Mulligan Eamonn

Maybe I'm being pedantic here, but your understanding of the meaning of the word is a bit misguided.

Racism is negative discrimination on the grounds of race. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of the definition of a word. If you have trouble with this perhaps consult a dictionary and it will clear things up. Explain to me again what special or specific race CheFinny has targetted?

The word racist has a certain stigma to it (and rightly so). Bandying it about when it doesn't apply can take away from the stigma of the word, and eventually result in the word seeming less serious when applied to someone who actually is being racist.

Being snobbish, elitist or whatever else is discriminatory, not racist. It may be equally deplorable, but it's still not racism.

black&white (Sligo) - Posts: 1628 - 10/12/2009 19:25:39    510092

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510061 The universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Article 1. " All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood."

Enough said !!


Well said especially considering it fully supports my earlier point which the 'class warrier' young Mulligan had so much issue with earlier. The jist of my argument is that it doesnt matter where you are from. I'd rather be surrounded by people born outside the Island of Ireland or have roots from outside Ireland than work shy people that have never worked nor are prepared to work a day in their lives even if this people were fortunate enough to be born Irish. If this makes me a racist so be it but i really don't suspect it does. As for being a snob i'll have none of that i have nothing wrong with working class people i am one myself what i do have a problem with is people that are not prepared to work. Actions should speak louder than nationality or colour.

Racism and Xenophobia in Ireland are becoming a cancer and should be stamped out.

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 10/12/2009 19:52:14    510117

CheFinny County: UK Posts: 646 Well said especially considering it fully supports my earlier point which the 'class warrier' young Mulligan had so much issue with earlier. The jist of my argument is that it doesnt matter where you are from. I'd rather be surrounded by people born outside the Island of Ireland or have roots from outside Ireland than work shy people that have never worked nor are prepared to work a day in their lives even if this people were fortunate enough to be born Irish. If this makes me a racist so be it but i really don't suspect it does. As for being a snob i'll have none of that i have nothing wrong with working class people i am one myself what i do have a problem with is people that are not prepared to work. Actions should speak louder than nationality or colour. Racism and Xenophobia in Ireland are becoming a cancer and should be stamped out. Is being work-shy and backward exclusive to Irish people?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12291 - 11/12/2009 12:06:20    510675

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510675 CheFinny
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Well said especially considering it fully supports my earlier point which the 'class warrier' young Mulligan had so much issue with earlier. The jist of my argument is that it doesnt matter where you are from. I'd rather be surrounded by people born outside the Island of Ireland or have roots from outside Ireland than work shy people that have never worked nor are prepared to work a day in their lives even if this people were fortunate enough to be born Irish. If this makes me a racist so be it but i really don't suspect it does. As for being a snob i'll have none of that i have nothing wrong with working class people i am one myself what i do have a problem with is people that are not prepared to work. Actions should speak louder than nationality or colour.

Racism and Xenophobia in Ireland are becoming a cancer and should be stamped out.

Is being work-shy and backward exclusive to Irish people?

Sorry Chefinny, complete comprehension fail from me. I didn't even read the part i bolded properly. Sorry about that!

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12291 - 11/12/2009 12:26:07    510702

Re black&white,
We can sit here all night and argue what the word racism means, now you have your opinion on what it means and i will have mine and no matter what it says in any dictionary let it be a English one or Irish one i will stick to the dictionary of life which has carried through this last 50 odd years.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 12/12/2009 15:04:31    511837

Mulligan Eamonn County: All Posts: 307 511837 Re black&white, We can sit here all night and argue what the word racism means, now you have your opinion on what it means and i will have mine and no matter what it says in any dictionary let it be a English one or Irish one i will stick to the dictionary of life which has carried through this last 50 odd years. Youre still a wee racist though. AFA

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 13/12/2009 11:46:33    512329

ReCheFinny,
Maybe your right i might be a little racist i will leave that up to your own opinion but having lived in England for maybe 30 odd years i have seen and have been on the receiving end of racism so i think i know what i am talking about. How times and attitudes have changed in the last 10-15 years we the Irish people are no longer top of the hate list, that belongs now to the people of the Middle East,India,Pakistan and followers of the Islam faith some who were quick enough to hop on the English bandwagon against us in years gone by. Now i am not saying its right but you know the old saying a change is as good as a rest and it takes a long time to forgive maybe not in your eyes seeing you are a goody good shoes and a paid up member of the PC brigade.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 13/12/2009 13:55:11    512377

Sport Against Racism Ireland DVD Launch GAA stars and aspiring young gaels from Ulster were brought together back in March to take-part in filming for a United Through Sport DVD. Sport Against Racism Ireland supports and promotes social inclusion and positive integration through sport. It does this by bringing together people from different cultures and backgrounds in sporting and cultural events. It helps to create opportunities for young people to participate in social integration projects both at home and abroad. This helps to promote intercultural dialogue and celebrate cultural diversity through projects, particularly in schools. Given the impact of its projects, the charity now holds considerable clout in encouraging government agencies and national sports bodies to adopt anti-racism measures in their policies and practices. It is from this perspective that Ulster GAA have supported the project. High-profile players and managers, as well as aspiring young athletes represented Ulster GAA in the making of promotional DVD. Players included: Peter Canavan, Diarmaid Marsden, Ryan Mellon, Tony Scullion, Martin Mc Grath, Ronan Clarke, Fiona Shannon and Jane Adams. Mickey Harte and Terence McNaughton also weighed-in behind the project to take-part in the day of filming. Children from St Malachys Primary School in Armagh were asked questions about their favourite sport, their sporting idols and so on, and also had a chance to meet their sporting heroes Peter Canavan and Martin McGrath. On Thursday 26th November an array of participants featured in the DVD were invited to the launch of the United Through Sport DVD in Belfast Castle. Many other sports were represented with the likes of former Republic of Ireland manager Brian Kerr, former Lions and Ireland player Trevor Ringland and boxing ace Martin Rogan in attendance. Our GAA representatives, Peter Canavan and Mickey Harte were there to show their support to the campaign. The picture that goes with this features canavan and Harte, Dell and dell's heroes. Or maybe ex heroes now.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 18/12/2009 01:20:23    517249

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506715 Has anybody EVER admitted to being racist, it's alaways dressed up as something else


I'm kinda racist but aren't we all a bit really, just because you don't say your thoughts out loud, it doesn't mean that they didn't happen...........I'm sure you all laugh at plenty of racist jokes fron texts as well as me.

Cranky360 (Mayo) - Posts: 834 - 18/12/2009 16:00:04    517750

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517750 dhorse
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506715 Has anybody EVER admitted to being racist, it's alaways dressed up as something else


I'm kinda racist but aren't we all a bit really, just because you don't say your thoughts out loud, it doesn't mean that they didn't happen...........I'm sure you all laugh at plenty of racist jokes fron texts as well as me.

Probably a lot of truth in that. However i was thinking more on the lines of when somebody is going to propose something on racist lines they generally start with "I'm not racist or anything like that but............

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 18/12/2009 18:49:32    517921

theres nothin wrong with admitting your racist sometimes maybe we all think our nation/race/breed is superior, maybe sometimes we think were smarter and better than everyone else in the world, thats the problem with ego. it takes bravery and honesty to recognise that you have been wrong in your thoughts. it also takes bravery and honesty to stop idle rumours and falsehoods get out of hand where they can turn nasty very quickly ending up in minorities getting targeted.

stranmillis29 (Antrim) - Posts: 788 - 18/12/2009 19:35:57    517954