Instead of looking and discussing the past, let's look to the future, 2009 is now history.
Leagues, championship and cup games for 2010 should be a priority in all our minds.
Over the next few weeks all clubs will be holding their AGM, this is every club members chance to have an influence in what is the format for 2010.
Put your ideas down on paper, let your club know that at least you are alive and have an interest.
I had a couple of hours over Christmas and put the following forward.
Before Patrick starts quoting Rules & Bye Laws, this is just a discussion proposal where nothing is set in stone. Please feel free to be critical and offer your ideas on what is needed to progress the current state of games.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 28/12/2009 14:28:48    521586

I propose that:

Each club has at least one league game every week, either Div. 1 or 2.
Each team has at least one league game every two weeks.

Division 1 will contain eight teams.

At the end of group games stage the four teams with the lowest points, will form reserve division 1 and play semi-final and final, for reserve cup (ideally Mulligan cup which is an intermediate competition).

The two teams with lowest points play a relegation final, with loser dropping to division 2 for following year.

Division two will have 12 teams.

At the end of group games stage the eight teams with the lowest points, will form reserve division 2 and play quarter, semi-final and final, for reserve cup.

The team topping the table is promoted to division for following year.

This two week cycle allows fixture committee the flexibility to take the following into account:

1. County teams training and games in both football and hurling.
2. To alternate fixtures where dual players are involved.
3. To run off cup games at the same time, as every second week is free.
4. To attempt to give every player interested a game every week.
5. To allow players a period where they can organize summer holidays.
I know Sean McDermotts had a motion passed this year at convention requesting
that no time be allowed for holidays, but if games are fixed as suggested we will
automatically have a period in July/August. For a short break.
6. That all games league, championship and cup are finalised by mid October.
7. That we run a two division league.
8. That senior, intermediate and junior grades are retained for championships.
Fixture committee to grade all teams


I am suggesting that:

The teams in both leagues are based on the results of the current three league format, also the three teams being promoted are based on results over the last year or so i.e.

No.1 St Barnabas won intermediate league.
No.2 St Brendans losing finalist 2009
No.3 St Marys 2008 intermediate champions

There is also another option, if one of the teams suggested object to being promoted, then it would be possible for John Mitchells to enter A and B teams.
As it is being suggested there is little difference between their senior and intermediate teams.
Erin Go Bragh who attempt to field three teams or any other club who feel they have players to compete.
I have seen this option working well on a number of occasions.
From experience I believe you need eight teams at least in Division 1.

RULES

1. All games must be played before next fixture is due in both divisions.

2. If a game cannot go ahead for some reason, re-fixture must be agreed before the game is called off

3. In the event of this not happening, onus is on the team calling off game to agree re-fixture before next game or they lose the points.

4. First named team in fixture to contact appointed referee twenty four hours before game.

5. Referee if unable to officiate, to make alternative arrangements with fixture secretary for replacement.

6. Team unable to fulfill fixture with an away club, to notify traveling club at least four hours before fixed starting time of game.

7. Failure to notify: Where team travels and no game takes place.
Fine of 50 pounds for first offence and thereafter 100 pounds

8. All fines to be collected before clubs can register for following year.

Football championships


Teams to be graded this year by grading committee.

A relegation competition for senior and intermediate where all teams not making it to the final are involved in a play off.

Eventual loser dropping a grade for following year.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 28/12/2009 14:31:58    521587

LEAGUE DIVISION 1


1 FOUR MASTERS
2 SEAN McDERMOTTS
3 ROGER CASEMENTS
4 ERIN GO BRAGH
5 JOHN MITCHELLS
6 ST BARNABAS
7 ST MARYS
8 ST BRENDANS

Senior and Junior league games to be fixed on alternate days, Sat. Sun and mid week.
, Clubs with dual players to be fixed on alternate days, Hurling and Football.

ALLOCATED NUMBRER IS BASED ON POSITION IN LEAGUE AND CHAMPIONSHIP 2009

week ending ROUND 1
21/03/2010
ST MARYS V ST BARNABAS VENUE POINTS REFREE
FOUR MASTERS V JOHN MITCHELLS
SEAN McDERMOTTS V ERIN GO BRAGH
ROGER CASEMENTS V ST BRENDANS

week ending ROUND 2
04/04/2010
ST BARNABAS V JOHN MITCHELLS
ST MARYS V ERIN GO BGAGH
FOUR MASTERS V ROGER CASEMENTS
SEAN McDERMOTTS V ST BRENDANS

week ending ROUND 3
17/04/2010
JOHN MITCHELLS V ERIN GO BGAGH
ST BARNABAS V ROGER CASEMENTS
ST MARYS V SEAN McDERMOTTS
FOUR MASTERS V ST BRENDANS


week ending ROUND 4
02/05/2010
ERIN GO BRAGH V ROGER CASEMENTS
JOHN MITCHELLS V SEAN McDERMOTTS
ST BARNABAS V FOUR MASTERS
ST MARYS V ST BRENDANS

week end ROUND 5
16/05/2010
ROGER CASEMENTS V SEAN McDERMOTTS
ERIN GO BRAGH V FOUR MASTERS
JOHN MITCHELLS V ST MARYS
ST BARNABAS V ST BRENDANS


