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Was talking to an Argentinian guy today about GAA.

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gaaman321 County: Kildare Posts: 9 423191 bannerboy- did you explain to him that hurling is a far more difficult and more skilful sport to play than gaelic football...any decent athlete beit soccer rugby even athletics will envariably make a decent footballer thats the reason why its "more popular" Check your history.........that's why some counties do not play it to it's full potential..........most of Connaght cut down any trees that could be used to make hurey's, people were poor and would have had to by them.......... Gaelic Football is a bit cheaper to play.........I hate people that knock GAA sports, I've no Hurling club near me but I'd never disrespect hurling as a sport because of this.

Cranky360 (Mayo) - Posts: 834 - 11/09/2009 15:38:58    423287

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I had a steak from Argentina yesterday. It was very nice and did not bring shame to the animal from whence it came.

RMDrive (Donegal) - Posts: 2202 - 11/09/2009 15:40:43    423293

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yes redhot its called st patricks hurling club

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 11/09/2009 15:58:37    423325

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Pato Shea

stranmillis29 (Antrim) - Posts: 788 - 11/09/2009 16:06:37    423330

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when irish peple had to emigrate most went to the uk usa canada australia and new zealand all english speaking next in line was argentina thousands of irish went there

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 11/09/2009 16:21:11    423350

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gaaman just because hurling is hard doesnt mean you shouldnt play it, your attitude is similar to a lot of young people that aren't from traditional hurling counties

premierman21 (Tipperary) - Posts: 429 - 11/09/2009 16:29:02    423370

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actually i do play it at a decent level by the way

gaaman321 (Kildare) - Posts: 25 - 11/09/2009 16:40:53    423393

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i agree with what your saying though, in my county there are always big numbers of young lads out hurling, most lads i would be mates with hurled til feile or so then they seem to just lose interest for one reason or another

gaaman321 (Kildare) - Posts: 25 - 11/09/2009 16:43:36    423398

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The way the Argentina soccer team is going at the minute they will have plenty of time to play 'pato' in the summer! Shame about the Falklands!

Ed (UK) - Posts: 156 - 11/09/2009 18:06:52    423507

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BREFFNI

Thats who I meant

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 11/09/2009 18:33:24    423525

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Thats rich gaaman ur from kildare and kildare cant playfootball or hurling

THE EXTRAMAN (Donegal) - Posts: 554 - 11/09/2009 19:06:57    423574

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Bannerboy you're easily stumped !

Hurling hasn't spread more because the traditional strong counties namely Kilkenny, Cork (and to a lesser extent Tipperary whose tradition is much longer ago) don't really want to spread it to other counties. THese counties would lover to carve up all the All-Irelands between themselves.

The last thing they want is other counties reigning on their parade, and let's face it, they still look down on the likes of Clare & Offaly who made breakthroughs in the '80's and '90's.

And we know that in places like Offaly and Laois Galway, the hurling is limited to certain areas in those counties adjacent to each other.

So it is - until the strong hurling counties get serious about spreading the gospel, it ain't gonna improve any time soon - and that's just the way they want it !

PearseBro (Monaghan) - Posts: 459 - 11/09/2009 21:11:39    423661

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This is typical snobbery from hurling people who knock football. I get it in Tipperary and other hurling counties, yet I have never heard anyone fro Kerry or Mayo or other "football counties" knocking hurling. Most of these hurling snobs have no apprieciation of the skill of kicking a ball acurately at speed or the massive stamina levels required and yet ooh and ahh at Rugby players running into each other. Gaelic football doesn't have the amazing history or skill of hurling but I can't stand those who says it's just a made-up mosh of rugby and soccer. It has been played here for hundreds of years and developed from the same medieval football games as it's ugly sister, Rugby. It is one of our national games.

And oh yeah, what about Handball?

As for Pato alittle research suggests it isn't that wide spread. It is Argentinas national game but is played mainly at weekend fairs and Rodeos. To me it sounds like a game for Argentine rednecks.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 11/09/2009 22:06:59    423708

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11/09/2009 21:11:39
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423661 Bannerboy you're easily stumped !

Hurling hasn't spread more because the traditional strong counties namely Kilkenny, Cork (and to a lesser extent Tipperary whose tradition is much longer ago) don't really want to spread it to other counties. THese counties would lover to carve up all the All-Irelands between themselves.

So the Kilkenny hurlers working with Donegal are doing what?
And I know the Cork and Tipp hurlers are working with another county.
Andy Comerford managing Kildare.
Why do clubs from Kilkenny host underage clubs from all over ireland in matches /competitions and I know Cork do as well and I assume Tipp do.
I remember the under age trips up to Belfast.

I could go on. If you knew anything about hurling you'd know how many inter county hurlers help the lesser counties whether it be under age or seniors.

Why did Kilkenny vote to bring Galway and Antrim into Leinster. Was going to help those counties and make Kilkenny's challenge in leinster more difficult.

Anyway, back to Pato, anyone know who won the All-Argentina final? And do the Falklands enter a team?

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 12/09/2009 11:43:46    423897

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ignorant extraman-sorry ye got knocked out of ulster championship in the first round by antrim(a hurling county) n got hammered by cork..and eh hurling ye were beaten by tyrone in the lory meaghe...a little rich coming from you

gaaman321 (Kildare) - Posts: 25 - 12/09/2009 14:21:16    423984

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Think this Argentinian guy was telling a few porky pies about the popularity of Pato in Argentina.

Lebowski (Meath) - Posts: 363 - 12/09/2009 15:00:48    423998

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"Anyway, back to Pato, anyone know who won the All-Argentina final? And do the Falklands enter a team?"

Puddesthecat, the Falklands have been successful recently after many years in the doldrums. However the boys from Rosario and Buenes Aries don't like their physical approach and have accused them of playing "puke Pato".

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 12/09/2009 15:23:32    424002

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Its hard to beat a bit of pato on a bit of bread.

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 12/09/2009 16:21:49    424024

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hurlings a foreign sport up here, mind you i wouldnt blame you for thinkin football was aswell

rexbanner10 (Cavan) - Posts: 396 - 12/09/2009 17:13:10    424045

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The myth of Hurling:
In Ireland we imagine that hurling is an ancient sport based on ancient traditions based on what exactly?
A legend of a boy warrior Setanta whacking a sliothair down an Irish wolfhounds throat?
No thats the myth!

We imagine it to be more Irish bcasue the Normans took it up and decided that it was the most Irish thing that could do, ever hear the phrase, " The Normans became more Irish than the Irish themselves?" Becasue they took up traditions and pastimes that THEY PERCIVED to be native Irish and hurling was one of them. You only have to look at the areas where hurling is played as opposed to football and they are area where the Normans settled, no better example is in Ulster, the Glens of Antrim and the ards peninsula. Where is the capital of hurling, the ancient Norman capital Kilkenny.

Football has always been played in some form ever hear of cead as well as hurling, the only thing is that hurling probably has traceable rules back to the Normans, whereas football was played by the lawless natives who made up their rules as they went along, besides must of th ancient Irish (brehon) culture got strangled by Norman and later English culture so it is hard to trace the routes back this far.

What I am trying to say is hurling and football both have ancient routes but hurling has no right to claim itself as more Irish becasue a bunch of foreigners 800years ago decided that was the case.

omaghjoe (Tyrone) - Posts: 1191 - 12/09/2009 17:25:20    424051

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