I just read about 5 posts on the "Social Welfare Fraud" thread and was horrified. Downright naked racism and National Socialism, . Attacks on IMMIGRANTS from people who will probably visit their immigrant relations in Australia, US of A and England. From a nation who suffered mass emigration due to disastrous economic policies from 1920 to 1960, and is now doing so again. Not to mention the "Famine" in the 19th century. Makes you absolutely ashamed to call yourself Irish.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 04/12/2009 19:07:50    503288

Well are you saying that we were welcomed in to aussieland us and gb far from it. Up in antrim you might'nt hav it as bad as down here. A lad near my house was beaten up and murdered by members of this foreign national group. Left 3 young kids bereaved of a father for the rest of their lives.

I know this is only a minority of this race but face this fact patrique

gaamad1996 (Wexford) - Posts: 439 - 04/12/2009 21:11:53    503448

I know the incident you are referring to gaamad1996, a terrible crime and those involved should be locked up for life. But the fact that they were eastern European immigrants does not mean that all immigrants act in this way. You even awknowledge this when you say "I know this is only a minority of this race". Is there not a minority of our own race who commit similar henious crimes?

Patrique I agree with you completely on this, the amount of racist, xenophobic, sectarian, bigoted posters on HS is disgusting.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 04/12/2009 21:27:52    503478

Tis a terra.

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 04/12/2009 21:28:27    503481

patrique i do not agree with racism if u had read my post u would have seen .

but your post leave alot 2 be desired, blatant attacks on northen counties, telling people they should hop across the border,

pratice what u preach mate

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 04/12/2009 21:33:06    503490

Pratice what you preach you insulted me and my country.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 04/12/2009 21:36:28    503498

put the kettle on , milk 2 sugars

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 04/12/2009 22:05:20    503546

Damm have to pop out for milk .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 04/12/2009 22:46:20    503583

patrique County: Antrim Posts: 5928 503288 I just read about 5 posts on the "Social Welfare Fraud" thread and was horrified. Downright naked racism and National Socialism, . Attacks on IMMIGRANTS from people who will probably visit their immigrant relations in Australia, US of A and England. From a nation who suffered mass emigration due to disastrous economic policies from 1920 to 1960, and is now doing so again. Not to mention the "Famine" in the 19th century. Makes you absolutely ashamed to call yourself Irish. I completely agree. The Polish came here and took the jobs Irish people saw as below them. The amount of Irish people I know that are scabbing off the dole. People who are basically Career Claimers, many with extra and illegal sources of income. If I had one criticsism of the Polish it would be that they did not make a big enough effort to get over the language barrier but that is easier said then done. Who are we to be giving out about foreigners when our best and brightest J1 student routinely have to be peeled off beaches in Bondi, have drunk and swimming/drowning. The Aussies have a programme about us called Bondi Beach Rescue.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 04/12/2009 23:11:19    503614

patrique totally agree with you on this one here. if some of these lads had a brain they'd be dangerous lol

stranmillis29 (Antrim) - Posts: 788 - 04/12/2009 23:13:24    503617

Got milk and few pasties here lads .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 04/12/2009 23:37:14    503652

I will entertain with my beautiful voice :P

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 04/12/2009 23:53:28    503666

good on ye orlaith, i will get the kettle on , get out the biscuit tin and we will have a sing song

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 05/12/2009 00:10:57    503679

Patrique

as Charlize Theron said today ''no comment will say it all''

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 05/12/2009 00:32:34    503701

dell the biscuit tin is empty

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 05/12/2009 00:33:33    503702

Completely agree Patrique and the worst thing is they don't even seem to notice they are doing it.

Sisco87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 759 - 05/12/2009 01:47:02    503740

patrique I have to disagree with you. Its very easy for people to sit back and shout "Racist" at the first sign of race being mentioned in a discussion. Yes the Irish immigrated in their thousands and now we should accept people coming here. BUT. The Irish were treated like dirt a lot of the time. "No dogs and no Irish" Sound familiar? Also the Irish went and worked, im not saying they should be applauded for this but the simple fact was they had to, there was no social welfare and nothing for them rely on if they couldnt find employment. Have the foreign workers in Ireland suffered these problems to the same extent? No.. And thankfully so, it seems we aren't as hypocritical as you make out. Recent years has seen the introduction of numerous equality acts. Our elected legislature it seems are not racist either. Now we come to the sticky part of the argument. EU law demands that any EU citizen can claim unemployment benefit in any country as long as they are a resident there. A person from Poland (for example) can make more money here on job seekers benefit than they can working in their native country. I dont agree with this at all. Jobs in Ireland are hard enough to come by, yet we may still have EU citizens coming to Ireland to get social welfare because of the extremely high amount they would recieve for an unlimited time. I believe it is a person's own government that should be responsible for providing for them while they cannot find employment. Contrary to the single EU market policy? Possibly.. But i believe a time limit should be imposed.

Inactive x5 (Cavan) - Posts: 1452 - 05/12/2009 03:51:14    503753

silly post patrique - the countries mentioned in your opening post USA and australia have probably the strictest immigration policies in the world.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 05/12/2009 10:15:31    503782

Good post JonSmith: fair and to the point. Now lets just waiting for the stereotype of the year.......

Mick14 (Limerick) - Posts: 766 - 05/12/2009 10:49:14    503798

Roundball - Who are we to be giving out about foreigners when our best and brightest J1 student routinely have to be peeled off beaches in Bondi, have drunk and swimming/drowning. The Aussies have a programme about us called Bondi Beach Rescue.

hard to know whwre to start with this, the J1 student programme is with America not australia, Bondi Beach Rescue is a show about life guards on Bondi (including Sam from home & away) not about the irish, stop bowing your head.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 05/12/2009 11:02:27    503815