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Wolfe Tones v Dubliners

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millhouse
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patrique, your a legand.



With a sheepish look at the ground, and looking suitably humble, all I can say is "I know".

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 24/11/2009 19:43:31    493122

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chainsaw
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Excuse my ignorance but a " Morris dancer"



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That's me, front row in the black coat.

Those were the days.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 24/11/2009 19:45:24    493127

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Yeah right .......

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/11/2009 20:40:17    493173

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Class act Mick McGoldrick patrique. You must know his mate Dezzi Donnelly, he can play a mean fiddle. Give me Dezzie in front of Gavin any day.
You must know John Joe Kelly also, another class act on the bodhran. Some fine trad musicians have come out of Manchester in recent times.


I know all of those Manc musicians and I am always saying if I had stayed in Manchester you would never have heard of John Joe. LOL.

An old friend from Manchester now has a house in Mayo where I holiday and many of the old crowd turn up in the summer.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 24/11/2009 20:59:43    493196

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patrique
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I know all of those Manc musicians and I am always saying if I had stayed in Manchester you would never have heard of John Joe. LOL.

An old friend from Manchester now has a house in Mayo where I holiday and many of the old crowd turn up in the summer.

I'm over in Mayo every summer with the kids my dads got a place there. You never know our paths may cross there or in Manchester one of these days.

Mancirish (UK) - Posts: 2200 - 24/11/2009 23:53:56    493366

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Anyone able to help me on the " Another Feast Of Irish Folk " thing?

kingpuck71 (Derry) - Posts: 691 - 25/11/2009 10:03:25    493474

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As musicians in the strictest sense the Dubliners would be better , although Tommy Byrne from the Tones has a fantastic voice. I like both groups and I've been well known to lash out a few rebel songs when I've a few on me.

dubupnorth (Dublin) - Posts: 1897 - 25/11/2009 15:13:58    493747

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493747 As musicians in the strictest sense the Dubliners would be better , although Tommy Byrne from the Tones has a fantastic voice. I like both groups and I've been well known to lash out a few rebel songs when I've a few on me.


I met a man Dub on a building site one time who told me he was singing that night in the local pub I asked him what sort of songs did he sing ....first he said "I gives a pop song and then I gives a balla" well in my opinion its hard to beat the Dubs when it comes to giving a "balla"

chainsaw (Laois) - Posts: 712 - 25/11/2009 16:19:12    493831

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24/11/2009 23:53:56
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I'm over in Mayo every summer with the kids my dads got a place there. You never know our paths may cross there or in Manchester one of these days.


Louisburgh is the spot.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 25/11/2009 23:04:16    494319

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kingpuck71
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Anyone able to help me on the " Another Feast Of Irish Folk " thing?


Google it, a whole load of stuff there.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 25/11/2009 23:08:32    494324

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Ridiculous thread title becasue there is no comparison anyone who says the Wolfe TOnes are better than the Dubliners needs their heads examined. The Dubliners had two of the greatest musicians Ireland ever produed in any genre with Barney McKenna and Luke Kelly. I heard Philip King introduce a vocal by Luke on his show one night and it could only describing one person "I put this record on during the week and its a while since i heard it and the voice took me my surprise; such power, conviction, energy and confidence from the voice it really grabs you when you hear it" Four adjectives that totally sumup the voice of Luke Kelly but of course nothing beats actually listening to it. Barney McKEnna is a genuis on the tenor banjo, his solos and backing are like a song wihtin a song amazing. The Dubliners perfected Irish folk songs to a level that will never be equalled, the groundbreaking achievments is amazing, Irish folkmusic before them was practially non existant. The Wolfe Tones aren't great to be honest, dont get me wrong they are ok for a few tunes but they arent anything better than you would hear down the local on a Saturday night. To comapre them with the Dubliners is nothing short of shear Lunacy and anyone who prefers them to the Dubliners either knows nothing about music or is letting politics judge their musical taste.

omaghjoe (Tyrone) - Posts: 1191 - 26/11/2009 00:40:36    494430

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Do you really think some on here, to quote Jack Nicholson, "can handle the truth"?

But what you say is very true, alas.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 26/11/2009 21:02:47    495399

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i love raglan rd

leroy (UK) - Posts: 223 - 26/11/2009 21:06:21    495406

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25/11/2009 23:08:32
patrique
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kingpuck71
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Anyone able to help me on the " Another Feast Of Irish Folk " thing?


Google it, a whole load of stuff there.

At $85.00 no thanks, but i've managed to purchase one today on eBay for £4.99. Only problem i have now is i don't have a turntable to play it on. Friend of mine tells me there are people about now who can transform your vinyls into cd's. What an amazing world we live in. Am i too old for all this or what?

kingpuck71 (Derry) - Posts: 691 - 27/11/2009 00:08:55    495720

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kingpuck71
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patrique
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kingpuck71
County: Derry
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Anyone able to help me on the " Another Feast Of Irish Folk " thing?


Google it, a whole load of stuff there.

At $85.00 no thanks, but i've managed to purchase one today on eBay for £4.99. Only problem i have now is i don't have a turntable to play it on


I have a spare turntable, for $85.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 27/11/2009 00:39:38    495744

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I have two views on the Wolfe Tones. I used to think they were exploiting the troubles for their own financial gain. But loking looking back on it despite some of the comments here they were good singers and musicians and I wonder would they have been bigger commercially if they didn't sign overtly nationalist songs. I don't think it's fair to describe them as sectarian but they certainly would have that type of following in Glasgow. But during a period when the media and policiians where whitewashing Irish history they wrote some great songs along with a few naughty numbers including Admiral William Brown during the Malvinas War.
They are of course not a patch on the Dubliners but hey lads don't be so hard on them. Let the people sing.

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 27/11/2009 08:00:36    495790

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Wolfe Tones v Dubliners, does anyone know where and when this is taking place?

Lebowski (Meath) - Posts: 363 - 27/11/2009 11:00:31    495882

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Lebowski
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495882 Wolfe Tones v Dubliners, does anyone know where and when this is taking place?
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Croke park of course, date to finalised.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 27/11/2009 13:49:19    496040

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27/11/2009 00:39:38
patrique
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kingpuck71
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patrique
County: Antrim
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kingpuck71
County: Derry
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Anyone able to help me on the " Another Feast Of Irish Folk " thing?


Google it, a whole load of stuff there.

At $85.00 no thanks, but i've managed to purchase one today on eBay for £4.99. Only problem i have now is i don't have a turntable to play it on


I have a spare turntable, for $85.

will you take 10 punts for it???

kingpuck71 (Derry) - Posts: 691 - 27/11/2009 22:21:31    496577

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kingpuck71
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patrique
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kingpuck71
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will you take 10 punts for it???


Is that those things they use in Venice? I suppose you could find a use for them on the Lough.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 28/11/2009 00:45:36    496664

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