It has been put to me by a Clontibret man that if ALL junior clubs joined together they would have no chance of beating Clontibret! I think this is pure ignorence on behalf of him as he has only seen one junior match this year, Woud like to hear your opinion on this and if there was a amalgamation of junior who would make it nd wat would be ur team??

big30 (Monaghan) - Posts: 30 - 01/12/2009 11:43:24    499277

He could have a point but anyway the junior team would be:
GK:Gerard Mc Caffrey emyvale
RCB:Steven McBride (Oram)
FB:Conor Mc Caffrey currin
LCB:Danny Rooney Clones
RHB:Finton Kelly clones
CHB:Brendan Askin Emyvale
LHB: Alan Lambe (Toome)
M:Peter Dooley killany
M:benny mc kenna emyvale
RHF:dick clerkin currin
CHF:Colm Connolly clones
LHF:Damien Larkin seans
RCF: darren freeman clones
FF:declan mc kieran clones
LCF:jp mone oram

DACLUBMAN (Monaghan) - Posts: 82 - 01/12/2009 13:15:32    499378

Daclubman, every club in the county has players missing through injury, travels, work commitments or just losing child prodigys to other walks of life so it is impossible to come out with a team of "what if's" that would/could be senior when every other club is in the same boat.....
By the way a lot of clones men on your team (5 i think) even though ye didn even make a final this year and only 3 emyvale who won the champ, very surprising selections although maybe not from a clones man....Must say yourself and star10 are great Clones supporters who Im sure will continue to be very narrow minded for years to come.

statattack (Monaghan) - Posts: 19 - 01/12/2009 15:36:11    499522

big30
County: Monaghan
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It has been put to me by a clontibret man that if ALL juniour clubs joined together they would have no chance of beating clontibret! I think this is pure ignorence on behalf of him as he has onli seen one junior match this year, Woud like to hear your opinion on this and if there was a amalgamation of junior who would make it nd wat would be ur team??


big30, you say that this is pure ignorence from the Clontibret man. I would call it sense. Going by the junior selection posted above i dont think that they would stand much chance against Clontibret who have far more experience and far more talent than the players mentioned!!!

boc1595 (Monaghan) - Posts: 71 - 01/12/2009 18:06:46    499719

i agree,that team would get destroyed by intermediate teams let alone senior champs. much better selection in my opinion would be
1)emyvales keeper....dunno the name
2)mcelvaney seans
3)mccaffery currin
4)flannery emyvale
5)f.o'callaghan currin
6)s. lambe toome
7)holland clones
8)clerkin currin
9)mckenna emyvale
10)connolly clones
11)p. kierans seans
12)g. o'callaghan currin
13)larkin seans
14)flanagan toome
15)treanor seans

think this would be a very tough team to play against with some serious forwards.any dissenters

dbiglad (Monaghan) - Posts: 17 - 01/12/2009 18:57:13    499792

big30 its not ignorance its common sense. i also think that the majority of other people in the county would agree with him.
apart from the likes of dick clerkin and possibly two or three more, would be lucky to get a startin place on the likes of clontibret, balney, latton, maracloone or scotstown

gggg (Monaghan) - Posts: 225 - 01/12/2009 21:28:11    499990

gggg ..2 or 3 players from the entire junior division not even getting on one of top 5 teams in the county. what a load of rubbish.

demondrive (Monaghan) - Posts: 79 - 01/12/2009 21:59:18    500029

What a snobby thread this is. Well i kno for sure that junior would win hands down in a fight.

I think Clontibret should focus more at pitting their wits against ulster's finest and stop being cocky in Monaghan. Well beat by ANTRIMS champions, a let down to the county once again.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 01/12/2009 22:43:23    500087

Brolly, Clontibret were well beat in ulster but id hardly say they were a let down for the county. In ulster you have to going in with no injuries and your best team out and that certainly was not the case for Clontibret this year in Ulster. They had at least four players with injuries including one with a broken wrist!!

