniors. Players like Declan Lynch, John McEnroe, Trevor Kane and Martin Kirk were mentioned. Fantastic club players who for a variety of reasons just didnt make it. I think it is fantastic that players like that are given the opportunity to represent their county at a suitable grade and over the years they have done us proud. It is a shame that a lot of counties dont participate in the Junior championship but that is their problem not ours. In recent years the All-Ireland club intermediate and junior championships have become more prominent reflecting the importance of these lower grade clubs to the GAA. I for one hope that the County Junior championships follow suit and offer an outlet for all club players to represent their county regardless of what grade they play at.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 21/01/2010 09:45:14    538637

Well said Little Man,it gives more players a chance to represent the county,and possibly improve their game.

lyoto.machida (Meath) - Posts: 343 - 21/01/2010 10:36:58    538665

e.nigma County: Meath Posts: 8 538517 as i said last week, its the meath junior team, not the north meath junior team. happydude has a panel with three drumbaragh lads, two meath hill lads, ballivor lad and two kilmainham lads on the north meath panel and dont have a ratoath or dunsany player on it, despite tha fact that ratoath and dunsany have between them been in five of the last seven finals. all your north meath teams have one apearance between them in the last 12 years. make sense from that for me????? i know there are great players in north meath but please be realistic or just admit you dont know any south meath players. E.nigma, Just a small point. The junior team is made up of players who havn't played senior the previous year, which includes Intermediate and junior. So one would think that the majority of players would be coming from intermediate, and since the majority of intermediate clubs are from north Meath it makes sense that the panel would be made up of mostly players from North meath. It is also worth noting that all the intermediate 1/4 finalists from '09 were North Meath teams. This is similar to the Senior panel, where majority pf players are from senior clubs. Don't get me wrong, the panel should have the best 25/30 players in the county (no matter where they're from) and I don't have anything against Junior football or south meath clubs - that's just the way I see it.

InTheLoop (Meath) - Posts: 147 - 21/01/2010 10:55:10    538683

Intermediate football in this county has a very poor standard. Most games are awful to watch. Oldcastle were a quality side but apart from them the rest were poor. Id nearly put money on longwood to win it as they may be the only decent team in it. So if imtermediate football is packed with north meath teams, north meath football is poor.

Meath2010 (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 21/01/2010 11:33:38    538719

A bold statement meath 2010, also a stupid one. Sure why don't we just swap all the inter and junior teams since inter is so poor. Two last teams to come up have done nothing special in intermediate and oldcastle were bet once in group stages and were ran close in the 1/4 and semi finals so they're a good team alright, but by no means the way ahead of the rest. Longwood might be the best team to come up in a while, but they won't win the intermediate

InTheLoop (Meath) - Posts: 147 - 21/01/2010 13:27:05    538881

The Meath Junior team should be used as a breeding ground for the senior team. I definately feel that about two thirds should be inter players and about one third junior players. Oldcastle as the best club side should make up around three or four players from it. The next ten should be senior players or ex senior players who played over the last four or five years for Meath such as cullinane, maguire scaldy, smoothy, McCullagh form Ratoath, Barry Lynch, basically anyone who has played for the seniors before. The remainder should be strictly young lads form the 21s who didn make the provisional senior squad. Everyone else should forget anout it. All your Drumbaragh, meath hill, drumcondrath club players and any senior club second team player should not be considered at all. The Oldcastle club is the best in bothe grades. The players form the last few years who have played senior even if its only league or o byrne cup have the experience and obviosuly the ability and the young lads just need a chance. Everybody else should...just...forget...about ...it.

