Congratulations to Naomh Colm Cille from Tyrone who captured the ulster Junior title beating Rasharkin (Antrim) on a scoreline of 4-10 to 2-14.

Given that Tyrone also won the Lory Meagher Cup this year, these successes are a wonderful fillip for hurling in Tyrone and indeed in Ulster.

Let us hope this can be maintained and built on, but again congratulations to ALL hurlers in Tyrone.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 26/10/2009 16:00:00    466578

I'd like to reiterate what Patrique has just said. Well done to all those involved in Tyrone hurling.

Rio Bingo (Tyrone) - Posts: 788 - 26/10/2009 16:28:56    466614

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Patrique any idea when it will start we know the football started in 03

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 26/10/2009 19:35:33    466728

Good to see the weaker hurling counties coming along.

Galway11 (Galway) - Posts: 570 - 26/10/2009 20:56:02    466795

Is there much work being done in Tyrone to promote hurling?

mondred (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 26/10/2009 22:42:10    466925

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trileacman (Tyrone) - Posts: 759 - 26/10/2009 23:41:14    466972

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Trileac is right, there is not a lot of work being done, yet look at the results. Ulster Junior club championions, and Lory Meagher winners, which is some progress.

All they need is a bit of vision from say Club Tyrone, who love glory but could embrace Gaelic games as well. Tyrone of course are not alone in this neglect of hurling, but a few stalwarts are making serious efforts to address the situation.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 27/10/2009 00:16:45    466988

whats the bettin the lads who coached that Tyrone club to Ulster Junior victory ain't actually from Tyrone but from a stronger hurling county,happens all the time a team up in Ulster does well,eg.Nicky English,Dinny Cahill

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 27/10/2009 02:08:23    467014

Trileacman, what you actually mean by that is that there is nothing being done in Trillick to promote hurling. Hurling will always play second fiddle in Tyrone and thats just the way it is. However, there is a dedicated bunch of people within the 5 senior clubs that are working hard to develop our most skilful and traditional game. 5-6 years ago, there were only 3 senior teams, now we have 5. NCC have developed themselves brilliantly from scratch including obtaining their own pitch and the success they have achieved in a short space of time is nothing short of spectacular. Dromore have started underage hurling as have Beragh and to a lesser extent Beragh. Omagh have restarted hurling within the club at U8/10/12 and have participated in blitzes this year. Shamrocks have improved immensley at underage and Killyclogher are developing. Carrickmore have two competitive teams as well as good underage structures and Dungannon are coming back strongly. It is my opinion that every player at underage should be made play both sports. A lot of young players don't develop until they recah 16/17 and at least if they are not getting to play football, they can play hurling and vice versa. This ensures that they are not lost to the GAA due to lack of action. I remember playing in an Ulster minor hurling final and 12 of our panel of 21 were also on our football team. Why have things changed so much now that young lads who consider playing hurling in addition to football are told by u14 coaches that they have to change? Competitiveness is the answer. Coaches are afraid of one of their "star" footballers getting hurt that they ban them from playing hurling!! This is a joke and only ensures that instead of hurling, these lads are playing soccer to fill up their time. Great development of the GAA, I think not

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 27/10/2009 08:12:27    467029

Well said Omaghredhand, there is work going on but its gonna take time. Congrats to Naomh Colmcille, a great achievement both in securing their own field and the Ulster title.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 27/10/2009 11:00:43    467123

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whats the bettin the lads who coached that Tyrone club to Ulster Junior victory ain't actually from Tyrone but from a stronger hurling county,happens all the time a team up in Ulster does well,eg.Nicky English,Dinny Cahill"

I am not sure who coaches NCC and the Tyrone hurling side but bringing in know how from stronger hurling counties is exactly what is needed. Fair play to Dinny Cahill for his efforts with Antrim. Not sure who Nicky was involved with but it is a credit to him as well. These guys obviously love the game because they are certainly not in it for the glory.

John Boss (Tyrone) - Posts: 865 - 27/10/2009 11:56:32    467179

Anyone else watch GAA 2009 last night??? I watched the game between Dunloy and Ballycran first and thought to myself the standard here is SHOCKING! The Ballyhale game was on after it and I couldnt believe the difference between the two games. Not being a hurling man and admittedly knowing very very little about the game, I was in complete disbelief after watching the two games. The two strongest clubs this year in Ulster hurling serving up that dross!!!

Rio Bingo (Tyrone) - Posts: 788 - 27/10/2009 12:16:43    467199

patrique County: Antrim Posts: 5052 466988 mondred County: Wexford Posts: 641 466925 Is there much work being done in Tyrone to promote hurling? Trileac is right, there is not a lot of work being done, yet look at the results. Ulster Junior club championions, and Lory Meagher winners, which is some progress. All they need is a bit of vision from say Club Tyrone, who love glory but could embrace Gaelic games as well. Tyrone of course are not alone in this neglect of hurling, but a few stalwarts are making serious efforts to address the situation. --------------------------------------- My first post was really just written for the sake of it and i apolygise because it is not the full truth. (This is developing into a good thread so i'll change my tune.) I disagree too Patrique, there is an awful lot of work being done, alas just not by many people, i would chance to say Tyrone invest as much of their time to hurling as the stronger ulster counties like Derry, Armagh and Down but it is just done by fewer people so the rewards are lessened. Again there was a needless cheap dig at Club Tyrone there but I have come to expect nothing less of you Patrique. I'll forgive you and put it down to jealousy. (Quite ironic too, as the average Antrim fan fled from following the hurlers to being a football man through anf through in the run up to last years final). Club Tyrone aren't in it for the glory, if they wanted glory they would buy a racehorse or some other fool of a thing. Football rules in Tyrone the same as Hurling does in Kilkenny, however where is "Kilkenny neglect football" by Patrique thread? I dont see you having any cheap digs at them, wonder why? That puts your hatred of Tyrone down to two things, your either a jealous "Tyrone-basher" or a hurling snob. One of the two.

