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The story/myth about the red hand goes back to ancient times,long before eoghain rua or any other gaelic chieftain that we know of.When Ireland was being discovered by the outside world,two milesian princes were racing to claim the land first.they agreed that first to touch the shore would be the rightful claimant.The O'Neill ancestor lagging behind in the boat race decided to cut of his hand,throw it shore bound,and claim the land by being the first to 'touch' the shore.The red hand has since been a symbol of the O'Neill family and came to represent Tir Eoghain,land of Eoghain,and Ulster in general ever since as the O'Neills based mostly in Tir Eoghain were the ruling family in the province up until the fall of the old gaelic order which went into terminal decline after the "Flight of The Earls".Eoghain Rua did try to re-establish gaelic rule afterwards but alas did not succeed.Tir Eoghain is named after one of the sons of 'Niall of the Nine Hostages'. And 'Tir Conail' was named after his brother.This is todays Dun na gall/Donegal. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 05/07/2009 17:56:58 332785 Link 0 |
Here's what I think: Galway- A hooker (of the boat type) in the Spanish Arch. Leitrim- Glencar Waterfall, an obvious map of Leitrim. Not sure about the cross but the violin obviously means trad. Mayo- Croagh Patrick's church at the top half, Grace O'Malley's ship in the bottom half. Roscommon- The crown is for the O'Connors, ancient kings of Connacht. The sheep is for the sheepstealers, Rossies nickname. Sligo- Benbulben, the book signifies Yeats and the shell comes from Sligeach which means shelly place. Clare- I'm stumped Cork- The Tower (forgive me, it's name I don't know) and Cobh maybe?? Kerry- Round Tower at Ardfert, mountains in the background. Limerick- Treaty stone, Golden Vale, King John's Castle Tipperary- Rock of Cashel Waterford- Dunno where the round tower is. The ship for the Normans?? Carlow- Dunno Dublin- Dublin Castle and Viking ship. Dublin founded by vikings. Kildare- St. Brigid's cross, she had a church in Kildare Kilkenny- Two bucks wit hurls. Simple enuf lol Laois- The rock of Dunamase is the only thing i know Longford- St. Mel's Cathedral and a county map Louth- Boyne bridge and St. Brigid's cross Meath- Newgrange, Tara Brooch, Boyne and king for the Hill of Tara. Offaly- stumped Westmeath- bridge over the Shannon, swans of Lir on Lough Derravaragh. Dunno what the church is. Wexford- 1798 rebel with pike under Vinegar Hill Wicklow- Glendalough, sugarloaf and giant W in case anyone forgets what county it is. Antrim- Carrickfergus castle and the Red Hand are all i know. Armagh- Apple tree. Dunno bout the book Cavan- just the red hand Derry- oak leaf. derry means oak grove Donegal- not sure Down- dunno either Fermanagh- Maguire family crest and the abbey at Devenish Monaghan- again, dunno Tyrone- red hand. Enlighten me please on those i don't know joel (Galway) - Posts: 45 - 05/07/2009 20:51:59 333081 Link 0 |
i didnt realise meath had good players dj27legend (Down) - Posts: 641 - 05/07/2009 21:34:49 333150 Link 0 |
Its all very mickey mouse. The one tangible thing which the normans left us (french by the way) was the county system which we have maintained. For reasons of copyright and money the various county boards have adopted new 'crests'. God only knows what many of them now mean but its a disgrace. Call me a traditionalist but why change. Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 532 - 05/07/2009 21:54:21 333179 Link 0 |
Wexford used to be 3 Vicking long boats on fire which related to a medieval battle whereby Wexford town was taken by the McMurrough Kavanagh clan and the vikings means of escape was destroyed. It now represents the croppy boys at vinegar hill. No problem with that but we are loosing history along the way Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 532 - 05/07/2009 22:02:05 333192 Link 0 |
What does the irish at the bottom of the Wexford crest mean? thats the crest that made me create this fourm! Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 05/07/2009 23:15:14 333270 Link 0 |
Joel: Its the cathedral in Mullingar JuanVeron (Westmeath) - Posts: 1866 - 05/07/2009 23:27:35 333282 Link 0 |
ew1994 (Meath) - Posts: 32 - 05/07/2009 23:48:26 333308 Link 0 |
Exemplar Hiberniae means "an example to Ireland" summerof69 (Cavan) - Posts: 49 - 05/07/2009 23:57:42 333329 Link 0 |
LOUTH-the boyne cable bridge at drogheda.the gateway in to the land of the legends.even though most of the bridge is in co.meath it makes up for the amount of employment that wee county offers to its royal neighbours. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 06/07/2009 00:20:17 333349 Link 0 |
Wexford changed the crest used on its jerseys etc. some years ago because the original crest, the three viking boats, is the crest of Wexford Town, and they wanted a new crest more representative of the whole county. A new design featuring Hook Lighthouse (in the very south of the county), and the emblem of Gorey (in the very north of the county), and some pikes with the Latin motto "Exemplar Hiberniae" was introduced. nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 06/07/2009 09:25:55 333450 Link 0 |
i only found out at the weekend that Laois was formerly known as "Queens County" interesting indeed. johnjoseph (Derry) - Posts: 158 - 06/07/2009 09:45:27 333479 Link 0 |
Joel, the book signifies the battle of books in drumcliffe, that was its meaning on the old crest so I presume its the same on this, its to do with St Columcille. The Land of Hearts Desire is a tribute by WB Yeats about Sligo. All mentioned in my earlier post. Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1837 - 06/07/2009 09:49:12 333482 Link 0 |
Banner-boy the Clare crest may make reference to Brian Boru if its to do with war and Kings? Believe he was based in your part of the country and probably was a deadly hurler!! Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 06/07/2009 09:49:53 333483 Link 0 |
Orlaith I think it means 'With the heart and the hand" le croí agus lámh. Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 06/07/2009 10:16:38 333506 Link 0 |
Cavan: beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 06/07/2009 10:33:29 333530 Link 0 |
Breifne:The ancient Gaelic territory. Modern Cavan was once "O Reilly country" and the ancient gaelic kingdom of Breifne is preserved in the name of the home pitch in Cavan and now on its crest.: nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 06/07/2009 14:30:23 334102 Link 0 |
How did that Tyrone lad manage to keep himself afloat long enough to cut off his hand. You would think he would have been in danger of drowning. Fredthered (Donegal) - Posts: 1144 - 06/07/2009 14:43:02 334149 Link 0 |
As far as I know, the undulating green and gold represents Donegal's green hills and golden beaches. The small shield in the middle stands for the ancient kingdom of Inishowen while the cross represents the O'Donnells and Tir Chonaill. It symbolises both parts of the county uniting as one. That's why it's inaccurate to call Donegal Tir Chonaill in Irish, especially in football. Dun na nGall represents the entire county Naomh Ultan Abú (Donegal) - Posts: 298 - 06/07/2009 17:57:37 334613 Link 0 |
Ollie I think u'll find that ALL of the bridge is in Meath & was put there by MEATH county councel. Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 06/07/2009 22:05:34 334940 Link 0 |