John Mitchel's hurling 1/4 final v Black & Whites in Kilkenny has been postponed till the 23rd because of the weather.

mitchelshurlers (UK) - Posts: 100 - 07/01/2010 17:17:54    527068

I for one would like to complement Millbrook on his forward thinking, although i do feel that the dates of the championships need to be rethought. No problem with playing games in august maybe Father Forde, but Championships are slightly different.

As for the EGB situation anyone is welcome to attend the agm, hopefully our grievances can be sorted in due course and in a proper fashion. You are right that one person cannot hold all the positions at a club, but this can only be avoided if people put themselves forward. Obviously it appears that myself and hardcore as a consequence of the current inclement weather conditions have a little too much time on our hands.

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 07/01/2010 20:50:46    527427

Given the current climate alot of us have had too much time on our hands maybe you could teach us all a lesson Che on being more productive. Agree with you lads one man can't do everything and hopefully our agm won't turn into an 'audience with ...' style event. I doubt the problem has been a lack of individuals looking to get involved but being allowed to is, is this a case of power hungry control elite supported by apathy at the core of egb or a complete lack of structures in the club being manipulated? There are many still asking how the soccer team could have been to go we were the only team winning things but we will return.

egbhardcore (UK) - Posts: 25 - 07/01/2010 21:06:00    527461

I for one hope the soccer team will return as i really enjoyed playing and winning things regularly

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 07/01/2010 21:13:35    527493

che1959
I take your point on the championship dates in August, there are two days one in the middle and the other at the end.
It is possible to swop these around, by moving conclusion of league finals, however I think if you set a date in Jan. / Feb. for fixtures and stick to it, it allows players to organise hollidays around these dates, which I believe is what you are implying.
The last list which I posted to sectretraries is slightly different as it includes Four Masters junior team and Bristol team.
If you want to see it contact your own club sectretrary.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 08/01/2010 08:18:20    527691

Any updates with leagues restructuring etc? Millbrooks suggestions were excellant, the way you keep all the cups but use them within the league format, only query would be around probably st marys to senior and also mitchells having a stronger 2nd string than there first team these issues need to be addressed. As a club we will no longer be submitting 3 teams and are even considering having one team but hopefully have a squad of at least 20 to 25 all battling for a place. nottingham and brendans are two clubs who the squads to cope with senior league and championship.

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 14/01/2010 10:39:11    532547

Gael 2200,

You say that EGB are not entering 1 3rd string this year?? How do you know this??? We agreed this at last years 'AGM' but it still happened!!!

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 14/01/2010 12:02:07    532642

gael 2200

two points you raise.
1
Mitchels second string in the championship were a strong side, partly because the seniors were knocked and this allowed them to concentrate on intermediate championship. Also players away in colleges were available later in the year.
But if you look at their league games, they played eight out of a possible fourteen and finished well down the field. Hopefully this year, teams will fullfil their fixtures, given that Mitchels should be aiming to finish in the top four of league division 2.
The championship will be a different matter as all the same players will be available to them.

2
On St Marys, they were only narrowly beaten in the league and I believe a worst case scenario is, they would contest the latter stages of league division 1reserve play-off's and build from there.
It will take a year for all teams to find a place where they are competitave.
This year all teams are in transition.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 14/01/2010 14:20:22    532809

do you believe these changes will be implementated?

have the teams/county board signed up for this?

would the mitchels not consider entering one team like we are and try and make the senior league as strong as possible?

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 14/01/2010 15:18:55    532887

As Millbrook earlier stated he has sent the proposal to the club secretary's. You'll have to speak to him and see if our club is in favour of the proposal. I for one hope that we would support Millbrook in his efforts, as he has obviously devoted alot of time to his proposal.

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 14/01/2010 15:27:36    532897

gael2200

do you believe these changes will be implementated?

Simple answer is I don't know, I put it forward as a proposal, its now up to the clubs if they feel it will improve things to use their voice.

have the teams/county board signed up for this?

As che pointed out its with all club secretaries.


would the Mitchels not consider entering one team like we are and try and make the senior league as strong as possible?

