Maybe this will help.

Would the Mayo side of 04-06 be in the top two or three teams of the decade? Would that Mayo side have beaten Derry, Down or Armagh, of the vintage mentioned?

Or Laois, another of my "pure" football favourites. Would that Laois team have beaten say Tohill's Derry?

The original post did pay tribute to Tyrone, but also stated that they had some very poor years losing to "also rans". the other three sides previewed only lost to proven winners.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 02/01/2010 22:16:32    523159

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523159 Maybe this will help.

Would the Mayo side of 04-06 be in the top two or three teams of the decade? Would that Mayo side have beaten Derry, Down or Armagh, of the vintage mentioned?

Or Laois, another of my "pure" football favourites. Would that Laois team have beaten say Tohill's Derry?

The original post did pay tribute to Tyrone, but also stated that they had some very poor years losing to "also rans". the other three sides previewed only lost to proven winners.

if we had played anybody but kerry i do believe we would have captured sam

GerryMc (Mayo) - Posts: 218 - 02/01/2010 22:22:16    523164

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523159 Maybe this will help.

Would the Mayo side of 04-06 be in the top two or three teams of the decade? Would that Mayo side have beaten Derry, Down or Armagh, of the vintage mentioned?

Or Laois, another of my "pure" football favourites. Would that Laois team have beaten say Tohill's Derry?

The original post did pay tribute to Tyrone, but also stated that they had some very poor years losing to "also rans". the other three sides previewed only lost to proven winners.


Totally different subject Patrique we werent talking about derry or mayo or laois, we were talking about what u say are completly different tyrone teams. You know for someone who sits on this forum and loves to tell other posters when they are wrong you seem to have a big problem admitting when you yourself are wrong???? also to answer your questions about mayo or laois beating down, tohills derry or armagh, Well a supposedly 1 man team ie tyrone in 95 and 96 beat derry, Fermangh beat armagh in the 04 quarter final when armagh were favourites for the all ireland and i seem 2 remember mayo then beat that fermanagh team so your argument is jus stupid. Another thing Tyrone also beat that Down team in the 1996 ulster final and in 1997 after a replay not bad for a 1 man team.

duke_raul (Tyrone) - Posts: 993 - 03/01/2010 13:55:15    523333

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, Well a supposedly 1 man team ie tyrone in 95 and 96


I was present at every championship game that team played and I can assure you that Ger Cavlan was not alone.

That team had a few others who could play.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 03/01/2010 14:42:07    523348

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523348 duke_raul
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, Well a supposedly 1 man team ie tyrone in 95 and 96


I was present at every championship game that team played and I can assure you that Ger Cavlan was not alone.

That team had a few others who could play.



I take it you meant u were at every game they played in the 1996 championship as he didnt play on the 95 team but he was a member of the panel.

Neway i will argue nomore as i have proved my point and you are incapable of admitting when you are wrong so long patrique old mucker.

duke_raul (Tyrone) - Posts: 993 - 03/01/2010 15:00:52    523360

Tyrone 2003

CrokeParkMan (Cavan) - Posts: 23 - 03/01/2010 15:32:25    523374

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I take it you meant u were at every game they played in the 1996 championship as he didnt play on the 95 team but he was a member of the panel.

Neway i will argue nomore as i have proved my point and you are incapable of admitting when you are wrong so long patrique old mucker.


A number of things here. As I was only at two football finas ever, yes, 1996 was the year. I drove the club bus to every game.

Secondly, what do you mean wrong? If I think Gerry McCrory was the greatest ever gaelic footballer, that is my opinion. It is not wrong, because no-one can prove whether he was or not.

Finally, I PROVED MY POINT. The point was when Loyal starts a nonsense like this he gets about 200 serious replies. I do not, and this thread actually has more merit than Loyal's wind ups.

So Loyal, I must hand it to you, you have the touch.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 03/01/2010 16:01:02    523400

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Sorry but you've lost me patrique, you say you were only ever at 2 football finals then you say 1996 was the year but tyrone didnt make the final that year. By the way you didnt prove any point old man you could'nt even reply 2 any points i made atall you just posted right back with your usual nonsense, neway i cant be bothered as nothing gets through 2 you.

duke_raul (Tyrone) - Posts: 993 - 03/01/2010 19:20:15    523544

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Finally, I PROVED MY POINT. The point was when Loyal starts a nonsense like this he gets about 200 serious replies. I do not, and this thread actually has more merit than Loyal's wind ups.

So Loyal, I must hand it to you, you have the touch.


I reproduced this for YOU Duke. Read it.

There is no easy way of saying this, the entire thread was a wind up, but with a bit more merit than Loyal. However if Loyal posts that Tyrone were the WORST team in Ulster over the last ten years he gets 200 replies. I am jealous.

