Gael 2200,

Who in the club has decided that we are only entering one team??? our 'AGM' is in two weeks time, or was it an 'executive' decision??

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 15/01/2010 19:33:56    534297

moonshine
There are a couple of reasons why I have not joined a club up to now, I have been involved in club administration and coaching for a long number of years and needed a break, for health reasons.

Also the fact that I lived in Ewell Road in Erdington which is within half mile of EGB, which normally would be my first choice, but from what I have seen and heard, it would be a retrograde step.
I also have other connections with Mitchels who if they agree I will join this year.

I think everyone has some ideas to put forward , but need a forum to do so, as not everyone uses Hoganstand.
I would like to see Warwickshire county board set up one, also the league format I suggested or simliar put up on their web site showing all games for the season and the appointed referee for each game.
Each round in the leagues were given week end dates, this was to allow games to be fixed for any day that week, the actual fixture should be out at least fourteen days before game is played.
This would encourage people to use the site for information and leave comment which would be of benefit to all, it would need to be updated every week.

On the games you mention at the end of the year I don't see what the problem is as none of the players who transferred in played, and any player which was not on the first fifteen were eligible to play.
Every player was eligible to play these games.

On the point of Sharkey you can only take someone's word that they did not play. I accept his.
Your own club McDermotts had simliar situation earlier in the year if I recall correctly regarding players in America.

Lett's move on.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 16/01/2010 11:27:17    534508

millbrook,just one last comment on this subject,as far as i am aware there is a rule in the county saying that any player that plays in a senior competion can no longer play at intermediate or junior level in that same year,regardless of him being on the first fifteen.
Fr.Forde is classed as a senior competion,so any player that plays in that competion can no longer play intermediate or junior that year.
As you say about players playing elsewhere,you have to take their word,which is fair enough.
As with Macs we only had one player that travelled to USA,not players as a lot of people said.
On to next season,can Macs do 5 in a row ???

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 17/01/2010 09:50:34    535011

Millbrook,

If you're still living in Erdington you're more than welcome to join our club. We've been called a lot of things in the past, but a 'retrograde step' that's a bit harsh. I for one would have no hesitation nominating you for a committee position as I respect your forward thinking and studious approach.

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 17/01/2010 11:45:23    535057

Moonshine, you say that any player who plays in a senior competition can no longer play at intermediate or junior level. If that is the case if a player plays senior league they can not play intermediate? If that is the case there were alot of clubs in Warwickshire who were guilty of breaking that rule last year including your own. I'm not trying to be smart but trying to get a better grasp of the rules.

Mick83 (Wicklow) - Posts: 67 - 17/01/2010 13:30:40    535110

Che 1959

It wasn't meant derogatory way of EGB, it was of me taking a step backwards or time not being right.
On the surface there would appear to be a power struggle within your club.( this is only my opinion)
If you and I have a problem there are only two people who can sort it out, what I am saying is the only people who can sort out the problems in EGB is the people involved and an outside influence at this time would only muddy the waters.

I suggest you write a letter to your secretary outlining your concerns and anyone else who have similar concerns, then bring it up at your agm.
Demand that letters be read out to the meeting, it then has to be dealt with on the day.
What ever the outcome keep it within house. It is not helpful to your club to see members arguing on here and leaving your club open to ridicule,
Don't give others ammunition to motivate against you.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 17/01/2010 14:11:49    535138

Che1959 I'd have to agree with Millbrook you and egbhardcore coming on here as you do are only embarrassing your club and yourselves. If you care so much about your club what plans are you bringing to your AGM, who are you looking to go onto your committee to provide the forward thinking every club needs?

Moonshine I'd say it'll more likely be Four Master, Barnabus (if they step up) or my own favourites Roger Casements for one rather than Macs for five, your lack of a clean up last year implies regression rather than progression surely?

Lads this forum is meant to discuss Warwickshire in a positive manner not vent personal vendettas or air problems, Che1959 there are plenty of help lines I'm sure will support you but please not here you only let the EGB and Erdington community down with your comments even if you do see yourself as a lone voice of reason in the face of alleged disfunction and madness.

P_O_Neill1917 (Derry) - Posts: 16 - 17/01/2010 14:42:52    535153

Mick83,sorry my mistake. Should have said said that Fr.Forde is classed the same as c`ship football. If a player plays in this competion he can no longer particpate at junior or intermediate level.
Whereas a player that plays senior league can continue to play at intermediate and junior level.