1st. Round senior football championship
week ending
03/07/2010

week ending ROUND 6
13/06/2010
FOUR MASTERS V SEAN McDERMOTTS
ROGER CASEMENTS V ST MARYS
ERIN GO BRAGH V ST BARNABAS
JOHN MITCHELLS V ST BRENDANS

week ending ROUND 7
27/06/2010
FOUR MASTERS V ST MARYS
SEAN McDERMOTTS V ST BARNABAS
ROGER CASEMENTS V JOHN MITCHELLS
ERIN GO BRAGH V ST BRENDANS

16/08/2010 SEMI-FINAL SENIOR FOOTBALL
Sept 4th SENIOR FOOTBALL FINAL AND RELEGATION FINAL



TEAM WITH MAXIUM POINTS ARE LEAGUE CHAMPIONS


Four teams finishing with lowest points play for reserve league cup (draw knockout
Two teams with lowest points play relegation final, loser is relegated.

Thirty three games were played out of a possible forty, from Warwickshire's web site it would appear that only Four Masters played all their games. Casements,Mitchells and Erin Go Bragh conceding two each and Mac's 1.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 28/12/2009 14:51:10    521590

LEAGUE DIV 2


1 J mitchells
2 R Casements
3 Sons Erin
4 McDermotts
5 Bristol
6 N Padraig
7 Erin g Bragh
8 St Chads
9 O Rahillys
10 The Gaels
11 St Finbars
12 St Brendans

w./e. ROUND 1 w./e. ROUND 2
mar.14th. mar 28th
V VENUE V VENUE
St Brendans V J mitchells J mitchells V N Padraig
R Casements V St Finbars Erin g Bragh V Bristol
Sons Erin V The Gaels St Chads V McDermotts
McDermotts V O Rahillys O Rahillys V Sons Erin
Bristol V St Chads The Gaels V R Casements
N Padraig V Erin g Bragh St Finbars V St Brendans


ROUND 3 ROUND 4
w./e. w./e.
apr. 11th apr.25th
V VENUE V VENUE
St Finbars V J mitchells J mitchells V Bristol
St Brendans V The Gaels N Padraig V McDermotts
Bristol V O Rahillys Erin g Bragh V Sons Erin
Sons Erin V St Chads St Chads V R Casements
McDermotts V Erin g Bragh O Rahillys V St Brendans
The Gaels V N Padraig The Gaels V St Finbars



w./e. ROUND 5 w./e. ROUND 6
may 9th. may 23rd.
V VENUE V VENUE
The Gaels V J mitchells J mitchells V McDermotts
St Finbars V O Rahillys Bristol V Sons Erin
St Brendans V St Chads N Padraig V R Casements
R Casements V Erin g Bragh Erin g Bragh V St Brendans
Sons Erin V N Padraig St Chads V St Finbars
McDermotts V Bristol O Rahillys V The Gaels

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 28/12/2009 14:57:52    521593

w./e. ROUND 7 w./e. ROUND 8
june 6th. june 20th
V VENUE V VENUE
O Rahillys V J mitchells J mitchells V Sons Erin
The Gaels V St Chads McDermotts V R Casements
St Finbars V Erin g Bragh Bristol V St Brendans
St Brendans V N Padraig N Padraig V St Finbars
R Casements V Bristol Erin g Bragh V The Gaels
Sons Erin V McDermotts St Chads V O Rahillys

w./e. ROUND 9 w./e. ROUND 10
june 30th. july 14th
V VENUE V VENUE
St Chads V J mitchells J mitchells V R Casements
O Rahillys V Erin g Bragh Sons Erin V St Brendans
The Gaels V N Padraig McDermotts V St Finbars
St Finbars V Bristol Bristol V The Gaels
St Brendans V McDermotts N Padraig V O Rahillys
R Casements V Sons Erin Erin g Bragh V St Chads


july 3rd/4th Senior football championship round 1

July 9th /10th intermediate and junior football championship round 1

w./e. ROUND 11 w./e. Division 2 reserve cup 1/4 finals
july 21st aug 9th
V VENUE V VENUE
Erin g Bragh V J mitchells V
St Chads V N Padraig V
O Rahillys V Bristol V
The Gaels V McDermotts V
St Finbars V Sons Erin
St Brendans V R Casements


Aug-15 Senior football championship semi-final
Aug 22nd intermediate and junior championship semi-finals
aug 29th Division 2 league reservesemi-final
sept 4th senoir football championship final
sept 12th Intermediate football final
Sep-19 Junior football final

sept 19th Division 2 reserve cup final and division 1 relegation final
Division 2 reserve cup semi finals
Division 2 reserve cup final
aug 29th

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 28/12/2009 14:58:54    521595

file didn't transfer properly.