I am unable to say what Mitchells will do as I'm not a club member, but support them.
From my own point of view I would like to see as many people as possible playing gaelic games and would be disappointed to see them enter just one team as it would mean a lot of players not getting games. They have a number of players transferred in this year and should be able to field two teams easily.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 14/01/2010 17:58:05    533158

gael2200 as regards to mitchels 2nd team being a strong as there first team , i would agree with you , however i would be thinkin that a few of the lads on that inter team would be pushing for places on the their senior team this year, and that should address the problem of their inters being stronger than their seniors.
I think that if they had the best of both teams playing at senior , and possibly with a few new faces coming in the mitchel's would be a really strong contender this season for some siverware.

carracastle (Mayo) - Posts: 34 - 14/01/2010 19:37:21    533299

I think it was a bit of a shame last season as the mitchels had at least 8-9 seniors players playing intermediate, the question is why they were doing this?

But i think everyone in warickshire knows - you need back bone to play seniors - maybe the inters should play in yellow it would suit them more than blue and white.

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 15/01/2010 10:46:09    533592

Millbrook - I dont wish to undermine your proposals which seem reasonable. I'm not sure if the Co.Board have had a chance to review them but I believe they are already organising the fixtures for 2010? If you are not a member of Mitchells I'm just wondering in what capacity you are proposing these changes? That is in no way a snipe or anything but surely the Co.Board must only consider proposals / suggestions put forward by club members

andquick (UK) - Posts: 60 - 15/01/2010 13:07:01    533768

andquick

do you know if the county board are accepting brendans and nottingham as senior teams?

any change to the 3 grading levels?

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 15/01/2010 13:40:26    533808

gael 2200 your talking rubbish, Who are the senior players ? There are only two that played senior the previous year that I am aware of, and one of those played one game. You obviously dont think a lot of Four Masters who only managed to beat Mitchels by two points went on and contested the final. On the day the best team that Mitchells had were playing. They used four subs, who if left off would have played intermediate. Does it not tell you something about all Mitchells players? Their standard is pretty good at the moment which you would expect with more than fifty players. I would expect them to do well in intermediate again this year. think it was a bit of a shame last season as the mitchels had at least 8-9 seniors players playing intermediate, the question is why they were doing this 2009 is over so leave it there. andquick I put it out there as a suggestion in my own capacity as a gaa person, in response to others to a question of improving the fixture chaos. Many of the ideas in gaa came from other sports and have been taken up and used. I had hoped that clubs might take something from it or use it to improve games. County board can take ideas from anywhere they choose but must get agreement from clubs to use them. What ever the final outcome to fixtures, clubs will vote on them regardless of who's idea they were or where they come from. Ultimatly it is the clubs who decide.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 15/01/2010 14:00:59    533827

millbrook

doyle
solider midfielder
mclouglin
graceys
gallagher
the hurlers who we all know are so much superior than the footballers in the county
sharkey

shall i go on?

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 15/01/2010 15:26:59    533942

millbrook,not trying to be clever or anything,but why is it that you are not a john mitchels club member ??? Surely you should join some club with the ideas that you have,they would surely benifit some club in the county. I would have to agree with gael 2200 (not something that i do very often) as regards his comment about senior players playing intermediate football,i dont think he is to far away with his figures. Millbrook,can you explain as why Mitchels played their Fr.Forde semi-final against FM a couple of weeks before xmas, (which is classed as a senior competion) then the following week with 6 or 7 of the same players played St.Barnabus in Mulligan cup final (intermediate competion). As regards Barry Sharkey,heard it from a good source that he played for Western Gaels while in Austrailia. Hope that your idea for fixture list is taken up by the county board.

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 15/01/2010 18:39:00    534247

gael 2200

I would'nt like to wake you up from your dream.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 15/01/2010 18:50:08    534258

Gael 2200 where do you get your information from?
Doyle decided not to play seniot football for personal reasons, the 'soldier midlfield' was away on tour at the time of the senior championchip, McLoughlan as manager of the senior team decided he would serving them better on the sideline. Ciaren Grace played senior championchip and was not involved in intermediates and Matt Grace has never played senior championchip. Tully Gallagher suffered a serious injury and only returned at the last month of the year, as is very clear mitchels had already been knocked out of the championchip so could play intermediate and Sharkey returned from Austrailia where as far as i and the county board know didnt play any football. A couple of the hurlers also decided to play for fitness reasons this year and felt they could not give the necessary committment to the senior team.
Lets face alot of the players in this years intermediates will be pushing for a senior spot and mitchels will be giving there all in the senior championchip next year as they do every year.
Last season is over lets just look forward to 2010 and try and make it the best seaon for Warwickshire and our own clubs instead of moaning about last year on here!

Mick83 (Wicklow) - Posts: 67 - 15/01/2010 19:23:05    534289