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 17/01/2010 18:54:48    535393

P_O_Neill1917, FM are in a strong position at the moment as a team to challenge Macs for the c`ship. But your suggestion that Barnabus or RC could possibly win county final this year is way off the mark. Barnabus wiil survive in senior league,but c`ship is a different ball game all together. RC need Pat Hoey back in charge if they are to mount any serious challenge this year.
Your suggestion at Macs lack of clean up last year doesnt make any sense,you cant win every game.C`ship was won again,runners up in the league and Fr.Forde final still to be played.Some quality players coming through again this year from the under 21 and under 18 teams who will be pushing for their places on the senior team. Macs will be there or thereabouts again this year.

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 17/01/2010 19:14:09    535411

Again have to agree with moonshine, MACs were head and shoulders above all teams last year in the championship, 6 points winners in the final and FMs could hardly get out of there own half or past the Macs midfield/half back line in the second half.

Nottingham will do well staying in the senior, FMs its all well and good being fit but they are seriously lacking guys who have a bit of football in them, casements shocker of a year hoey should stick to watching refereeing videos as this casements team need some serious new blood, Mitchels need to honest with themselves and stand up to the plate they have plenty of talent but no point taking the easy option in the intermediates, I honestly think if we had of had a bit of luck against Macs in the first round we could have went all the way but we aim to be prepared either first or final round this season.

Any word on the new format/fixture list?

Any teams actually move up to senior?

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 17/01/2010 22:03:28    535575

Gael 2200, you make me laugh.
OK you have to give Macs credit for again winning the championship, and i'm not going to get sucked in to an argument about how dominant they were in the final as anyone who was at the game knows it was close enough.
But i merely wanted to point out your blatant contradiction of yourself, when you say that Macs were 'head and shoulders' above everyone in the championship, and then say that if you'd have had a bit of luck agaist them, you would have beaten them. Classic

Hman (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 19/01/2010 10:04:14    536706

abc...

gimgaa (UK) - Posts: 3 - 19/01/2010 21:07:32    537577

Hman or JJ

FMs entering a junior side yous are getting a bit carried away wasnt so long ago that you were all only junior players.

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 20/01/2010 14:10:51    538015

gael2200, I bet if they do enter a junior team this year they'll field more games than your club did last year at that level, and perhaps if they can't field they will have the decency to let the opposition know. I'd be wary before coming on here criticising others for getting 'carried away'.

james_ohara (UK) - Posts: 33 - 20/01/2010 14:30:29    538032

ahhh James.

FMs and Nottingham so much in common, but share little reality to how things actually are, Nottingham making an assault on the senior league and championship - never going to happen mate - FMs delusion of winning an all Britain because they have at most one junior level (Irish standard) player in there team, when we can boast players of the magnitude of bradley, the foleys, hazza, dougie the list goes on.

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 20/01/2010 17:33:11    538305

ah there you go again Gael2200, you shouldn't be criticising others when you don't have your own house anywhere near in order. don't start going on about the quality of your players when you don't even have the respect to phone clubs to tell them you can't field but make them travel a 120 mile round trip instead. these are the basics mate. you should focus on getting them right first before bragging about the so-called star quality.

By the way, yes Nottingham are senior for 2010.

andquick (UK) - Posts: 60 - 20/01/2010 18:47:38    538393

gael2200, you're brilliant I got to admit it. With all them fantastic players its no wonder you've dominated Warwickshire the last decade, a squad of Galácticos my friend.

james_ohara (UK) - Posts: 33 - 20/01/2010 19:56:39    538493

Gael2200 - Gaelic games has always stood as a symbol of Irish culture, fans sit together with ease (banter always enjoyed), respect between players, final whistle and handshakes all round and in general a common courtesy. To undermine this with your comments shows a lack of respect for our game and I'm sure you are sitting there in your bedroom nodding as another person 'takes the bait' but these guys have made genuine attempts to compete in GAA.

I agree that EGB have some outstanding players in Warwickshire standards but you have won nothing (excusing the Fr Forde) and you need to remember that. The difference is that whilst you's have fallen to underchievement the guys at FM and Notts have worked to build their clubs piece by piece and should be congratulated on their efforts - Not lamblasted for showing desire and commitment. People in glass houses......

On a lighter note (and using the reason for this thread) does anyone know of changes to club management or teams this year, assuming from posts that a lot of AGM's have been held at this stage?

thesilentone (UK) - Posts: 146 - 21/01/2010 09:15:39    538613

Does no-one realise that Gael2200 is not an EGB man, he is merely on here trying to wind people up. Not even a member of our club could be so deluded!

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 21/01/2010 12:14:39    538780

Does anyone know the dates for this years feile?

Mick83 (Wicklow) - Posts: 67 - 21/01/2010 12:45:47    538830