boc1595 (Monaghan) - Posts: 71 - 02/12/2009 15:04:29    500659

big30 its just the opinion of one clontibret person. its not right to go and put all of clontibret under a bad light.
and to answer your question, yes i do think that clontibret would beat all of junior joint up and i would answer the same way if you had of mentioned blaney, scotstown, latton, maracloone or carrick instead of clontibret.
and whoever it was that said clontibret were well beat in ulster is simply jealous of what clontibret have done this year. yes they did get beat by 10 points against st.galls who are a very stong team but sure didnt the galls beat loup by 11 points in the final and im sure nobody in derry is saying that loup were poor representatives of the county in ulster. so go away and dry your eyes

gggg (Monaghan) - Posts: 225 - 02/12/2009 17:00:22    500816

brolly whats your club?....

postmanjim (Monaghan) - Posts: 26 - 02/12/2009 17:09:40    500824

dbiglad
declan mckiernan must be full forward he,s been scoreing for fun for 22 years.

edd1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 35 - 02/12/2009 21:30:36    501266

what a load of rubbish. every club in juniour has at least one player who would be well capable to play senior football but choose to play with the club they grew up with. A lot has even played county football. they may not look as good because the football is not as high of quality any maybe the players around them are not of as high of quality. take the killanny juniour team for example . Eamon hoey , Adrian campbell and peter Dooley all played minor and u21 county football and andy mcelroy played senior football in Louth. That is just one club. im sure every club has the same . for example flanagan and lambe of toome are good enough for any senior team, as is freeman of clones and dick clerkin. The team chemistry might not be up to scratch to play clontibrib but a juniour selection would put it up to them.

killanny09 (Monaghan) - Posts: 94 - 02/12/2009 21:44:33    501289

We can,t get freeman to play for his own club.

edd1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 35 - 02/12/2009 22:21:27    501381

Freeman is injured and has been for awile. serious groin injury.

MickeyJoe01 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1 - 02/12/2009 23:02:20    501461

I actually agree wi Killany09 for once, ov course d chemistry wuldnt be ryt but in theory they wuld put it up to them, and as for gggg.. i didnt put all of clontibrit in a bad lyt i simply mentioned one man from dat club.

big30 (Monaghan) - Posts: 30 - 02/12/2009 23:42:51    501515

I can't believe what I am reading here. Let's be under no illusions here, junior football is the lowest and most farcical type of football imaginable. I nearly threw the computer out the window when I seen some of the names and clubs mentioned. I will admit that the junior grade players don't lack effort or heart but when it comes to the basics of the game such as catching and kicking they are generally poor which after all is why they are junior.

Albert (None) - Posts: 30 - 03/12/2009 11:04:56    501736

Silly comment! You honestly suggest that there is not even one player on the majority af junior teams that wuldnt walk onto a senior team??? And to say junior players cant catch or kick backs up my point!

big30 (Monaghan) - Posts: 30 - 03/12/2009 14:00:49    501889

Big30 i dont think he was being ignorent, i think he wz just stating the facts.. The diference in quality between Junior and Senior sides is massive. i dont mean to disrespect any players from junior clubs but even the best players in junior clubs can only reach a certain potential because of the quality around them compared to playing senior football. And who on earth thinks that Benny McKenna and Dick Clerkin would put it upto the likes of Vinny Corey or J.P Mone in the middle of the field..not ta mention any of the other head to heads around the field.. Stick at the football lads!!

cluiche09 (Monaghan) - Posts: 5 - 03/12/2009 14:32:23    501924

rite lets sort this problem out for once and for all.
lets take clontibret for example since this argument was started about them. ok so demon drive, killany09 and all the rest of that group, take THIS clontibret team and replace any of the 15 players with junior players who you believe to be better
here is the clontibret team and the one player i feel capable of getting a starting place

1: Paul McElroy
2: Eoin Greenan
3: Colum Greenan
4: Colin Duffy
5: Darach Mooney(replaced by dick clerkin)
6: Dessie Mone
7: Martin Corey
8: Vinnie Corey
9: JP Mone
10: John Golden
11: Paul McGuigan
12: Rodney Gorman
13: Fergal Mone
14: Brendan OgMaginnis
15: Conor McManus

* and when naming your teams please use common sense and remember that just because a player is great at junior level does not mean they can have the same effect at senior level

gggg (Monaghan) - Posts: 225 - 03/12/2009 17:14:38    502076