trileacman (Tyrone) - Posts: 759 - 27/10/2009 12:32:51    467228

omaghredhand County: Tyrone Posts: 754 467029 Trileacman, what you actually mean by that is that there is nothing being done in Trillick to promote hurling. Hurling will always play second fiddle in Tyrone and thats just the way it is. However, there is a dedicated bunch of people within the 5 senior clubs that are working hard to develop our most skilful and traditional game. 5-6 years ago, there were only 3 senior teams, now we have 5. NCC have developed themselves brilliantly from scratch including obtaining their own pitch and the success they have achieved in a short space of time is nothing short of spectacular. Dromore have started underage hurling as have Beragh and to a lesser extent Beragh. Omagh have restarted hurling within the club at U8/10/12 and have participated in blitzes this year. Shamrocks have improved immensley at underage and Killyclogher are developing. Carrickmore have two competitive teams as well as good underage structures and Dungannon are coming back strongly. It is my opinion that every player at underage should be made play both sports. A lot of young players don't develop until they recah 16/17 and at least if they are not getting to play football, they can play hurling and vice versa. This ensures that they are not lost to the GAA due to lack of action. I remember playing in an Ulster minor hurling final and 12 of our panel of 21 were also on our football team. Why have things changed so much now that young lads who consider playing hurling in addition to football are told by u14 coaches that they have to change? Competitiveness is the answer. Coaches are afraid of one of their "star" footballers getting hurt that they ban them from playing hurling!! This is a joke and only ensures that instead of hurling, these lads are playing soccer to fill up their time. Great development of the GAA, I think not -------------------------------- I agree with goodfella, Well said ORH. My first post was a bit stupid and misleading, I wouldn't say wrong but i meant that in Tyrone there is not a groundswell of support, just alot of effort by some fantastic Gaels. I agree to about the Omagh and Killyclogher thing too. There's a big future for hurling in the towns and it needs to be exploited. Omagh have huge numbers underage at U-10, U-12's but how many actually make it too minor , U-21 level? Compare the no. of children raised in the Omagh parish to the no. of footballers it would habe at minor level and its a tiny turnover when compared with Dromore, Carrickmore or even Trillick i'd say. Hurling offers a huge chance for a greater involvment in the omagh club and it could change from having 30 lads involved in the club up to minor level to 60 with a hurling team, the same goes for Killyclogher. Your criticism of the coaches is smack on too, but because of our success at senior level in recent years too often the games become all about success and not development. Development of players, of grounds, of clubs, of numbers. These are vital and too many coaches are overlooking them for a short term gain.

trileacman (Tyrone) - Posts: 759 - 27/10/2009 12:43:51    467247

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467014 whats the bettin the lads who coached that Tyrone club to Ulster Junior victory ain't actually from Tyrone but from a stronger hurling county,happens all the time a team up in Ulster does well,eg.Nicky English,Dinny Cahill

The boys who coached Naomh Colmcille are to the best of my knowledge from the parish. What odds where the coach is from in any case it doesn't in one bit diminish their achievements. Again well done lads

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 27/10/2009 12:45:16    467250

Maith an Fear Trileac, it would appear that you have awoke from your slumber and stepped up to the plate and defended your county from the bold Patrique. Good points well made mo chara

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 27/10/2009 13:06:16    467278

"Duffy89
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whats the bettin the lads who coached that Tyrone club to Ulster Junior victory ain't actually from Tyrone but from a stronger hurling county,happens all the time a team up in Ulster does well,eg.Nicky English,Dinny Cahill"

Strangely enough NCC has never had an outside coach from one of the stronger counties. They're coached by Coalisland man "Frankie Nixon" who is football by nature, but with a great understanding of team sport he was able to extrapolate the best from a talent bunch of lads. Well done Frankie and NCC.

Cillies (Tyrone) - Posts: 9 - 27/10/2009 13:18:34    467290

Well done Tyrone. You won't get the chance to stop our 5 in a row bid but maybe our 6 in a row if you are allowed to enter Liam.

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 27/10/2009 14:37:48    467396

I stand corrected lad's,fair play to them if it was a Coalisland man,and I also mean't to say Justin McCarthy,not Nicky English

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 27/10/2009 15:09:34    467443

thanks for all the congrats lads. as a player on the NCC team that won the ulster championshiop it means alot. also its hard to believe that our manager Frankie Nixion never played hurling. he is from coalisland and a great manager. he has won minor football titles and leagues with coalisland fianna. looking forward to all ireland semi. NCC abu

beagball (Tyrone) - Posts: 44 - 27/10/2009 16:09:27    467525