Was there any real need for this? I mean is it such a big issue? Is it another smoke screen to avoid the issue of professional fouls and dirty play that the GAA, now that they are cosy with the greedy unions, will be afraid to tackle?

Real Louth fan (Louth) - Posts: 3157 - 06/12/2009 11:17:21    504625

Makes no difference, the umpires never spot it anyway. Then again they are quite far away from the square

Mick14 (Limerick) - Posts: 766 - 06/12/2009 11:20:15    504628

Whatever about the square ball, i think the Aussie style mark would be a bad idea... any thoughts??

westerner (Sligo) - Posts: 192 - 06/12/2009 12:33:42    504670

The square ball is a silly rule anthow. No-one can ever judge it properly so most umpires & refs just guess.

The mark will encourage high catches & fielding. How often do you see a big athletic midfielder catching cleanly only to be swarmed by the opposition & unable to play the ball? This will give these players a chance to use catching skills.
Might take some of the negative & cynical play out of the game.

blu (Down) - Posts: 1240 - 06/12/2009 12:55:14    504692

I can see this being a disaster a little more thought needs to be put into it.

Firstly regarding the square ball rule you are gonna have players lobbing the ball in to a waiting congregation, the no of players in the square needs to be limited and/or extend the rule to the larger square.
The mark rule is a farce that will encourage ignormaus gulpins with no skill, no speed, and it will slow the game down. An added dimension is needed like the free kick has to be taken within 5 seconds and players dont have to retreat, but not block the free.
The penalty rule while alright in theroy is about helping teams with less skill, and besides a penalty is a guarented point the goal is an extra bonus for teams with good penalty kickers
The kickout rule seems fair enough

However I will be very interested in the details when they are released but I wouldnt hold my breath considering one of the names I seen thats in charge the rule change

omaghjoe (Tyrone) - Posts: 1191 - 06/12/2009 13:03:55    504708

It's the only protection a goalkeeper can get. If you dont have it what can a keeper do about a high ball.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 06/12/2009 13:07:06    504712

All of these proposed rule changes are ridiculous and totally unnecessary. The square-ball rule is there for a reason; to stop people lobbing balls in and charging at the goalkeeper when they are not going for the ball at all. There is no problem with kicking balls from the small square and the 21 at the moment, taking all kick-outs from the 13 metre line will just slow the game down even more because if a team hits four or five wides in a row the keeper has to go out to the 13 metre line every time rather than just take the kick from the small square which is right beside him. This rule will will definately result in way more time-wasting occurring at the end of games.

Briardrog (Meath) - Posts: 62 - 06/12/2009 13:15:34    504726

I think I will wait til the proposed changes are announced b4 debating them,although I would be completely be against the mark.

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 06/12/2009 17:42:03    505021

Omaghjoe,

That is a bad slant at your neighbouring parish. Is their something from your school days you want to tell us about?

26plus6equals1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 430 - 06/12/2009 17:51:33    505030

What a difference it made today in the Kerin O'Rahillys game today.

Galway11 (Galway) - Posts: 570 - 06/12/2009 17:58:49    505040

Mick14
County: Limerick
Posts: 571

504628
Makes no difference, the umpires never spot it anyway. Then again they are quite far away from the square


Umpires can't call a square ball. That is the function of the referee..

donkeyford (Limerick) - Posts: 119 - 06/12/2009 18:04:53    505054

Pinkie:

You can't touch the goalkeeper in the square so he's still protected. Unless they propose to change that rule too.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13792 - 06/12/2009 18:32:41    505101

Instead of constantly tinkering with the rules maybe the GAA should try to get referees to consistently enforce the rules that already exist. Players are always getting away with pulling and dragging and over-carrying as it is.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 1032 - 06/12/2009 19:44:04    505207

Only the ref can call on a Square ball. The Umpires don't have anything to do with it.

galwayfan (None) - Posts: 764 - 06/12/2009 20:29:36    505262

omaghjoe County: Tyrone Posts: 878 504708 I can see this being a disaster a little more thought needs to be put into it. Firstly regarding the square ball rule you are gonna have players lobbing the ball in to a waiting congregation, the no of players in the square needs to be limited and/or extend the rule to the larger square. The mark rule is a farce that will encourage ignormaus gulpins with no skill, no speed, and it will slow the game down. An added dimension is needed like the free kick has to be taken within 5 seconds and players dont have to retreat, but not block the free. The penalty rule while alright in theroy is about helping teams with less skill, and besides a penalty is a guarented point the goal is an extra bonus for teams with good penalty kickers The kickout rule seems fair enough However I will be very interested in the details when they are released but I wouldnt hold my breath considering one of the names I seen thats in charge the rule change

trileacman (Tyrone) - Posts: 759 - 06/12/2009 20:33:48    505263

omaghjoe
County: Tyrone
Posts: 878

504708
I can see this being a disaster a little more thought needs to be put into it.

Firstly regarding the square ball rule you are gonna have players lobbing the ball in to a waiting congregation, the no of players in the square needs to be limited and/or extend the rule to the larger square.
The mark rule is a farce that will encourage ignormaus gulpins with no skill, no speed, and it will slow the game down. An added dimension is needed like the free kick has to be taken within 5 seconds and players dont have to retreat, but not block the free.
The penalty rule while alright in theroy is about helping teams with less skill, and besides a penalty is a guarented point the goal is an extra bonus for teams with good penalty kickers
The kickout rule seems fair enough

However I will be very interested in the details when they are released but I wouldnt hold my breath considering one of the names I seen thats in charge the rule change
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trileacman (Tyrone) - Posts: 759 - 06/12/2009 20:34:16    505264

It will be a disaster indeed and just lump ball in and half the field will wait for it in there . No for me.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 06/12/2009 21:22:41    505308

26plus6

LOL
Well spotted I think we all have our own story to tell about yer man but sure we will say nothing

Also Technically if I was in Omagh/Drumragh parish that would actually be in the same parish but I am actually in a neighbouring parish so...do I know you?

omaghjoe (Tyrone) - Posts: 1191 - 06/12/2009 21:47:13    505355

Omaghjoe,

No you don't know me. I know the fella you are talking about. Prob taught at some stage and managed you. Just thought it was a cheap shot.

26plus6equals1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 430 - 06/12/2009 22:20:34    505399

The square ball rule had to be changed because it was virtually impossible to enforce, how can you watch two things at once? It needed to be changed either to the current proposal of not in before the ball is kicked, or else not allowed in the 6 at all! I'm a keeper and I'm all for this, now at least I know there will be no chance of a square ball being called so I have to either win it, or not come at all.

Kicking from the 13 all the time, a better Idea I think, how often at club level do you see the goalkeeper have to trot out to the 20 to get the kicking tee before going back in to the 6 to kick the ball? Also allows much more options for goalkeepers as they can kick from the center of the goal. Although I have a short run up, its tough to kick from the center of the 6 as usually there's a big hole in the middle of most goal mouths.

GaaFan86 (Wicklow) - Posts: 11 - 06/12/2009 23:17:25    505461