QED

James T (Meath) - Posts: 611 - 21/01/2010 13:52:27    538918

InTheLoop
thats a fair point about the intermediate grade being primarily from north meath but i was just having a bit of a soff at the north meath players from terrible junior clubs being touted for the meath junior panel. but we both agree the best team should be picked without panel fillin or board members being kept happy. wat this ounty lacks in senior it has at the junior grade. you need only look at how successful our junior and inter champs are at leinster level to know we have the ability to win.

e.nigma (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 21/01/2010 14:48:18    538954

James T
County: Meath
Posts: 402

The Meath Junior team should be used as a breeding ground for the senior team. I definately feel that about two thirds should be inter players and about one third junior players. Oldcastle as the best club side should make up around three or four players from it. The next ten should be senior players or ex senior players who played over the last four or five years for Meath such as cullinane, maguire scaldy, smoothy, McCullagh form Ratoath, Barry Lynch, basically anyone who has played for the seniors before. The remainder should be strictly young lads form the 21s who didn make the provisional senior squad. Everyone else should forget anout it. All your Drumbaragh, meath hill, drumcondrath club players and any senior club second team player should not be considered at all. The Oldcastle club is the best in bothe grades. The players form the last few years who have played senior even if its only league or o byrne cup have the experience and obviosuly the ability and the young lads just need a chance. Everybody else should...just...forget...about ...it.

QED

Why should all the Drumbaragh, Meath Hill and Drumconrath players not be considered? If it because you have seen the individuals play and just of the opinion they are not good enough then thats fair enough. But I dont understand how an individual player doesnt deserve a chance just because his team hasnt won a championship.

happydude (Meath) - Posts: 234 - 21/01/2010 20:09:46    539405

An Fear beag, can you please explain how I'm being negative. I want to improve standards, not play journey men and average joes who want a meath jersey. The main objective of any county should be to improve standards.
If the guys u mention want rewards, the win county championships and leagues with there clubs, not waste time and money and even worse no chance of progressing to the senior team.

Again please explain how having an improved first team is negative, there are 20 subs wasting away on the senior panel who at time only train for 4 months and get no club games or county games so by using these lads in the reservers would only improve them and the 1st team.
Most of these subs are not u21 and would greatly improve there game.

Anything I say on this board is my opinion and it can be challenged but I always like to think it's to improve standards. Another suggestion for the journey men and average joe's would be to have amalgamated teams so we could improve their standards and club football standards.

Based on your arguement the whole point of the Junior team is to promote averageness, not a great way to look into the future of Meath gaa.
Jayus even Cavan dont have a junior team:)

Northmeathman (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 22/01/2010 12:48:29    539893

LOL I think you will find that Cavan do have a junior team. And they play in Leinster!!! But you are right NorthMeathMan. Some of the name s form some of these North Meath teams I havent even heard of. I would like to think that i have broad knowledge of the players across the grades and not just senior due to my club having a decent second team and the Fesi cup were we bump into the occasional Intermediate team. Mediocrity is prevelant in most of the panels named. A lot of the Sneior squad are undeniably going to be bench warmers and should be used. Likewise several Oldcastle players some under twenty ones to continue their developement and about ten ex players that have played senior at some stage. Maybe most of the list posted by enigma or who ever that was with Cullinane, Lynch and Regan. On another note the funniest thing i see posted is that the odd poster always tries to plug their goalkeeper to be included in the squad. It reminds me of the underage teams of ten or fifteen years ago where there would always be a sub gaolkeeper from some odd North meath club and lo and behold you would have a selector form the same club there too! Amongst about seven selectors i might add. Hmmmmm.

James T (Meath) - Posts: 611 - 22/01/2010 13:29:57    539940

James T.

Would have to disagree totally with you.

I would feel no ex senior lads should ever play on the Meath Junior side.

I do agree that it should be a breeding ground for our County Senior side so your point of playing players that have had there chance and are now either over the top or not good enough is not valid as this is now a way to breed players with our Senior Squad in mind.

No players from Senior clubs should be involved as for a start they are not eligible.

To say certian clubs should not included is unfair on the talented indivualds in any club.

I would go further and suggest that as many U-21s from Intermediate and Junior clubs as possible should be on this panel as really it is a Mickey Mouse competition with no real value other than to look for players for the future and should be used as so.

Havoc (Meath) - Posts: 296 - 22/01/2010 13:38:34    539952