There are two panels side by side in 5 groups round 1 round 2 then underneath 3&4 down to round 11

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 28/12/2009 15:28:53    521616

Millbrook,

If you can persuade everyone to agree to this, good luck to you.

An all county league set up was floated a few years ago, but ignored.

I would suggest you start lobbying the people that matter immediately.

patrick (UK) - Posts: 52 - 28/12/2009 22:10:25    521763

milbrook....like the looks of it, would certainly make for more competitive games. I really like the suggestion of fining clubs that fail to field/fail to notify the opposition at reasonable notice that they can't field.

james_ohara (UK) - Posts: 33 - 29/12/2009 12:08:18    521866

Patrick, why so negative all the time ???
Are you one of these men that sits on the county board who doesn`t like change ???
Obviously alot of thought has gone into this by Millbrook, and fair play to him. What is it that you disagree with ????
No harm in this format being used for the coming season, and see how it works out. It surely has to be better than the current situation in the county, which is shambolic to say the least.

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 29/12/2009 12:48:37    521882

Moonshine, I don't know if he really is being that negative, perhaps just sceptical? After all, he does say that the suggestion should be put forward to the 'people that matter' as soon as possible.

james_ohara (UK) - Posts: 33 - 29/12/2009 15:28:30    521967

james o`hara & patrick, who are the people that matter ???
In my opinion it would be the lads that are out there playing the football,and their clubs.
In reality as we all know its the people on the county board that matter, they dont want to entertain new ideas.
Millbrook has put together a proposal for them to look & make changes that can allow the county to go forward,or do they just want to continue as they are and be stuck in a rut.

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 29/12/2009 17:28:03    522060

Can I Just point out its John Mitchels. 1 L not 2 L's.

Munsterrugby (UK) - Posts: 3 - 29/12/2009 21:01:01    522162

this is not a spelling competition,

do you have any other suggestions or comments?

There may be mistakes which, I am sure will be pointed out. I have done this on a simple XL file.

If anyopne wants a copy to discuss / improve or use for demonstration at your own AGM, you can email me at: [email protected]

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 30/12/2009 13:17:58    522356

Well done Millbrook for coming up with a realistic solution for the forthcoming season. I see your the only one up to now with any suggestions.

Number_one (UK) - Posts: 6 - 04/01/2010 17:29:27    524152

I like your suggetions Millbrook. As far as i am aware there is a County Board meeting on the 11th. Prior to that the CCC are meeting to discuss possibilities for the coming season which will then be put to the floor. Why not get in touch with some members of the CCC with your proposal. It ,may need tweaking though as FM are looking to start a junior team this year.

Hman (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 04/01/2010 22:35:21    524505

As i said nothing is set in stone.

It's easy in Div 2 to add another team, it just means each team will have one more game.
I intend to print it off tomorrow and post to all club secretaries, also county sec. If anyone would like it emailed my address was included earlier
See if it can be developed further, as a good master fixture plan will need an input from all clubs.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 04/01/2010 23:17:47    524554

Any idea when the Erin Go Bragh AGM is being held?

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 06/01/2010 12:04:10    525635

Che the AGM is at 2pm 31st Jan at the club well that is if we still have it, what position are you running for me n the hardcore will back you. If you want we are meeting at 1pm to march down and get our soccer team back so EGB will at least win something this year.

egbhardcore (UK) - Posts: 25 - 06/01/2010 22:30:06    526373

Cheers Hardcore, i only wanted to know the date and time, there's no need for your bitter ramblings which follow. Come to the meeting and air your grievances in a proper manner.

You ask which position i am going for. I'm not too sure as there are many to choose from, but the one which interests me most is that of Chief Whip!

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 07/01/2010 11:51:38    526641

I might pop along to the EGB AGM alright, sounds like there's going to be some banter there with these two boys.......

Put a lid on it kids. But in all seriousness I hope EGB as a club get your act together and start pushing in the same direction for a change, it will be better for Warickshire and more importantly EGB in the future. I would say that one man cannot hold all the positions as currently happens.

I'm also well impressed with the solution put forward by millbrook, I think it sums up all the thoughts people are having and shows the way forward.

thesilentone (UK) - Posts: 146 - 07/01/2010 16:15:43    526959