corkcelt County: Cork Posts: 716 Dont give him your senses your above this.it makes me wonder sometimes how some of these threads get through.I think they just try to draw the real celts out.I spent many a day following Celtic found them to be best ever,remember going to a pub in the gorbals and the people couldnt do enough for us.As for hating the English very childish.

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 17/06/2009 10:35:04    314412

think of all the gear they consume every year, probably keeping half the sewing machines in china going round the clock

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/06/2009 13:43:45    314686

I have supported Celtic since childhood due to their Irish connections (which nobody can deny). I do not hate the brits although I do hate the fact that they still occupy part of our country.
I am a republican but I do find it sickening that some people think that by supporting Celtic it somehow makes you more Republican. The lads that go around with Eire32 or Sands81 on their jerseys particularly annoy me. I have long said that sport and politics should be kept seperate.
However having said that I do hate Rangers mainly due to the sectarian chanting and poisonous attitude of the majority of their supporters.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 17/06/2009 14:32:51    314743

horse what relevance has that comment to Celtic supporters in particular, as distinct from any other set of football supporters or indeed the fashion industry in general.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 17/06/2009 14:38:42    314753

Sheperd
u said "However having said that I do hate Rangers mainly due to the sectarian chanting and poisonous attitude of the majority of their supporters"

Celtic fans are JUST as sectarian, just as hate filled and just as ignorant, except in the Celtic Case its in favour of your beliefs not against it so you cant see that. Celtic and Rangers are 2 sides of one sectarian coin. Ever listen to the words of Boys of the old Brigade....tell me how thats less inflammatory than " the famines over, why dont you go home" ???

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 17/06/2009 14:59:03    314791

corkcelt
County: Cork
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314753 horse what relevance has that comment to Celtic supporters in particular, as distinct from any other set of football supporters or indeed the fashion industry in general

none whatsoever, but no other sets of football supports are mentioned in the thread title so i kept it that way, i reckon the Man U crew keep the other half of the machines going, i'm being positive about the economic activities they generate, also wondering where the instigator of the thread has gone, why wont he answer my defence of the Bhoys.

Said Phillip to Lizzie there's only one way,
I've known of their secret for many a day,
To keep the Celts down you will have to deport,
The whole Fenian army that gives them support.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/06/2009 15:04:13    314805

The Boys of the old Brigade which by the way is banned from being sang at Parkhead is about a veteran of the Easter Rising and War of Independance nostalgically telling his son about his old friends and comrades. It does not mention anything about killing anybody. The Famine is over which by the way is still sung in Ibrox contains some really awful stuff. I don't think there is any doubt as to which song is more offensive.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 17/06/2009 15:19:10    314827

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However having said that I do hate Rangers mainly due to the sectarian chanting and poisonous attitude of the majority of their supporters.

Hate is Bad for the hater

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/06/2009 15:19:28    314828

Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
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314791 Sheperd
u said "However having said that I do hate Rangers mainly due to the sectarian chanting and poisonous attitude of the majority of their supporters"

Celtic fans are JUST as sectarian, just as hate filled and just as ignorant, except in the Celtic Case its in favour of your beliefs not against it so you cant see that. Celtic and Rangers are 2 sides of one sectarian coin. Ever listen to the words of Boys of the old Brigade....tell me how thats less inflammatory than " the famines over, why dont you go home" ???

Liam, all available evidence suggests that you are wrong on this count. Celtic fans hate Rangers fans. Rangers fans hate Celtic fans and Irish people.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12291 - 17/06/2009 15:40:21    314856

The worst thing is seeing a kid whose under 3 dressed up in a rangers or celtic kit. That kid doesnt have a clue that to so many people those shirts are a symbol of hate. Its unfair on the kid. hibs and hearts in scotland are nearly as bad. Scottish football would be a small league without sectarianism. It thrives on it.

