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beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 22/11/2009 21:31:21    491237

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I have to say that i enjoy the music of both bands but the Tones just shade it for me. I was reared on a diet on Wolfe Tones music in my younger days and I suppose as a republican they lifted the moral at times. Forgetting to turn down the music in the car at a checkpoint usually resulted in you being held at the roadside for at least the next hour and a half, maybe more. They just didn't seem to appreciate that some said the divil was dead and buried in Killarney.......

mugsys_barber (Tyrone) - Posts: 2160 - 22/11/2009 21:50:43    491263

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The Wolfe Tones only appeal to brit hating, rapid republicans, whereas the Dubliners are a proper Irish folk band

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 22/11/2009 22:00:20    491272

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Dubliners.A class of their own.

conor15 (None) - Posts: 347 - 22/11/2009 22:06:09    491277

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22/11/2009 19:44:07
patrique
County: Antrim
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I played folk music all over England, and a fair bit of N.Ireland, and Kelly, and the Dubliners, were legends.


Is there anything you haven't done?

kingpuck71 (Derry) - Posts: 691 - 22/11/2009 22:24:16    491299

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Patrique,

A statue, commemmorative medal, bursary or mentioned in despatches? How would you like your Kerry like followers to remember your greatness? The Sam 'Patrique' Maguire Cup maybe? You really do love all this fawning don't you?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 23/11/2009 00:27:24    491400

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22/11/2009 19:44:07
patrique
County: Antrim
Posts: 5647


I played folk music all over England, and a fair bit of N.Ireland, and Kelly, and the Dubliners, were legends.


Well your some tell tail ..............

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/11/2009 00:58:26    491412

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gilly2308
County: Galway
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The Wolfe Tones only appeal to brit hating, rapid republicans,



No. The Tones appeal to Johnny Come Lately gosh am I Irish types who then think, what do Irish people do. Oh, they support Scottish soccer teams and sing songs about getting killed so that some (insert appropriate word) living in the USA can make a fortune.

And to be named after the man who gave us the UNITED Irishmen.


No, the Tones are liked by rabid sectarian bigots, not by republicans.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 23/11/2009 01:29:55    491420

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Tones aren't worth mentioning. They are a joke.

The Dubliners, The Clancy's, Ryans Fancy and The Fury's is where the real quality, fine songs and great musicianship lies. It would be great if thier legacy could be continued in some way.

Luke Kelly singing The Foggy Dew makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck. And From The Plains Of Royal Meath...........

John Sheahans Marino Waltz is a great violin piece that is world reknowned.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 465 - 23/11/2009 10:08:37    491474

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There is a place and a following for every band. Some of the Dubliners stuff was indeed brilliant, and Luke Kelly is a total legend. I've seen both bands over the years and found them both to be enjoyable. Tommy Byrne in his prime had a haunting voice and whilst different to Luke some of his renderings would also make the hair stand on the back of your neck. I accept that the Tones concentration on Ra songs would not be to everyones liking and also in the last few years they are way past their "sell by" date. p.s. I don't normally watch talent shows but there was a traditional singer on last night . A girl from Westmeath I think. Unfortunately for me there was a kids party going on in my gaffe and I couldn't really give it the concentration it deserved. From what little I did hear she sounded absolutely fantastic.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 23/11/2009 11:04:07    491521

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Dubliners by a country mile. Patrque, you speak some rubbish but agree with your sentiments 100% this time.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 23/11/2009 11:29:23    491535

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patrique County: Antrim Posts: 5654 491122 millhouse County: Meath Posts: 177 491074 3-0 for the dubliners so far, but i expect a comeback form the tones when the votes from the nordie jury come in. The "WOlfe Tones" detest Northerners. First met them in "The Castle Vaults Inn" in Salthill in 1974. I was with the Queen's GAA club. As soon as they heard our accents they started, calling us Northern scum, and this a group named after a man who advocated equality for "Protestant, Catholic and Dissenter, so we had to punch and kick the bejabbers out of them, true story. I remember joking in 1994 that the "Tones" would have to disband when the ceasefire was called because Turned out I was right. What really annoyed me was that while they were earning a fortune, and not even good musicians, with crocodile tears about the North, they were living in New York or somewhere. Only those in the North, with no sense of Irish History, and Celtic supporters, like the Tones. I added Celtic supporters because with no trouble in the North the Tones tried to integrate themselves with the Celtic crowd. Luke Kelly, greatest "Folk" singer ever, widely acknowledged as such by everyone. I played folk music all over England, and a fair bit of N.Ireland, and Kelly, and the Dubliners, were legends. They were also musicians, and Barney and John could sit at any session playing melody with maestros. No one in the Tones could even dream about that. The Dubliners were not only a big part in the "Folk" revival but their tunes contributed to the rise of traditional music as well. Many a great banjo player started after listening to Barney. I suppose I am for the Dubliners on this one, just do not mention the others in my hearing. Every Sunday when someone requests something by the tones I launch into my rant. It's not too often we agree Patrique but by god when we do...................

fredrickwood (Roscommon) - Posts: 2871 - 23/11/2009 11:42:09    491551

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love both bands - but the dubliners are streets ahead.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11540 - 23/11/2009 15:06:01    491778

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The Dubliners by a long shot.

Fredthered (Donegal) - Posts: 1144 - 23/11/2009 15:19:36    491794

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dubliners by a hundred country miles.just listened to some of their stuff for the 1st time in about a year,and by god are they a great band.as mentioned before,luke kelly singing the foggy dew is unbelievable.

Mclovinxxx (Cavan) - Posts: 205 - 23/11/2009 15:52:14    491839

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Wolfe tones for the Dutch gold brigade

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 23/11/2009 15:54:34    491842

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Wolf Tones - Band of Rebel Rousing, sectarian bigots made to placate certain people. Dubliners - Real band, legends in their time and subsequent times. Kelly and Drew, true Irish Heroes. The Molly McGuires, Drinkers, Fighters, Singers, Liars, Men. Ronnie RIP Luke RIP (Dont forget the Ramblers lads!)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 23/11/2009 15:58:40    491849

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Dubliners any day of the week

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 23/11/2009 16:08:38    491857

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Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
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491849 Wolf Tones - Band of Rebel Rousing, sectarian bigots made to placate certain people.
Dubliners - Real band, legends in their time and subsequent times. Kelly and Drew, true Irish Heroes. The Molly McGuires, Drinkers, Fighters, Singers, Liars, Men.
Ronnie RIP
Luke RIP

(Dont forget the Ramblers lads!)


Whoo be careful there Liam you dont want to be accused of being a West Brit, Patitionist, Revisionist, Transexual, DUP supporting Bigot.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 23/11/2009 16:25:37    491876

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Tones are good craic, but the Dubliners are timeless.

JPM1981 (Kildare) - Posts: 825 - 23/11/2009 17:00:53    491936

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