PS: The sentence "It must have been 1996 as I have only been at 2 finals" CLEARLY implies that Tyrone were NOT in the final that year. It also implies it could not have been 1995 because Tyrone WERE in the final.

i was at the final in 1970 and 1991.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 03/01/2010 20:34:35    523595

The Derry team of 93, saw them twice in the flesh that year and they were a hell of a side, I thought they should have won more than one all Ireland though, I think if they had beaten Down in 94 they probably would have won back to back all Irelands.

REDROM (Offaly) - Posts: 208 - 03/01/2010 20:54:04    523611

Man, what a boring wind-up thread. The best team of the last 20 years is Tyrone as they have amassed the most Sams of any Ulster county in that time, and they did it in 6 years, end of story.

Honourable mentions for the great Down team of the early 1990s, Derry and Donegal from the same period and Armagh late 90's to 05.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1403 - 03/01/2010 21:19:21    523623

In one, though it rankles - TYRONE. Three Sam's in seven years would nearly pass as respectable in my home town.

Down 1991 to 94 were good & Armagh also excellent in the early noughties (even if possibly should have won one more), Derry also a good side & Monaghan were the perennial underachievers (always short a player or two to get them over the line), Fermanagh often flattered to deceive & caused the odd shock while Cavan were a one trick pony back in 1997. Donegal will always be hard grafters & tough as teak & Antrim had a few summer Sunday's last year.

Still for me Tyrone it is.

Would love another Kerry / Tyrone clash in 2010.

A great start to a new decade featuring the best (Ky) & second best (Ty) teams of the last decade!!!!! What a prospect.

dingle1 (Clare) - Posts: 805 - 04/01/2010 00:45:53    523743

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523623
Man, what a boring wind-up thread. The best team of the last 20 years is Tyrone as they have amassed the most Sams



What a disappointment.

TEAM, was the word we are looking for here, not county.

That is why we came up with distinct teams, give or take a few changes.

Otherwise the best team in Gaelic football between 1887 and 1997 was Kerry.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 04/01/2010 01:06:03    523749

tyrone down armagh derry donegal fermanagh monaghan antrim cavan in that order.

richiescats (USA) - Posts: 420 - 05/01/2010 01:22:01    524619

Tyrone-3 Sams only statistic that counts

kerrykerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1779 - 05/01/2010 12:26:54    524726

Patrique- Why the big '"dissapointed" focus on the word I chose- 'county?'

Tyrone is a county yes, but the group of players used to represent that county can be called a 'team', so if you prefer that I say Tyrone are the best Ulster team of the last 20 years, then that's what they are.

Give or take some minor changes in personnel, 3 All-Irelands in 6 years is better that any other Ulster team/county has managed. They have been brilliant in the way they have beaten Kerry, the standard-bearers, every time they have played them. All sufficient evidence for me I must say.

Now the only other way in which I might dissapoint you is if i should have called Crossmaglen Rangers the best 'team' of the last 20 years in Ulster, or are they a club... Aggh!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1403 - 05/01/2010 13:27:13    524775

Donegal_abroad County: Donegal Posts: 126 524775 Patrique- Why the big '"dissapointed" focus on the word I chose- 'county?' Tyrone is a county yes, but the group of players used to represent that county can be called a 'team', so if you prefer that I say Tyrone are the best Ulster team of the last 20 years, then that's what they are. How boring. Kerry are the best COUNTY ALWAYS, but for a bit of enlightened discussion was the 1984-86 team better than the 1929-32 team, or the 1978-82 team. So the question posed was which of 4 distinct TEAMS over the last 20 years was the best, not "who was the most successful county?" It helps if you know what the thread is about.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 05/01/2010 17:33:42    525057

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Now the only other way in which I might dissapoint you is if i should have called Crossmaglen Rangers the best 'team' of the last 20 years in Ulster, or are they a club... Aggh


Now that bit I like. But was the Cross team in 98/99 better than the team in 2007?

Aggghhhh. LOL

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 05/01/2010 17:37:50    525063

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522873
A ridiculous thread! Why 20 years? And not 25? Oh, yeah that would have brought in the 1986 Tyrone team. "Tyrone 2003-2007". And what about 2008? I for one am sick of such wind-ups on HS. And don't tell me I don't have to read them if I don't like them, as it's only by reading them that I actually discover that I've really wasted my time by doing so. So for 2010 if posters haven't anything worthwhile or constructive to contribute to a thread, then keep it zipped.


I agree wums have this board gone mad with threads like this.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 05/01/2010 17:56:01    525082

Patrique is just envious because every time he looks out over the Ligh he sees the townland of Ardboe where brave strong republican men parade round wearing their AI medals under the tricolour. Being from Antrim town he can't take that and it hurts. The good people of Toome and Creggan wouldnt begrudge us only a semi boy from Antrim town.

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 05/01/2010 18:29:03    525109