Up The Duff (Down) - Posts: 98 - 17/06/2009 16:02:42    314897

Liam I have tried to respond but my messages aren't getting through so I would suggest that you google the lyrics of both these songs and then tell me which is more offensive.
Just so as you know the background to the ''Boys of the old Brigade''it is a song about a veteran of the 1916 rising and the war of independance nostalgically telling his son about his old comrades.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 17/06/2009 16:47:47    314962

on a different thread you's were all giving out about, you shouldnt be following celtic because of sectarianism, politics etc etc. but then on this thread the first message says he has no problem with people in the 6 countys following celtic, which implys because if you wear a celtic jersey in the north it represents nationalism and republicanism. so basically its ok to support celtic in the north as it shows which side you take and it really isnt about the football, but the politics. its unbelievable how many threads on this page are littered with west brits.

the facts remain celtic represent the irish nationalist cause as a whole no matter what man u or liverpool fans living in ireland argue. just because united and liverpool etc dont isnt a good enough reason to get defensive about it and attac celtic or their supporers which is a very common thing now adays

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4122 - 17/06/2009 17:56:49    315071

From hills and farms, the call to arms was heard by one and all, and from the glen came brave young men to answer Irelands call, twas long ago we faced the foe The Old Brigade and me, and side by side they fought and died that Ireland might be free.
Where are the men who stood with me, when history was made O Gra mo chroi I long to see The Boy's of the Old Brigade.

What is offensive about that or was it offensive for those young lads to take on the British Empire and win us our freedom. We owe those lads our freedom and I for one will never forget them. Our history was handed down to us by the ballad and because of 800 years of occupation many of the Ballads are about wars, battles and martyrs don't blame the Irish for this it wasn't us that did the occupying.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 17/06/2009 18:42:15    315115

liam you no nothing at all about celtic with a stupid rant like that , lads could be doing a lot worse than supporting soccer teams

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 17/06/2009 19:27:51    315140

boys of the old brigade is a brilliant song

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4122 - 17/06/2009 19:29:05    315142

Why is it banned at parkhead??

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/06/2009 20:56:51    315222

Not sure that that song in particular is banned but basically Celtic Board asked fans to refrain from singing "Rebel" songs in Parkhead to avoid any possible sanctions from the SFA. Rangers have had a few songs banned such as "The Billy Boys" and they were trying to make out that Celtic fans were also singing sectarian songs. It has now been proved in court in Scotland that Irish "Rebel" songs are not sectarian in nature but the Celtic Board still asked the fans to refrain from singing them so as not to be giving the other side a stick to beat us with. Paradoxically one of the official songs that is played over the tannoy's at Celtic Park before a game is "Let the People Sing" That song is basically a protest about the banning of Irish Rebel songs. Strange but true.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 17/06/2009 21:14:48    315249

Dr.Shephard
County: Leitrim
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314962 Liam I have tried to respond but my messages aren't getting through so I would suggest that you google the lyrics of both these songs and then tell me which is more offensive.
Just so as you know the background to the ''Boys of the old Brigade''it is a song about a veteran of the 1916 rising and the war of independance nostalgically telling his son about his old comrades.



As soon as I posted this my previous post appeared on the board heavily edited.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 17/06/2009 21:26:06    315269

Liam, i think its time you made your mind up, your first post detailed how you still think Celtic are a great club, yet every post since you have lambasted the club and its fans, please dont try and say its a separate issue, as the great Jock Stein said "football without fans is nothing". If as you say, you still think Celtic is a great club, why did you start a thread you knew would soon attract every WUM and D4'r on this site?
I grew up in a family of Celtic support, my 2 bhoys are doing the same, we go to the games as often as possible with a more friendlier and jovial support you will ever see at a football game. If you dont happen to believe me ask the people of Paris, Stuttgart, Seville, Barcelona etc etc etc. Faithful through and through!!

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1072 - 18/06/2009 09:11:13    315575

All across this ancient land
Throughout the test of time
It was music that kept their spirits free
Those songs of yours and of mine...

Wests_Awake (Galway) - Posts: 877 - 18/06/2009 14:01:16    315922